Thread: Do you support Obama Care ?

Originally Posted by Jolie Rouge

Still "celebrating" Obamacare ?

In Illinois it is over $500 for an individual plan and the plan has the lowest benefit. Before ACA, It was under $200 per month for a great plan. This is more than the 51% the graph above depicts. I bet it would be 1000% if the plans were actually compared instead of just comparing prices.

Illustrates poverty in America.



http://twitchy.com/2013/10/16/real-g...care-tutorial/

You know how bad Obamacare really is when CBS anchors are calling its website rollout a "complete disaster."

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CBS's Crawford: Launch of ObamaCare Website A 'Complete Disaster'
On Wednesday's CBS This Morning, Jan Crawford repeatedly underlined that the launch of HealthCare.gov has been a fiasco.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew...plete-disaster

Here are the 18 Senators who fought Obamacare:

Coburn, Tom - (R – OK)
Cornyn, John - (R – TX)
Crapo, Mike - (R – ID)
Cruz, Ted - (R – TX)
Enzi, Michael B. - (R – WY)
Grassley, Chuck - (R – IA)
Heller, Dean - (R – NV)
Johnson, Ron - (R – WI)
Lee, Mike - (R – UT)
Paul, Rand - (R – KY)
Risch, James E. - (R – ID)
Roberts, Pat - (R – KS)
Rubio, Marco - (R – FL)
Scott, Tim - (R – SC)
Sessions, Jeff - (R – AL)
Shelby, Richard C. - (R – AL)
Toomey, Patrick J. - (R – PA)
Vitter, David - (R – LA)

Americans Still have Options in the Obamacare Fight
Posted 10.16.13 by Todd Cefaratti

The moderate leaders of the GOP have done it again; after speaking boldly and letting Americans believe that they will actually fight to do what is best for Americans, Republican leaders on Capitol Hill caved to the extortion of the Democrats.

It’s terrible that these turncoats have caved but not, altogether, unsurprising.

Republican leaders have acquiesced to a deal that will end the shutdown and allow for a spending bill that will cost Americans $986 billion and that will fund the government until January 15th, 2014. At which point, if history is any indication, Democrats will call the Republicans “obstructionists” and “anarchists” and the Republican leadership will fold like hot laundry.

The deal also calls for the debt ceiling to be raised to support our out-of-control spending until February 7th, 2014.

However, it is not all doom-and-gloom as we ponder this betrayal of the American people; though the deal does not, in any way, address the rampant fiscal infeasibility of Obamacare nor its disastrous effects on our economy, the deal does mandate that government verify the income of those receiving Obamacare subsidies.

This will save the American taxpayers billions of dollars as the Democrats had previously expected to simply hand out taxpayer-funded subsidies to really anyone.

Yes, the same government that has spent years harassing Tea Party groups, demanding to know everything about the political affiliations of these citizens had intended on running on the honor system when it came to dolling out government subsidies.

Despite this deal doing nothing to address the longterm fiscal problems of government spending, after having struck the deal, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid laughably proclaimed, “The compromise we reached will provide our economy with the stability it desperately needs.”

The deal does, however, save billions in government subsidies and it finally ends the partial government shutdown and spares Americans from further reprisals by our petty commander-in-chief.

The partial government shutdown has affected America, largely, because the Obama Administration has worked tirelessly to inflict punishment upon Americans. While Democrats, to whom a reduction in government is the worst thing imaginable, have continually pretended that the partial government shutdown has been taking a devastating toll on the lives of Americans, the fact remains that the vast majority of the supposed consequences of the shutdown have been manufactured consequences, designed to augment the effects of the shutdown.

It has become obvious that the moderates in the GOP cannot be relied upon to deliver the needed changes for Americans. What we, as citizens, must do now is work to undermine and collapse Obamacare through the use of the free market.

Obamacare provisions allow for self-insurance for companies. While often self-insurance (where the business assumes the healthcare costs of its employees out-of-pocket) is a better deal for larger corporations and companies that can spread out the healthcare obligation risks over a wide range of employees, smaller businesses are getting in on self-insuring as a means to avoid the costly Obamacare mandates.

Further, if more and more businesses self-insure, this begins to drain the Obamacare pool, leaving a larger, disproportionate amount of people in the insurance pool that are higher-risk people who are more likely to require costly healthcare measures. This will drive insurance premiums up and, ultimately, make Obamacare entirely unsustainable.

By relying on the free market, the American people can force Obamacare to collapse under the weight of its flawed business model. If the government won’t stop Obamacare, then Americans will just have to do it.

http://teapartyheadlines.streamshare.com/posts/8025

Roll Call: Only these 18 Republican Senators stood firm and voted against funding Obamacare.

We might as well have 28 empty desks in the Senate Chamber because the Republicans in the Senate voted right along with Harry Reid and the Democrats tonight.

Here’s the roll call of the only 18 Senators who stood strong and voted against the Senate’s “deal.”

• Coburn (R-OK)
• Cornyn (R-TX)
• Crapo (R-ID)
• Cruz (R-TX)
• Enzi (R-WY)
• Grassley (R-IA)
• Heller (R-NV)
• Johnson (R-WI)
• Lee (R-UT)
• Paul (R-KY)
• Risch (R-ID)
• Roberts (R-KS)
• Rubio (R-FL)
• Scott (R-SC)
• Sessions (R-AL)
• Shelby (R-AL)
• Toomey (R-PA)
• Vitter (R-LA)

And here are are the 81 weasels:



They voted to fund Obamacare, increase our debt, and provide special exemptions for themselves. The American people got nothing in return.

There aren’t very many good guys in the Senate, and most of them haven’t been there very long. We must send them reinforcements in 2014, and send the weasels home.

http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/642...ors-stood-firm