Thread: Change of subject: Gay Marriage

Originally Posted by tngirl

In one way, I don't care what goes on behind someone's bedroom door. But, on the other hand I get tired of things such as this being shoved down my throat and being told I am a bad person because I don't believe in something that is not natural. I don't even base my opinion on scripture, even though that does tell us it is wrong...I just don't need scripture to tell me, to me it is obvious.

Am I perfect? Long way from being so. I just don't think there should be laws to force me to accept things.

The laws should be fair for EVERYONE. And to me, that means anyone can marry and have ins. legal rights etc. I don't think that is forcing anyone to accept. I'm not trying to change how you believe, you still have to the right to believe that it is wrong. I think alot of laws are wrong.

You don't have to BELIEVE in everything someone does, but TOLERATING it seems to be a good choice for me.

Originally Posted by ahippiechic

You don't have to BELIEVE in everything someone does, but TOLERATING it seems to be a good choice for me.

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yep thats how I see it

i know, i said i wasn't going to debate but consider this:
what i feel is most important is highlighted in bold. this affects the greater of society. forget about how it affects YOU personally (not aimed at you hippie, but everyone who says "why do i care what joe blow..[no pun intended] does with joe black in the bedroom?) BUT what it is doing doing our society.



HIV/AIDS and Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM)


Various young men in social setting.The term men who have sex with men (MSM) refers to all men who have sex with other men, regardless of how they identify themselves (gay, bisexual, or heterosexual). In the United States, HIV and AIDS have had a tremendous impact on MSM. Consider these facts:

* AIDS has been diagnosed for more than half a million MSM. Over 300,000 MSM with AIDS have died since the beginning of the epidemic.
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* MSM made up more than two thirds (68&#37 of all men living with HIV in 2005, even though only about 5% to 7% of men in the United States reported having sex with other men. In a 2005 study of 5 large US cities, 46% of African American MSM were HIV-postitive.

Since HIV/AIDS in MSM was first diagnosed 1981, gay and bisexual men have been leaders in dealing with the challenges of the epidemic. Gay organizations and activists, through their work, have contributed greatly to many of the guidelines for prevention, treatment, and the care of people living with HIV/AIDS.

For complex reasons, HIV/AIDS continues to take a high toll on the MSM population. For example, the number of new HIV/AIDS cases among MSM in 2005 was 11% more than the number of cases in 2001. It is unclear whether this increase is due to more testing, which results in more diagnoses, or to an increase in the number of HIV infections. Whatever the reasons, in 2005, MSM still accounted for about 53% of all new HIV/AIDS cases and 71% of cases in male adults and adolescents.

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Last Reviewed: June 28, 2007
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Divisions of HIV/AIDS Prevention
National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD, and TB Prevention

here's the link: it's from the CDC so i'm pretty sure it's legit and accurate. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm

I have to agree with NJean on the tolerance thing. What all are we willing to tolerate? How much is too much before our society as a whole begins to crumble. Kind of like with a telling a little white lie and then having to tell another to cover for that one and then tell another....so on and so on.

Please, don't get me wrong. I am not a homophobe and hate gay people, far from it, and I am NOT bashing homosexuals, just stating an opinion. You can only use the "if it makes you happy" thing so much before there have to be limits.

My limits with the whole "if it makes you happy' thing is that when it begins to hurt others or infringe on the rights of others and I really don't see same sex marriage as doing that.

So why not make bigomy legal?

Originally Posted by freeby4me

Heres a thought to ponder upon, who would you rather have living next to you? Two gay people or a religious family?

I wouldn't care which lived next to me. I have a religious family right next door and gay couples around the corner.

Originally Posted by freeby4me

I would much rather have the gay couple than the religious people.

The gay people dont care what im doing behind my door, though the religious people seem to think they should know. Aint none of their damn business I say!

Well, maybe I should say that I have Christians living next door to me, big difference between Christians and religous people.

Originally Posted by freeby4me

Heres a thought to ponder upon, who would you rather have living next to you? Two gay people or a religious family?

It wouldnt matter to me either way.........too be honest I dont want any neighbors too close no matter who they are lol