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"leveling the playing field".....punish the majority to help the few.




Mary’s Obamacare Vote Has Cost 80,000 Their Health Insurance
Posted by: MacAoidh on Monday, November 4, 2013, 21:11

The number we’ve all been waiting for: 80,000 of the 165,000 people who have individual insurance policies will see those policies disappear in January thanks to Obamacare. That’s the toll Mary Landrieu’s deciding vote to bring this monstrosity to pass has taken on this state…
http://www.nola.com/health/index.ssf...h_insuran.html

About 80,000 Louisiana residents will see their health insurance policies canceled in 2014 because they don’t meet new federal health-care standards, the state’s insurance commissioner said Monday.

Jim Donelon said the Department of Insurance collected the information from health insurance providers last week in response to numerous requests for an estimate.

The figure could account for close to half of the 165,000 people in Louisiana who hold individual health insurance plans that they pay for without the help of an employer or the government.

“These people were obviously satisfied with their insurance,” Donelon said, “and I hope that they don’t drop out of the market.”

80,000 out of 165,000 is 48.5 percent. This law has blown away 48.5 percent of the individual insurance market in Louisiana. Those people are now stuck without insurance next year, subject to penalties by the IRS (though according to the law they should not be, since Louisiana didn’t establish a state insurance exchange) for not having insurance and unable to buy insurance, even at higher rates or with larger deductibles than they had before Obama and Mary Landrieu came along, because of the stupid half-billion dollar website they built that doesn’t work.

No, 80,000 is not the 800,000 in New Jersey, the 300,000 in Florida or the 250,000 in California who have lost their policies. But it’s a sizable number. It’s three percent of the state’s registered voters.

You really don’t want to impose this kind of inconvenience, hassle, exposure and extra cost on three percent of the voting public when you’re in the midst of trying to win a neck-and-neck re-election effort. But that’s what Mary has done.

Next up: this time in 2014, just before that election, we’ll find out how many people Landrieu’s deciding vote for Obamacare put out of their employer-sponsored health policies, or lose their jobs as a result.

That number will be larger than 80,000. And it will be fresh in the voters’ minds on Election Day.

http://thehayride.com/2013/11/boom-m....hv5Vzak4.dpuf





This map shows the number of health insurance cancellations across the country.
About 3.7 million people have been forced off their current plans so far.

Forbes Analysis shows how big the lie of lowering our healthcare cost was. Every American ought to be up in arms regarding the false pretenses this was passed with.

11/04/2013 @ 5:00AM 131,416 views

49-State Analysis: Obamacare To Increase Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 41%

Avik Roy Avik Roy, Contributor



http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapoth...ow-to-elderly/

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11/05/2013 Robert Book Robert Book, Contributor
Obamacare Might Not Let You Keep Your Doctor

How many times have we heard, over the last three and a half years, that one of the primary and most popular features of Obamacare is that no one could be denied coverage for a preexisting condition?

The Affordable Care Act does indeed specify, in Section 1201, that “a health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage may not impose any preexisting condition exclusion with respect to such plan or coverage.” In other words, a health plan cannot deny enrollment, or the plan’s benefits, to someone based on that person’s preexisting condition.

However, that is not the same as saying that a plan has to enable a patient to continue the same course of treatment that they started before obtaining coverage in an exchange plan on January 1, 2014.

Key to understanding this distinction is that having “health coverage” is not the same as actually obtaining “health care.” The insurance plan has to take anyone who wants to enroll, regardless of their health status or health history – but they don’t have to provide the same treatments, the same doctors, or the same medications that a patient has been receiving.

For someone in the middle of a cancer treatment, or someone with a chronic condition, this can be extraordinarily distressing, and perhaps dangerous to their health.

Edie Littlefield Sundby writes in the Wall Street Journal that she is on the verge of losing her treatment program for stage-4 gallbladder cancer. Why? Her existing plan doesn’t meet the ACA standards, so it has to be canceled. Her treatment program involves doctors at both the Stanford and UC San Diego medical centers, and the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Texas – but there is no plan in the California exchange that includes both Stanford and UCSD centers in it network, much less M.D. Anderson. In fact, UCSD has joined only one provider network, and it’s a heretofore almost unknown type called an “Exclusive Provider Organization” (EPO). The “exclusive” means that in an EPO, coverage is provided exclusively within the network – there is no out-of-network coverage at, except what uninsured people get at the emergency room.

