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    Quote Originally Posted by freeby4me View Post
    You are attacking me for being biased when I was the first person to say something about blame needing to go ALL AROUND. That does not mean ONE SIDE. That means ALL sides. Everyone. Can I make myself anymore clear??
    Except for the math part 3 GOP VS 1 DEM


    Mesue did an excellent post explaining this in a summed up way, http://www.bigbigforums.com/95961801-post15.html
    but because she also said blame needs to go all around she is also incorrect?
    I must have missed this one - could you quote it directly - you realise you are quote the same thread we are currently posting in...


    Its rather ironic that you're accusing me of being biased and "not taking the time to think" when I've made it more than obvious in this thread that this is not a one party issue.
    The only ones this bill truly protects are the finaincial enities that created the situation in the first place and the irresponsible people who chose not to read the contracts they were signing.


    Some people, dont tend to think and it has nothing to do with their political affilitation.
    Nah, all parties and affiliations have equal shares of idiots... I think we can all agree on that.
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    Its beyond hilarious that I'm getting jumped for saying blame should go ALL AROUND.
    Does no one else see this?
    4 Presidents. 1 Democrat, 3 Republican, how is this a "one sided" problem? It doesnt read 4 Republicans or 4 Democrats.

    Oh right, I understand, its because im not Pro-Republican. Im supposed to jump on the "correct" side and not say anything that may involve them to blame. BS.

    So tell me Jolie, what exactly did I do wrong in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolie Rouge View Post
    Except for the math part 3 GOP VS 1 DEM




    I must have missed this one - could you quote it directly - you realise you are quote the same thread we are currently posting in...




    The only ones this bill truly protects are the finaincial enities that created the situation in the first place and the irresponsible people who chose not to read the contracts they were signing.




    Nah, all parties and affiliations have equal shares of idiots... I think we can all agree on that
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    You're disagreeing on exactly what I said.

    Come on Jolie, jump all over this post too. Oh wait, perhaps "hop" is a better word? More politically correct?

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    I am trying to figure out how Reagan got pulled into it. How did he "start Nafta" ?

    Bush Sr. did the ground work

    Clinton signed it - so he gets all the credit if it works out but some of the blame for the way it actually works ?

    GW Bush came into it 8 years after Clinotn signed it into law.... but he is equally culpable for the 8 years worth of damage it caused because he didn't repeal it. What would happen if he did ? Do you think all those jobs are coming back ? I honestly don't know what efffect repealling NAFTA would have at this late date - but he SHOULD be held responsible to try to puch the CAFTA.

    Even when I agree with you, you get mad at me for something...
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    I dont see you agreeing with me.

    If Clinton is at fault for 8 years, then so is Bush. Its not a "gray" area or a 40/60 or anything of the sort. Both politicial affiliations are involved. Both are to blame.

    One other thing, where did I say that he would only get credit if it worked? Or even gave the impression. He wasnt the one who started it.

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    I dont see you agreeing with me.

    If Clinton is at fault for 8 years, then so is Bush. Its not a "gray" area or a 40/60 or anything of the sort. Both politicial affiliations are involved. Both are to blame.

    One other thing, where did I say that he would only get credit if it worked? Or even gave the impression. He wasnt the one who started it.
    But Clinton could have stopped it in its tracks.

    He did not.

    You condemn Bush because he failed to stop it 8 years later ... when we have no idea what - if any - effect that repealing it would have after that long.

    Bush does deserve a big ol slpa upside the head for even considering CAFTA.

    Now... this thread was about the bogus mortgage reform... that mainly protects the lenders and which I have been trying to bring to discussion for almost a year....

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    What im trying to say is I condemn them all. They are all to blame. In something like this, all sides are to blame.

    I already done gone forgot what the main point of this subject was, I got "sidetracked" you could say.

    I give

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeby4me View Post
    What im trying to say is I condemn them all. They are all to blame. In something like this, all sides are to blame.

    I already done gone forgot what the main point of this subject was, I got "sidetracked" you could say.

    I give

    Does this mean I win?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbbarn View Post
    Does this mean I win?
    Just kidding!

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    Here is an article about Reagan's involvement and the fact that it started on his watch. Also a video of Reagan showing support for Nafta. The article tells how NAFTA got started. Enjoy. I don't know why people remember Reagan as a good President, except maybe they recall the hollywood cowboy image. Reagan also was uisng the trickle down economics system, OMG fake cowboy and trickle down economics, GWB is a reincarnation of Reagan.

    http://www.heritage.org/research/tra...naid/EM371.cfm

    Here is a video of a Reagan speech where he shows he supports Nafta.

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/114449...agan_on_nafta/
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbbarn View Post
    Does this mean I win?
    The politicians win.

    WE all lose ...

    Mesue - thanks for the info. I didn't know most all of that....
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