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So I am confused...they have 2 lives going...the one in the present where things never happened and the plane never crashed.. and then the island life because the plane crashed?
But why??
and why is Locke on the island as 2 people yet not in the present?
I am LOST!!
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02-03-2010 02:03 PM
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SPOILER ALERT !!
Double Your Fun
Recap By Cindy McLennan
Season 6 | Episode 2 | Aired on 2010.02.02
So...I suppose "where were we" is the epitome of a loaded question, and yet... There are (at least) two realities, now. One is taking place in L.A. in 2004. And unless I misunderstood what I saw, I believe this new L.A. reality exists because the Jack Daniels plan worked; when Juliet banged on Jughead with the rock, the bomb detonated, and the island and all its inhabitants from 1977 (right?) sank to the bottom of the sea.
So, everyone who was on Oceanic 815 (Shannon was not) has arrived safe and mostly sound at LA X, but some of them are slightly different. For example, Hurley never has any bad luck, ever, but I'm getting ahead of myself. The other reality is the one with which we are most familiar and in which we're most invested, and it's happening back on Craphole Island, where Juliet is dead; Sayid is dying, and Hurley needs to lead everyone to the Temple, like Jacob's ghost told him.
At LA X, the people have deplaned and are setting about collecting their luggage and going their separate ways, because after all, these are just random strangers who shared a flight. Live alone, or at least not with each other; die at a reasonable age, of less spectacular causes. Not as catchy, is it?
Anyhow, there's a problem with Jin's luggage. He's got assloads of undeclared cash in it, and he's unable to speak a word of English in his own defense. It seems Sun can speak English, but in 2004, Jin is still a domineering asshat who has again gotten on Sun about buttoning up that damned beige cardigan, so when he's taken in by security at customs, Sun's only response to the female security guard who suspects Sun knows everything that has been said is, "No... English." There is also a problem with Jack's biggest and previously ever-present baggage, i.e. his father. Christian's corpse and casket have gone missing, and the funeral is scheduled two hours from now. While trying to suss everything out with the claims department, Jack meets a nice man in a wheelchair (Locke!) who may have lost his knives, but is generous enough to give Jack some perspective: Oceanic didn't lose your father -- just his body. Jack's not only playing catcher; he's pitching, too. He gives Locke his card and tells him that nothing is irreversible (oh boys, if you only knew) and tells him to see him for a complimentary consult.
Never one to accept her fate, Kate cons her Marshal into letting her use the ladies room. He goes inside with her, but lets her close the stall door -- sucker. Inside it, she tries to pick the lock on her cuffs with a pen, but the Marshal doesn't give her enough time, so she has to improvise. Luckily, she's very good at that. She knocks him out, grabs his gun, covers her cuffs and chains with his suit coat, and tells two women who happen upon the scene that he's some random airport bathroom lady-attacker. She makes a quick getaway from the scene, but of course the women report the incident to security, and soon the Marshal has regained consciousness and the chase is on. Kate makes her first narrow escape tonight, aided by an amused stranger (SAWYER!), when she ends up on an elevator with airport security. She makes her second escape when the Marshal spots her on the curb, jumping into a random cab, which is already occupied by a pretty blonde (CLAIRE!). Kate points the Marshal's gun at the driver and tells him to step on it. How far will she go? How far will she get? Is this reality's Claire pregnant? Alas... more questions.
Meanwhile, back on Craphole, there are two stories going on. At Four Toes, Faux-Locke is putting Ben and the rest in their place. It's nice to see Terry O'Quinn in a less pathetic role, but as he and the rest of that group pass by John Locke's corpse on the sand, I can't help but feel sorry for real-island-Locke, and pause to hope that new-reality L.A. Jack can reverse new-reality L.A. Locke's paralysis.
The biggest action on the island revolves around getting Sayid to the Temple. Sawyer refuses to go with them, and asks Miles to stay behind (even though Kate offered) to help him bury Juliet's body. Once Jack, Kate, Hurley, Jin, and a mostly dead Sayid climb in the van and head off to the Temple, Sawyer reveals the real reason he chose Miles; he hears dead people, remember? And Sawyer must know what Juliet wanted to tell him. Miles doesn't think he can tap into her spirit or whatever he does, but he manages to, and the special effects indicate he's not faking his success. When he tells Sawyer, "It worked," Sawyer's all Who's-On-First -- what did Juliet want to tell me? Miles clarifies. Juliet wanted to tell Sawyer, "It worked!" Dun!
