Thread: Cmmon sense about Abortion that ALL should agree on.

Originally Posted by DtroitPunk

Its only not considered murder by Majority vote of The supreme court who was desperately trying to PLEASE a MINORITY of people led by some very vocal women who mostly happened to be rabid feminists.

So whats your point? Its legal, no one is committing a crime, your wife isn't out having them... its not any of your business what women do with their bodies. You are entitled to your opinion, which I respect, but just because you believe in something doesn't always make it the "right" way. Maybe for you, but not for everyone and its ignorant to think that everyone should agree with everything someone says.

Originally Posted by DtroitPunk

I know that some of you dont believe in God, but please just consider what it might mean if you are wrong.

Then thats choice to make, not yours.

Originally Posted by DtroitPunk

I wont call people names or abuse them for their choices, I will show you that this is not the conduct of a caring, loving and responsible person. Whether you agree is up to you.

You aren't going to call people names, but you said in the same breath that some are un-caring, un-loving and irresponsible ... thats a man for ya

Anyone know where I put my "Secret Language of Men" dictionary??

A fetus will be a baby given the right environment and time. My 7yo will be a teenager given the right environment and time. But I'm not going to let him drive my car today based on what he will be someday.

Fathers do not get a say in abortion because they are not the ones carrying the fetus. Even if they say they will take full responsibility for it and allow the mother to sever all parental rights and responsibilities she is still the one who has to carry it for 9 months. That's a much bigger ordeal in many cases than some make it sound. She may not have health insurance or may lose her job if it's something she can't do while pregnant. She may end up on bedrest with no income. She could easily end up with a host of problems such as gestational diabetes, preeclampsia, etc that can affect her health and life. Until the man can have the fetus removed from her body to gestate in his he does not have the right to force her to carry it.

As for responsibility, for some the responsible choice is abortion. Not everyone is ready to become a parent or even go through a pregnancy just because they are physically able to conceive. It is not for me to tell someone else that they need to decide what I want them to. No one wakes up and says "Gee, I think I'll go have an abortion today." It's rarely an easy decision. Those who do weigh all their options and conclude that their best choice is abortion do not need anyone else giving their personal input and opinions. Those who easily choose abortion either have a very good reason for it or are the sort who shouldn't be creating a living being in the 1st place.

Originally Posted by DtroitPunk

This is the reason I do tell people the truth as I see it REGARDLESS of the HATE and ABUSE I will receive. Because I am concerned with people making bad choices that they will regret later (if they have any conscience) and possibly going to hell also.

as I see it, I am a big girl and can make my own choices, I don't need someone preaching at me telling me what is and what is not a good choice. I have to say I am not a fan of how you phrase it. What if someone does not regret their choice? They automatically don't have a conscience? and now there's a huge possibility that they are going to hell? I thought if one asked for forgiveness, God would forgive. It's one thing for us all to have opinions it's another to sit there and force your views on others.

you also say

Originally Posted by DtroitPunk

we are forced to see, hear and deal with the consequences of your opinions every day.

what about those of us who are forced to hear and deal w/ all those anit-abortion protesters, some of whom have bombed clinics and killed many innocent people? Or who go around cities driving big trucks w/ abortion pics on the sides of them so all can see... especially little children who don't need to see such images. we get it, you believe abortion is murder and some agree, but then there are those that do not... as it see it, this is a no win situation... everyone has their own opinion that is right for them, and I don't really care for other's opinions to be forced onto me.

Originally Posted by Bahet

A fetus will be a baby given the right environment and time. My 7yo will be a teenager given the right environment and time. But I'm not going to let him drive my car today based on what he will be someday.

Fathers do not get a say in abortion because they are not the ones carrying the fetus. Even if they say they will take full responsibility for it and allow the mother to sever all parental rights and responsibilities she is still the one who has to carry it for 9 months. That's a much bigger ordeal in many cases than some make it sound. She may not have health insurance or may lose her job if it's something she can't do while pregnant. She may end up on bedrest with no income. She could easily end up with a host of problems such as gestational diabetes, preeclampsia, etc that can affect her health and life. Until the man can have the fetus removed from her body to gestate in his he does not have the right to force her to carry it.

As for responsibility, for some the responsible choice is abortion. Not everyone is ready to become a parent or even go through a pregnancy just because they are physically able to conceive. It is not for me to tell someone else that they need to decide what I want the to. No one wakes up and says "Gee, I think I'll go have an abortion today." It's rarely an easy decision. Those who do weigh all their options and conclude that their best choice is abortion do not need anyone else giving their personal input and opinions. Those who easily choose abortion either have a very good reason for it or are the sort who shouldn't be creating a living being in the 1st place.

Thats how I would say it, if I didn't get all riled up while typing LOL

Very well put

Originally Posted by Bahet

A fetus will be a baby given the right environment and time. My 7yo will be a teenager given the right environment and time. But I'm not going to let him drive my car today based on what he will be someday.

Fathers do not get a say in abortion because they are not the ones carrying the fetus. Even if they say they will take full responsibility for it and allow the mother to sever all parental rights and responsibilities she is still the one who has to carry it for 9 months. That's a much bigger ordeal in many cases than some make it sound. She may not have health insurance or may lose her job if it's something she can't do while pregnant. She may end up on bedrest with no income. She could easily end up with a host of problems such as gestational diabetes, preeclampsia, etc that can affect her health and life. Until the man can have the fetus removed from her body to gestate in his he does not have the right to force her to carry it.

As for responsibility, for some the responsible choice is abortion. Not everyone is ready to become a parent or even go through a pregnancy just because they are physically able to conceive. It is not for me to tell someone else that they need to decide what I want them to. No one wakes up and says "Gee, I think I'll go have an abortion today." It's rarely an easy decision. Those who do weigh all their options and conclude that their best choice is abortion do not need anyone else giving their personal input and opinions. Those who easily choose abortion either have a very good reason for it or are the sort who shouldn't be creating a living being in the 1st place.

very well said! ITA