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Freedom Village USA
Does anybody know anything about Freedom Village USA in Lakemont, NY? It's sort of like a Christian boarding school for troubled teens.
I know that they condem Harry Potter but that's about the only thing I can find about them. Has anybody every had any experience with it or no any websites dedicated to people who have gradutated from there? I wanted to find out more about the place from people who have actually been there.
I have a family member who is there right now and within a two weeks period she completely changed...Everything about her...I know I should be happy that she's doing better but just how FAST she's changed and how MUCH she's changed is...well...scary.
Any help would be appreciated.
God loves everyone..including homosexuals.
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12-12-2004 07:48 PM
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Re: Freedom Village USA
I am always leary of "too" Christian and "too"fast changes. My thoughts are with you. Just listen and watch her closely.
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Re: Freedom Village USA
Unless you are looking for a Christian change, I would do some research. Many places that promise a rapid change can be a more damaging experience sometimes. Ask you state board of education for an accrediated school list. (I am not in any way saying that this is not an accredited school). This way, you have a list of other boarding type schools or alternative schools.
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Re: Freedom Village USA
Originally Posted by
Freebeemom
Unless you are looking for a Christian change, I would do some research. Many places that promise a rapid change can be a more damaging experience sometimes. Ask you state board of education for an accrediated school list. (I am not in any way saying that this is not an accredited school). This way, you have a list of other boarding type schools or alternative schools.
Oh this is absolutely NOT an accredited school...I found that out last night as I was doing research on it...But what does that mean? Does that mean she won't be able to graduate high school?
God loves everyone..including homosexuals.
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Last edited by Jaidness; 12-13-2004 at 02:18 PM.
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Re: Freedom Village USA
Make a call to your state board of eduction. You need to find out what will happen if she continues on. This means that it is not sanctiond or recognized by your sbe. I would do some research on the teachers too if I were you!
(background checks, ask if they have them....degrees in teaching etc.) Many christian/cath. schools don't have strict rules on certification.
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Re: Freedom Village USA
This is what I was able to find (may or may not be what you already found):
http://www.freedomvillageusa.com/
http://www.skepticfiles.org/atheist/freevill.htm
http://www.rense.com/general20/unholy.htm (this one looks to be of the conspiracy theory type, but I'll let you read and make your own decisions )
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/held-ag...-mcpherson.htm (has a follow-up article to one of Jaidness's):
Buffalo lawyer Susan Gray, who last week filed the lawsuit on behalf of Patricia Brown, said she has talked with several former residents of the residential religious school who have said they were threatened and coerced by Brothers and staff members whenever they expressed a desire to leave Freedom Village and return to their homes.
Gray said children who leave the village also have trouble transferring school credits from the religious community's nonaccredited academic program and are often unable to fit back into society because they haven't been taught social and economic skills.
Last edited by ckerr4; 12-13-2004 at 06:15 PM.
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Re: Freedom Village USA
Originally Posted by
Jaidness
Most interesting from this last article:
"Freedom Village falls between the cracks of the education system, because they don't have to be licensed by the state," said Gray.
"Tom is almost 19 and he was there nearly four years, but he still needs nearly three years of classes to finish high school... .
Freedom Village was the subject of intense media criticism in the early 1980s, when Brothers was accused of siphoning funds for his personal use from the former Gates Community Chapel, which he and a group of followers founded in 1975.
Former members of the chapel congregation and others -- including graduates of Freedom Village -- have continued throughout the years to accuse Brothers of deceptive fund-raising activities and fraud in his business dealings.
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Re: Freedom Village USA
Thank you both, Ckerr4 and jaidness - both of you gave me stuff that I wasn't able to find on my own.
God loves everyone..including homosexuals.
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The Freedom Village Usa I knew
I will tell you some things I am currently writting a book,so I will not say all.
I was a student their not by choice from march 1991-1993
My Grandmother and aunt sent me their because they wanted to get rid of
Me.But the reason they gave the school was this,because you have to have some trouble related reason,even if it is a lie.