Despite the President’s repeated promises, there is no way Ms. Sundby can keep all of her current doctors, or her health plan, in the new system. Her preexisting condition doesn’t prevent her from enrolling in any of the new Obamacare exchange plans – but none of those plans actually cover the same treatment she was receiving for her preexisting condition.

Ms. Sundby’s predicament is probably not an isolated case. Abby Goodnough of the New York Times reports that many people are having extreme difficulty finding out whether the plans they are shopping on the exchanges will cover the current doctors or hospitals they go to, or the drugs they take.

The problem will probably turn out to be most severe in New York. New York has set up its own exchange, and all of its plans are EPOs. That means no out-of-network coverage – yet the exchange web site doesn’t provide a list of in-network providers, or a search tool to determine whether particular doctors or hospitals are included. In fact, of the 14 states (plus DC) that run their own exchanges, only four states even claim to have provider search tools. The federal exchange just links to the provider directories of the insurers selling plans on it.

Nancy Pelosi famously said that we had to pass the health care bill to find out what’s in it – now you have to sign up for a health plan before you find out what’s covered.

This is not just a “glitch” – it’s a real problem that will affect actual care for millions of Americans with preexisting conditions. Ms. Sundby has been fighting stage-4 gallbladder cancer for seven years, against horrible odds – the five-year survival rate is 2%. Now, she is fighting to avoid becoming the first Obamacare fatality. She is not likely to get much help from the Obama Administration; as Secretary Sebelius said concerning a different patient, “someone lives and someone dies,” and she seems to regard her job as to remain neutral when the choice is between life and death

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapoth...ing-condition/

Obama Now Lying About Lies…
Posted on 5 November, 2013 by Dylan

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines...ing-about-lies

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Now, if you have or had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law and you really liked that plan, what we said was you can keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law passed. So we wrote into the Affordable Care Act, you’re grandfathered in on that plan. But if the insurance company changes it, then what we’re saying is they’ve got to change it to a higher standard. They’ve got to make it better, they’ve got to improve the quality of the plan they are selling. That’s part of the promise that we made too. That’s why we went out of our way to make sure that the law allowed for grandfathering.

If we had allowed these old plans to be downgraded, or sold to new enrollees once the law had already passed, then we would have broken an even more important promise — making sure Americans gain access to health care that doesn’t leave them one illness away from financial ruin. The bottom line is that we are making the insurance market better for everybody and that’s the right thing to do.

Lying About Lies: Why Credibility Matters to Obama

The president is trying to reinvent the history of his you-can-keep-it promise on health care.
By Ron Fournier

It might not seem possible that President Obama could do more harm to his credibility and the public’s faith in government than misleading Americans about health insurance reform. But he can. The president is now misleading the public about his deception.

In a speech last night to his political team, Obama said:

“Now, if you have or had one of these plans before the Affordable Care Act came into law and you really liked that plan, what we said was you can keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law passed.”

No, no, no, no, no — that’s not what the Obama administration said. What they said was:

“That means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

– President Obama, speech to the American Medical Association, June 15, 2009, during the debate over health insurance reform.

Read the full story at National Journal : http://www.nationaljournal.com/white...obama-20131105

Wasserman Schultz: 'Nothing any Democrat said about Obamacare was not true'

She also thinks that "arguably" the website could work better

The inside of Debbie Wasserman Schultz's mind must be a lot like Disneyland. It stands apart from the rest of the world - a colorful, carefree, fanciful place where imagination has triumphed over the reality in which real people spend the majority of their lives. There's simply no other way to explain the DNC chairwoman's latest claim.

Brace yourself, because Wasserman Schultz's hubris here is simply astonishing.

"There was nothing about what President Obama
- or that I or any other Democrat supporting the Affordable Care Act -
said that was not true."

Yes, that's a real quote. Let's check the record, shall we?

Democrats told us that Obamacare would lower rates and deductibles.

That was not true.

Democrats told us that the signup process would be a few simple clicks on a website.

That was not true.

Democrats told us that snail mail and telephone signups would be just as simple.

That was not true.

Democrats told us that the American people supported the legislation.