The gang gets to the Temple through the hole under the outer wall and a good bit of action that I'll hit in the full recap. The Temple-Others are led by a Japanese man and his lieutenant-translator, who looks like Horace Lite. These new Others are all set to have our old friends killed until Hurley tells them Jacob sent them, and offers up the guitar case Jacob gave him, as proof. In it is a wooden ankh. The Japanese man breaks it open, much to Hurley's horror, and finds a note (from Jacob, I guess), which lieutenant-translator later says contains a warning that they'd best not let anything happen to Sayid. These new Others bring Sayid and crew into the Temple proper, but the healing spring water is not clear. The Japanese man tests the spring's healing property on a self-induced cut and it doesn't work, but Jack says they have to try to save Sayid (who -- shouldn't he be more bloody?) so they take him in the spring-fed pool and DROWN HIM! Die, new Others. Die. Die. Jack tries to resuscitate Sayid to no avail, and is feeling like a bigger failure/murderer than he did even when Juliet croaked, when Sawyer and Miles are dragged in by the new Others, just to rub salt in Jack's wound. Sawyer gets a head injury. Kate tends to him. Jack emos over that, and also refuses to cooperate with the new Others. At some point in there, Hurley reveals that Jacob is dead, too. Anyhow, just when Jack is just about to fight the New Others to the death, Hurley (who has been quite the leader, tonight) calls him off. Everyone turns to see that SAYID IS ALIVE. AGAIN. OR LOOKS LIKE IT. Bad Robot, indeed. I'm starting on the recaps now and will get them out as soon as possible, so keep your eye on the home page. In the meantime, when you get in a cab at LA X, lock the doors; you never know who'll try to hijack your ride.
http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com..._x_part_ii.php
Laissez les bon temps rouler!
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SPOILER ALERT !!
Double Your Pleasure
Recap By Cindy McLennan
Season 6 | Episode 1 | Aired on 2010.02.02
Welcome back everyone, to the first hour of the season premiere of the final season of Lost -- Darlton's final stab at remotely lobotomizing millions of people, each week. I've just watched "LA X, Part I" and I'm writing up this recaplet before I watch "LA X, Part II," so it will all be fresh in my mind; I'm sitting right in front of the wall onto which said mind landed with a splat, so maybe something useful will drip back down into the crater that was once my skull. You ready? Okay!
Jack's on a plane -- not just any plane -- Oceanic flight 815 from Sydney, Australia to Los Angeles, California. He's got the window seat, but the aisle seat is empty, so he talks to his nice row-mate (Rose!) whose husband (Bernard!) is in the loo. The flight attendant (Cindy!) stiffens his drink for him. Rose is (this time) as cool as a cucumber, but Jack gets awfully tense when they hit some turbulence. The plane shakes, rattles and damn near rolls and then... everything is okay! WTF? Don't tell me it worked. Bernard returns to his seat next to his wife. Jack decides he'll take advantage of the plane's lavatory too. While in it, he notices a bloody mark on his neck and seems so bothered by it, he forgets to change his undies. When he returns to his seat, Desmond is sitting in the previously empty aisle seat, brutha. Jack asks if they know one another. Desmond isn't sure, so he introduces himself and they exchange pleasantries. Jack seems disconcerted by the meeting, so he looks out the window, as do we. We see nothing but fluffy white clouds, and then the sound man and camera man start messing with our heads, because we hear the sound of a rapid descent, and we're led down through the clouds, to the ocean, underneath it, past the sunken remains of New Otherton, before stopping in front of the remains of old Four-Toes' foot. And remember, I said sunken remains, so THIS IS ALL UNDER THE WATER. Dun, dun, dun. DUN! Black screen. Title card. Brain shoots out through back of head.
Next, we're treated to a review of the finale moments in last season's finale, "The Incident." The crew tries to save Juliet from the big hole o' magnetism. They can't. Sawyer cries. She cries. They love each other. She bangs the dud hydrogen bomb with a rock. FLASH! White screen.
