Thread: If I hear this one more time......

Originally Posted by MsLynn

they only thing they will replace is our uniform shirt.. its the only part of the uniform they supply...but we will definitely hear of about 400 ways we could have prevented the damage, lmao.. any and all gas is on me, but if I use supplies from my "jump kit" ie. bandages, splinting supplies or such, i can usually get them back from the ambulance. but not always.

Let's say you are dressed up in your new leather coat and stop at an auto incident and your jacket tears on a sharp edge and your new fancy expensive boots gets anti-freeze and oil on them....that's not your uniform. That's all on you.

Originally Posted by MsLynn

OK, i'm just gonna say this... Most people know what teachers get paid when they start college for it.. its a choice THEY MAKE THEMSESLVES.... thats the only problem i have hearing about their low pay...

The way the quote is worded - I doubt a teacher wrote it. It was most likely one of the same, who post the same exact thing about every profession, child abuse, animal abuse & etc on facebook, it did come from facebook. I actually do not see a "teacher" complaining about "thier" jobs. Just some random "post it if you agree" quote.

A teacher somewhere tonight is grading and preparing lessons to teach your children while you are watching television. In the minute it takes you to read this, teachers all over the world are using their "free time", and often investing their own money, for your child's literacy, prosperity, and future. Re-post if you are a teacher, love a teacher or appreciate our teachers...

Originally Posted by Bliss

The way the quote is worded - I doubt a teacher wrote it. It was most likely one of the same, who post the same exact thing about every profession, child abuse, animal abuse & etc on facebook, it did come from facebook. I actually do not see a "teacher" complaining about "thier" jobs. Just some random "post it if you agree" quote.

A teacher somewhere tonight is grading and preparing lessons to teach your children while you are watching television. In the minute it takes you to read this, teachers all over the world are using their "free time", and often investing their own money, for your child's literacy, prosperity, and future. Re-post if you are a teacher, love a teacher or appreciate our teachers...

Although it may have not been written by a teacher, I've seen many teachers post it on their wall.

Okay...you win. Teachers have a great gig. I don't know why we all don't become a teacher. It's an easy life!

Not for one minute am I going to disput the importance of teacher. I will even agree that a lot of teachers are not paid what they are worth.

BUT, those people who became teachers knew from the get go that teaching did not pay what it should. I have a friend who's grandson is in college, his second year I believe, and already, he is complaining what his salary will be in the future. I would not wanting a person like this teaching a child of mine. If he is that frustrated now, how frustrated is he going to be when he is actually dealing with a class full of children? What kind of teacher is he going to be? Is he going to take out his frustrations on the children that he is supposed to be preparing for their future? Right now, he has time to change his major. He's not going to do it. It seems to me that he would change his major if all he is going to do is complain about his salary and benefits.

Has anyone given any thought that teacher's are low paid because in the not too distant past, most of them were women? Really, I think there is more women in teaching even today than there is men but I could be very wrong about that.

Has anyone given any thought that teacher's are low paid because in the not too distant past, most of them were women? Really, I think there is more women in teaching even today than there is men but I could be very wrong about that.

IMO and lots of others share it too, teaching (generally) is a "female" friendly profession. What other profession can a woman enter that will give her pretty much the same holidays off and pretty much the same work schedule as their children's schooling? Sure there are teachers who work year round, pick up "teaching jobs/tutoring" on the side (which pays extremely well), etc. but the basic teaching schedule is pretty much the same as the students.

I would definitely encourage my children (especially the girls) to become teachers. It has some perks that other professions do not have and yes, it has its drawbacks as well.

well, I thought I was just goint to sit back and read what everyone had to say, but here goes: My dh is a teacher with 35 years experience. He has just now cracked the 50k mark. If he wants a year long salary, he gets less in his check every month. He frequently scours Micheals $1 bins because schools do not much in the way of funds anymore. He is at school right now, when school is out because of snow, to do lesson planning. He is at work every day at 7am, and is not home until 6, and most of the time he goes out to the school on Sundays. He has lots of sick days, because if he wants to take a personal leave day for a doctors appt, he has to pay out of his own pocket a sub. As for holidays, the only holidays teachers get are an Easter break, and an Xmas break. And of course, if there is any inclement weather, those holidays are cut in to. And also, when the students get out, teachers usually have to come back to school to have work days. Yes, all the other jobs out there are very important. But could a doctor, pharmacist, nurse, solider, or anyone else in a profession could have managed to get where they are without having learned how to read and write? The world is dependant on teachers. It is a shame that atheletes get paid millions of dollars when a teacher taught them everything they know. Now, off MY soapbox.