They said I beat my grandmother up and molested my brother,both serious
Lies!
As far as their schooling being truly accredited,I will say this I got a diploma,
From their.
Heres the thing about the "DIPLOMA"When I went to join the Navy,I almost
Didnt get to join,because the US NAVY said they were not a regular accredited school!I still got to join the Navy by luck!I am a retired Navy
Veteran do to disability,and when I went to use my GI BILL for college,I couldnt pass the basic math/english for college.Because the furthest I ever went in there PACES was decimals!So if you want your child to be able to join the military or go to college.Id not suggest FREEDOM VILLAGE!!They supposedly change lives,well they do no teaching on how to make it in the real world!Things like credit reports,job intervues,balancing a check book,getting a drivers licsense,paying bills,dating,you cant look at or talk to
The opposite sex there!!So I give them an F for teaching kids whats important
Making it in this society!!
They also do try and put a control on people from leaving,especially students
Whom the school gets financial aid from for there kid being there"They tell
Them students no your not ready yet,if you leave you will die and go to hell!
As far as finnancially the barricks there Id grade F When I was there in winter time mind you the boys dorm water heater or boiler went out,and we were
Stuck taking cold showers for like a month and a half.
The main people like Fletcher Brothers who used to preach against divorce and remarriage that is till he got divorced and remarried a lady from there then it was ok.He lives in a big house in the middle of the property,with staelite big screened tv,a big swimming pool,pooltable etc!And he drives around a new lincoln towncar every year,he gives his old one to James Comacho,the accountant!And also Fletchers body Darren Baker lives good
To!!!In fact another hypocracy took place do to his wife,it used to be a sin in Fletchers eyes for women to where jeans,well thats till Darren started working their,his wife wore jeans,so Flethcher changed the rule and left the
Girls where jeans,in fact he made like he never saw it as wrong!!
I also from June of 94 till november 1996 worked there,because my grandmother who is sick minded wanted me to go back,I said Id go for a visit
I did,and I gave a STAFF worker a ride somewhere,and he ended up getting a
Paper bag JOSE GUZMAN was his name,and I was tired from driving there we got pulled over because I left him drive,and he was driving all crazy.And the
Bag got searched,it had herouine in it!It took me nine months of going back and forth to court before he admitted that the herouine was his and I had
Nothing to do about it!!So I worked there making $90.00 a week,but they rarely paid there general staff like me,people they thought didnt know what
Was going on!In 1996 I had confronted Darren and Fletcher about these things and then Fletcher said your FIRED,I said fine,"His last words to me
Were "Mike your never going to amount to nothing in your life,and your going
To go to Hell,your really not saved,most of the kids that left to against his will
Hed tell the same thing"Your noy really saved because your leaving here without my blessing and your going to go to hell"
While I was there there was another employee Miguel who was arrested for
Molesting one of the other boy students,there was jose the drugy,There was
Another two staff members that were drunks that I no of.
So there are some truths of FREEDOM VILLAGE USA!
Michael
any more questions feel free to email me at
mbrantner1@tampabay.rr.com
All one more interesting fact they read all incoming and outgoing mail,if it does
Not meet there approval its discarded.They monitor every phone call,if they dont approve of anything thats said they will cut the call off!
And once I left there I had a moped which my parents bought for me I had no way to put it in my station wagon,so someone was supposed to sell it for
Me!!They told me Fletcher confiscated my $500.00 moped and gave it too his
Son Jeremy!!
Also about very rarely ever getting paid!!Once I was Fired they came up with
Over $2500.00 they owed me easily!!So Id say what happens to the money
There is definetly questionable
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Linus, I would be very, very concerned for her. I read the links that were provided and the the most alarming thing I found was this
The link was: http://www.factnet.org/discus/messag...tml?1193361210
It is a message board, and when you look at the top of the forum, the "subject tree" it reads:
FACTNet Message Board » Religious Cults and Sects » Freedom Village / Fletcher Brothers
So people that have either attended there and/or worked there seem to think of it as a "cult". I'd get her the hell out of there and FAST!
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