Nighttime: Kate wakes up in a tree. Her hearing is shot, as if, perhaps, she was deafened by a hydrogen bomb. She climbs down from the tree and finds Miles Straume, who is also hard of hearing. They find Jack lying in the jungle, even though he's on the plane with Bernard and Rose, or possibly under the water with Four Toes' foot. They see a gaping pit in the ground. But it's not from Juliet detonating the bomb. It's from when Des blew up the Swan hatch, which means -- they think -- that the bomb didn't go KABOOM, but does it? Next they run into Sawyer, who kicks Jack in the head and down into the Swan hatch pit, and screams down after Jack that Juliet's dead because he was wrong. Oh yeah, baby. Lost is back. Or nearly so. I don't think Jack's cried yet.
For the rest of the hour, we bounce back and forth between the alternate-reality plane trip (daytime) on September 22, 2004; and nighttime on the island, on whatever post-hatch-explosion date they've landed. They all flashed to wherever and whenever they are now. And? Juliet's not dead. She's in the lower levels of the hatch pit, covered with hatch debris (from when Des made the hatch go splodey). The rest of the time on the island involves the group's efforts (the full group is Jack, Kate, Miles, Sawyer, Juliet, Jin, Hurley, and Sayid) to free Juliet from the Hatch ruins. Okay, Hurley's not helping. He's tending to Sayid who is not helping, because he's still dying from the wounds he got last season. I should mention Hurley is also taking instructions from Jacob, who looks pretty alive, but says he is dead and that Hurley is the only one of them who can see him. Jacob says to get Sayid and the others to the Temple. Sayid will be saved and they'll all be safe if they do.
We also take a trip to the foot of the statue. Inside, Esau's still wearing his Locke Meatsuit, so I'm calling him Faux-Locke for clarity. Faux-Locke snatches a post-homicidal Ben back from the brink of catatonia and tells him to bring him Richard. Ben goes outside, neglects to mention that HE KILLED JACOB, and tells Richard that Locke wants to see him inside. Richard finds that curious, given how Locke's frigging corpse is lying on the sand. Finally, Ilana's biggest goon (Bram) says he and his crew are going in, but Ben's leading the way. The guys all go in the foot. I don't see Ilana follow, but my brain function is at an all-time low. Faux-Locke tells them Jacob is dead. Bram and crew start shooting at Faux-Locke. Ben takes cover. Faux-Locke disappears. But soon there's a rattle, rattle, rattle which can only mean one thing. SMOKEY! He wafts in and smites all but Ben, and then disappears. Ben crawls out from his hiding place, and while he's surveying the carnage, Faux-Locke reappears and confirms he and SMOKEY are one when he says, "I'm sorry you had to see me like that." Black screen.
Meanwhile, back at the pit, the gang uses the Dharma Blue VW Bus to drag some debris off of the top of the hatch pit, and poor Juliet, who is buried somewhere beneath. Sawyer climbs down to free her. He finally gets the beams and bikes and whatever else off her and holds her in his arms as he tells her not to worry. She non-sequiturs: "We should get coffee sometime." Sawyer's no Doc, but even he knows that can't be good, so he groans that he's got to get her out of there. She adds, "We can do Dutch." He tries to break through her fog. Finally, Juliet says his name. She asks him to kiss her. He does, and then she says, "I have to tell you something. It's really, really important."
JAMES: "You tell me. Tell me."
JULIET: *dies*
I'm sorry to make light, I love her, and I love them together, but that scene just hit my funny bone. It's like commentary on our relationship with Damon and Carlton, don't you think? Anyhow, James carries Juliet's body out of the very bottom of the pit, to the upper level, where the rest of the gang can see him. Everyone's broken hearted that she's gone. Sawyer shoots bullets at Jack with his eyes. "You did this."
Meanwhile, the plan lands safely in L.A. and everyone disembarks and starts on their own ways. And you know, a lot happened on that plane, but this is a recaplet, dammit. Jack saved Charlie from killing himself, and then Charlie got arrested. Locke got to know Damon Salvatore; Hurley declared himself the luckiest man alive, and Desmond disappeared. I'll cover all that and much, much more in the full recap, but right now, I've got to go watch "LA X, Part II." I'll see you soon.
http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com...a_x_part_i.php
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From what I've read from interviews with the writers/producers...they aren't 'alternate' realities as much as 'parallel' realities. This premise is based on a variety of theories and writings that the writers/producers are using as their inspiration.