That was not true.

Democrats tell us that the American people still support the legislation.

That is still not true.

...and of course, there's the whopper. It is, quite possibly, the single greatest, and most oft-told, bald-faced lie in the history of the White House.

Democrats, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and President Barack Obama told us "If you like your plan, you will be able to keep it. Period."

That was - and is - not true.

Yet, Ms. Schultz has the audacity to appear before her MSNBC allies and claim that no Democrat who supports Obamacare has ever lied about anything?

I often write that Obama and his cronies must have some kind of mental affliction that allows them to easily disassociate themselves from reality. Usually when I do this, I'm at least half-joking. Now however, as the endless array of Obamacare lies unravel before us - and the administration faithful continue to deny the existence of a single falsehood - I'm honestly starting to wonder.

Is it possible that these people really have some sort of clinical, pathological disorder? If not, do they not understand how hopelessly out-of-touch they sound?

Ms. Schultz's complete comments - including the ground-breaking concept that web-based signups could "arguably" be working better - appear below. Seriously. "Arguably?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dLX...layer_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dLX...layer_embedded

Enjoy the insanity, and be sure to "like" Robert Laurie over on Facebook and follow him on Twitter. You'll be glad you did.

http://www.caintv.com/wasserman-schultz-nothing-obam

Back in 2009 Matt Drudge's website made the claim that many American's will lose their coverage under Obamacare, so Obama released this video...how embarrassing for him....and America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=U0XCl6OHgiM

Obamacare pricier for some individual buyers
Attention those with individual insurance policies:
You could pay more for coverage on the Obamacare exchanges.
By Tami Luhby @Luhby October 29, 2013: 4:52 PM ET

Many Americans who now have insurance on the individual market will not be able to keep their policies, as President Obama had promised. That's because the plans don't meet the minimum standards required under the Affordable Care Act, including a $6,350 limit on annual out-of-pocket costs and coverage of mental health, maternity and medication.

These new requirements are forcing many insurers to either add benefits or terminate the policies. The new offerings usually come at higher rates because they have more comprehensive coverage and must be offered to people with pre-existing conditions. Many insurers have been able to keep rates low because they offered catastrophic plans with high deductibles and minimal benefits, and they could cherry pick among applicants to only pick the healthiest ones.

Customers have been getting letters informing them of the changes to or cancellation of their policies, often along with their insurer's offerings for 2014. While it's not uncommon for insurers to change policies from year-to-year, the sticker shock has caused outrage and alarm among some.

Valentina Holroyd of San Ramon, Calif., is very disappointed with her choices on the Obamacare exchange. The Kaiser Permanente plan she's had for the past year is being terminated and the "equivalent" plan for 2014 carries a 29% hike in premiums, plus a host of other cost increases. The retired high-tech saleswoman looked through the policies offered on the exchanges, and the only one comparable in monthly rate would hike her deductible from $1,500 to $5,000. Even worse, her doctor visits, prescriptions and chiropractic appointments would be subject to it, unlike her current plan. "There's nothing comparable to what we're paying now," said Holroyd, 58, who is not eligible for federal subsidies. "We're angry."

Only a handful of existing plans will be grandfathered in since the qualifying criteria is hard to meet: Members have to have been enrolled in the policy before the ACA passed in March 2010, and the plan has to have maintained fairly steady co-pay, deductible and coverage rates until now.

Consider Blue Cross Blue Shield, a major player in the current individual market and the exchanges. Most existing Blue Cross individual plans will be revised or discontinued, said Kim Holland, the trade group's executive director of state affairs. So many of its customers will have to consider new policies.

Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina, for example, expects only about a quarter of customers to stay in grandfathered policies. These folks will retain their current coverage, which may not contain many of the expanded benefits that will be available under Obamacare.

While many customers may receive letters reflecting steep increases in premiums, they won't really know what they'll have to pay until they shop on the exchange. If they make less than $46,000, or $94,200 for a family of four, they will be eligible for a federal subsidy to lower their monthly costs.

In North Carolina, Blue Cross expects 60% of its current policyholders to be eligible for subsidies, along with 66% of new customers. The subsidies will cover about half the premiums, on average, though there is a wide variation, Bruce Allen, the insurer's marketing director, said earlier this year.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/29/news...nce/index.html