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And just how could he undo it everything that took years & years & years to pull off that clintoon finalized by drilling that last nail into the manufacturing's coffins?
All dems & liberals want to save the world & screw this country over, just as much IF not more then the stupid repubs. There is no way to end NAFTA or CRAFTA now unless you can tell us (the USA & it's people) how to do it.
The only way I know of ending this is to creat more jobs here in the USA & I probably could restart my business & hire a few poeple if it wasn't for my taxes.
Just keep shopping at China World & looking for the best imported trash instead of looking for American made items. I always look & most of the times I CAN find American made items, at least the socks I just bought & you know what...... I put the imported ones back, paid 2.00 more & got a few less pairs in their packs but I supported my country's business men & workers. When was the last time you could state that claim? Not only did I do just that but I also wrote the company thanking them for staying in this country.
FOR EVERY LAW THAT IS PASSED, WE LOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF OUR FREEDOM.
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07-31-2008 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by
wobblypops
And just how could he undo it everything that took years & years & years to pull off that clintoon finalized by drilling that last nail into the manufacturing's coffins?
All dems & liberals want to save the world & screw this country over, just as much IF not more then the stupid repubs. There is no way to end NAFTA or CRAFTA now unless you can tell us (the USA & it's people) how to do it.
The only way I know of ending this is to creat more jobs here in the USA & I probably could restart my business & hire a few poeple if it wasn't for my taxes.
Just keep shopping at China World & looking for the best imported trash instead of looking for American made items. I always look & most of the times I CAN find American made items, at least the socks I just bought & you know what...... I put the imported ones back, paid 2.00 more & got a few less pairs in their packs but I supported my country's business men & workers. When was the last time you could state that claim? Not only did I do just that but I also wrote the company thanking them for staying in this country.
Excuse me? Why in the HELL would ANYONE want american jobs to go overseas?
If anything, its the companies with the big bucks that MOVE overseas to save money. I highly doubt the majority of those are democrats.
And I do go out of my way to buy American made stuff. Have you NEVER looked at any of my posts? Go into a few walmart threads and then tell me what It is I do.
As I said, this has been starting for a VERY LONG TIME and if you blame Clinton, then Bush damn well has some blame too. He could have easily put through restrictions or penalties for business's leaving.
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what about some freaking relief for those of us smart enough to NOT get in over our heads in the first place with homes we could not afford, for those of us who are doing without many things that we need like medical insurance so we can pay our freaking bills (since they are going up every time we turn around) and keep what little we do have???
I was so proud to get my electric bill down to $199 (not bad for a home with 6 ppl and someone is always home during the day and night) well they got me there the next bill we used 700 kws less and our bill was still $20 more....where the hell is my relief? Instead we are doing w/out other things so we can take care of our own.
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I've research NAFTA due to debating on here about it. LOL Here is the thing, this program started in the works when Reagan and Bush Sr. was in the white house, then it continued on in the works when Bush Sr. was President. The deadline for it to be signed was after Clinton became President, and he signed it, he supported it and Bush Sr. who was president at the time supported it, also.
The only candidate who did not support NAFTA, that might have had a chance of winning was Perot, (sp?) and he dropped out of the race. Bottom line their all guilty of NAFTA's existence, both parties and Reagan and Bush Sr. and Clinton.
Then they told us we had been moving from an industrialized country that had factory jobs to a service based economy, but if no one has a job who is going to pay for those services, oh yeah the rich, while we serve them, work our butts off for less money and less benefits and the rich are paying less in taxes than ever before and also paying us less for our services. The poor man pays the band while the rich man dances.
Ignorance is bliss but the question is can we afford it?
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Thank you Mesue. I can quite honestly say I dont know a whole lot about this but there is blame to go ALL AROUND for something like this. Same with the gas prices. Both/All/Any politician is to blame.
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Originally Posted by jbbarn
What? No Bush-bashing?
JOLIE ROUGE:
"Now, you had to know it was coming, you just didn't give them enough time...'
Yeah,I definitely asked that with tongue planted firmly in cheek!
BTW everybody, imo Nafta really really stinks!
There's plenty of blame to go around on this fiasco!

Secure our borders;send 'em home!
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Yes, Reagan did start NAFTA & the dems had every opportunity to shut it down but nooooooooooooo they lined up right behind him, supported it, encouraged it & got it passed through. Clintoon signed the papers to make it finalized which he didn't have to do.
I got up late this morning & I don't have enough time to say everything I want to so I will continue this later on.
Have a good day everyone.
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Originally Posted by
wobblypops
Yes, Reagan did start NAFTA & the dems had every opportunity to shut it down but nooooooooooooo they lined up right behind him, supported it, encouraged it & got it passed through. Clintoon signed the papers to make it finalized which he didn't have to do.
I got up late this morning & I don't have enough time to say everything I want to so I will continue this later on.
Have a good day everyone.
So, lemme get this straight. Reagan STARTED it, and Bush Sr. kept it going to the point in which the next President would have to sign it and you blame Clinton?
Let me see if I can count (I think I learned this in elementary) Reagan 1 + Bush Sr. 1 + Bush Dubya = 3 compared to Clinton 1
Now hold on, I want to check my math again. Thats THREE Republican Presidents who started and KEPT IT GOING, compared to the ONE Democratic President who signed it.
Oh yea, you're not completely biased are ya.
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Both Democrats and Republicans supported NAFTA. Yes, Clinton could have NOT signed it in, but why would he? Just like with CAFTA, they all supported it so why would the Prez not sign it?
What people don't realize is that this is all working toward a ONE WORLD ORDER and the next step here in the USA is going to be the American Union which is moving along just fine, considering people want to keep their heads in the sand and the MSM just doesn't find the news worthiness in the story. And guess who will be in charge of all these Unions in the end, yep, the UN...watch and see.
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Originally Posted by
tngirl
What people don't realize is that this is all working toward a ONE WORLD ORDER
and isn't obama just the right prez to carry us on into this? i don't pretend to know a lot about politics but his flag on his plane and his attitude about America speaks volumes... to me alteast.
There is always someone bigger and badder than you!
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Originally Posted by
freeby4me
So, lemme get this straight. Reagan STARTED it, and Bush Sr. kept it going to the point in which the next President would have to sign it and you blame Clinton?
Let me see if I can count (I think I learned this in elementary) Reagan 1 + Bush Sr. 1 + Bush Dubya = 3 compared to Clinton 1
Now hold on, I want to check my math again. Thats THREE Republican Presidents who started and KEPT IT GOING, compared to the ONE Democratic President who signed it.
Oh yea, you're not completely biased are ya.
Let em check that math .... Reagan "started" it ( what does that mean ?? )
Bush Sr. Got it going ....
Clinton SIGNED IT ( instead of saying "wait a minute .. is this really a good idea ?" Are you realy trying to say he was just a helpless pawn ? )
GW Bush came into the picture EIGHT YEARS later... so how does that add up ?
Oh yea, you're not completely biased are ya. ...
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