One reality is not right or real and the other wrong...they coexist. However, the question is whether one reality can be influenced by happenings in the other. For example, the 'non-crash' reality is now slightly different than what we viewed before in what we can consider the 'crash' reality.
As for the real Locke...he is dead in the 'crash' reality. The man in black (Essau) has taken his physical form but he is NOT Locke as we knew him. However, Locke does live in the 'non-crash' reality, but is still in his wheelchair.
So...will Jacob take on someone else's form? Could it be Sayid? After all, he died and has now risen again. There was a 'baptism' where his old life died and he was 'born again'.
Lots to think about!!!
Never argue with an idiot. It will bring you down to his level and he’ll win because of experience.
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So...will Jacob take on someone else's form? Could it be Sayid? After all, he died and has now risen again. There was a 'baptism' where his old life died and he was 'born again'.
I was thinking of the "baptism/rebirth" elements while watching the show, Jacob = Good Son dressed in white on the beach the first he was introduced, Essau = Bad Son dressed in black on the beach ....
Fun fun fun ....
Laissez les bon temps rouler!
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.** a 4 day work week & sex slaves ~ I say Tyt for PRESIDENT!
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Originally Posted by
Jolie Rouge
I was thinking of the "baptism/rebirth" elements while watching the show, Jacob = Good Son dressed in white on the beach the first he was introduced, Essau = Bad Son dressed in black on the beach ....
Fun fun fun ....
Definitely fun, fun, fun!!!
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Okay...did anyone else's heart break when Sawyer cried last night? I am in love with this man. (Just don't tell my husband...LOL.)
Never argue with an idiot. It will bring you down to his level and he’ll win because of experience.
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Spoiler Alert !!
Kate Does What She Does When She Does
By Cindy McLennan
Season 6 | Episode 3
Aired on 2010.02.09
Island Reality; 2007: Lennon tells Yoko that Sayid is alive, while the Losties tell Sayid that he was dead. Over near the doorway, Sawyer grumbles to Kate. “Of course he's alive. He's an Iraqi torturer who shoots kids; he definitely deserves to live.” But he's not bitter.
Sawyer plans to run away from the Temple. When the crew takes Sayid outside for some air, Jack examines his wound and finds it almost closed. Lennon and Yoko want to talk to Sayid. Jack wants to go with him, but Lennon puts him off -- because what they actually do is hook poor Sayid up to electrodes, shock him, and then brand him with a hot poker. And then they do. Lennon tells Sayid the whole exercise was a test and he passed, and after Sayid leaves the room, we learn that was a lie.
Somewhere in there, Sawyer ends up pulling a gun on the group and escapes. The Templars say it's imperative for him to return, so Kate volunteers to track him. Jin goes with her, but so do two Templars...at least until Kate knocks them out and admits to Jin that she's not bringing Sawyer back; she's joining him. Jin just wants to know where Ajira 316 landed, so he can look for Sun.
Kate doesn't know, and asks him if he thinks the Others care about him, Sun, or any of them. Since she's being so cranky, Jin takes one for the fans. “Who do you care about, Kate?” She gives him a dirty look and wishes him luck.
When Kate finally finds Sawyer in New Otherton, he's digging up the floorboards of the bedroom he once shared with Juliet. He pulls out a shoebox and cries over its contents. At first, he thinks Kate's an intruder. Well, a dangerous intruder. Well, a dangerous intruder he never slept with. But when he realizes it's just her, he walks out, leaving her standing there.
Later, they end up talking down on the dock. Kate reveals she really came back to find Claire, for Aaron's sake and was hoping Sawyer could help her. She apologizes for following him. Sawyer, also takes one for the fans and says, “Which time?”
Kate also apologizes for Juliet's death. She feels responsible for it, because she got Sawyer and Juliet to get off the sub. Sawyer feels he's at fault, because he talked Juliet out of leaving Craphole before that -- and he only did it because he didn't want to be alone. “You understand that, right? But I think some of us are meant to be alone.” He reveals he was going to propose to Juliet and takes out the engagement ring and throws it in the water. When he's done, he tells Kate she can probably make it back to the Temple by nightfall.
After Sawyer walks off, Kate cries and cries. Later, Kate fills her canteen at a spigot attached to one of the cottages. James walks right past her and into his old home, where he closes the door. She caps her canteen, picks up her backpack and heads off. Now let's slideways into...
L.A. Reality; 2004: Kate's just hijacked a cab but Arzt drops his luggage across the road and gets in the cabbie's way. After Arzt moves, Kate makes the cabbie drive off, but the next time they stop, he jumps out of the cab. At first, Kate won't let Claire get out, but eventually, she relents. She keeps all of Claire's things, though, and drives to a chop shop run by Rack (Jeff Kober). He helps her take off her cuffs and gives her a place to change, but when Kate opens Claire's luggage and sees a picture of her with her pregnant belly, and all the cute little baby things Claire packed, Kate seems to almost make a connection to the other reality in which she was one of Aaron's mommies.
She drives back to find Claire waiting for a bus. Kate gives her back all her money and clothing, and then Claire explains she was supposed to be picked up at the airport by the couple who is planning to adopt her baby. Kate offers Claire a ride, and at Claire's request, walks her to the front door. The woman answers and explains that her husband recently left her and she didn't know what to do. Kate hollers at her for letting Claire fly all the way from Australia for nothing, but to no avail. This woman is in no shape to take the baby.
Suddenly, Claire goes into labor. Kate drives her to the hospital, leaving the stolen cab out front. When a doctor doesn't examine Claire soon enough for Kate's liking, Kate goes and tracks him down and brings him in. It's Ethan (Rom) Goodspeed! He'll try to stop the labor but involves taking a lot of drugs and he doesn't want to stick needles in Claire, unnecessarily.
HA! Good one, Show.
Later, the cops come looking for Kate (or Joan -- the alias she used when she signed in Claire) but Claire covers for her newfound friend. Kate thanks her and tells her she should keep her baby. Claire thanks Kate for all her help, and tells her to keep her credit card! Oh, Claire. That was stupid, dear. You need that a lot more than Kate does. Meanwhile, back in the...
Island Reality; Temple; 2007: Lennon and Yoko want Jack to give Sayid some pill, but they won't tell him what's in it, and will only say it's for an infection -- even though Sayid has no fever. I'm assuming they're worried about the same kind of infection that got Danielle Rousseau's crew, years ago. Jack brings the pill to Sayid, but when Sayid says he do anything Jack says because he trusts him, Jack balks and goes back for some one-on-one time with Yoko. When Yoko still won't give him any details about the pill, Jack forces his hand by popping it himself. Yoko gets it out of him, and then admits it was poison.
They think Sayid has been "claimed"; there's a darkness growing in him. Once it reaches his heart, everything Sayid once was will be gone. Jack asks how he can be sure. Yoko says, “Because it happened to your sister.” Speaking of...
Jin is making his way through the jungle. The Templars have recovered from their Kate attack, and they capture him. When one of them (Aldo) wants to kill Jin, he tries to run, but gets his foot stuck in a trap. (Yikes!) Aldo, points his gun at Jin and looks ready to shoot, but someone shoots him, instead. Next, his partner is shot, too. Jin looks up to find his unlikely savior. Is it Kate?
Oh hells, no. It's CLAIRE and she's gone all Rousseau! She drops her gun, brushes her hair from her eyes, squints and... fade to black. Bad Robot!
Laissez les bon temps rouler!
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.** a 4 day work week & sex slaves ~ I say Tyt for PRESIDENT!
Not to be taken internally, literally or seriously ....Suki ebaynni IS THAT BETTER ?
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Not so much a spoiler alert as a recap of Tuesday's show.
Never argue with an idiot. It will bring you down to his level and he’ll win because of experience.
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It is a recap if you got to see the show ... a "spoiler alert" in case you missed it and are waiting to watch it ... I don't want to ruin the suspense for someone
Laissez les bon temps rouler!
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.** a 4 day work week & sex slaves ~ I say Tyt for PRESIDENT!
Not to be taken internally, literally or seriously ....Suki ebaynni IS THAT BETTER ?
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