Originally Posted by Kelsey1224

Okay...you win. Teachers have a great gig. I don't know why we all don't become a teacher. It's an easy life!

Some have a better gig than others as with any profession.

Originally Posted by Breezin

It really depends on the area -- my sister is a teacher, she teaches in a great district and is the most "sought after" teacher in her grade & district she never has to spend any of her own money -- she was actually just saying they usually get x amount of money to spend on classroom supplies and she spent it and then they came back to everyone and told them they each have to spend another thousand dollars -- she said she doesn't need anything and they told her to find something so they don't cut it out of the budget for next year.

After her first year of teaching her lesson plans are all pretty set and she gets "prep" periods during the day that takes care of grading papers and any tweaks to the lesson plan, she gets 30 paid holidays/vacation days PLUS personal days PLUS sick days PLUS the summer off(from pretty much the last week in June until the day after labor day) but you are correct she has the choice of taking her 6 figure salary in 10 payments or 12 -- you really don't hear her complain much at all.

In Long Island, a 6 figure teaching salary is very conceivable. Below are the averages. With Nassau/Suffolk NY coming in at the high seventies and mid-80's average, many 6 figures would be calculated into that.

Also keep in mind, these salaries are for working 10 months, so theoretically, a teacher may teach over the summer for those months and also increase their overall income.

Top Cities for Teacher Salaries
Teachers interact with children and young adults every day, teaching them academics and life lessons, shaping their futures and serving as positive role models. Do you feel that teachers deserve to be paid more than they are? Is $40,000 per year enough to compensate for all that teachers do to help the future generations of our country? Here are the top cities for teacher salaries, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Top cities for preschool teachers

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•U.S. average salary: $25,800
•Best average teacher salaries:
◦Grand Rapids-Wyoming, MI: $46,730
◦Vineland-Millville-Bridgeton, NJ: $42,640
◦Napa, CA: $41,870
◦Muskegon-Norton Shores, MI: $38,300
◦New Haven, CT: $37,910
Top cities for kindergarten teachers

•U.S. average salary: $47,750
•Best average teacher salaries:
◦Nassau-Suffolk, NY: $77,400
◦Yuba City, CA: $74,680
◦Fresno, CA: $71,750
◦Kingston, NY: $65,270
◦Stockton, CA: $64,140
Top cities for elementary school teacher salaries

•U.S. average salary: $50,040
•Best average teacher salaries:
◦Nassau-Suffolk, NY: $78,400
◦Yuba City, CA: $70,060
◦Fresno, CA: $70,020
◦Ann Arbor, MI: $69,310
◦Kingston, NY: $67,450
Top cities for middle school teacher salaries

•U.S. average salary: $50,630
•Best average teacher salaries:
◦Nassau-Suffolk, NY: $78,150
◦Modesto, CA: $66,690
◦Napa, CA: $66,230
◦New York-White Plains-Wayne, NY-NJ: $66,070
◦Kingston, NY: $65,980
Top cities for secondary school teacher salaries

•U.S. average salary: $52,450
•Best average teacher salaries:
◦Nassau-Suffolk, NY: $78,380
◦Ann Arbor, MI: $75,820
◦Lake County-Kenosha County, IL-WI: $71,520
◦Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL: $69,070
◦Santa Ana-Anaheim-Irvine, CA: $68,450
Top cities for special ed teacher salaries – preschool, kindergarten, and elementary school

•U.S. average salary: $51,230
•Best average teacher salaries:
◦Nassau-Suffolk, NY: $76,420
◦Visalia-Porterville, CA: $74,780
◦Ann Arbor, MI: $73,230
◦San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA: $67,750
◦Modesto, CA: $67,090
Top cities for special ed teacher salaries – middle school teachers

•U.S. average salary: $51,610
•Best average teacher salaries:
◦Visalia-Porterville, CA: $86,880
◦Bethesda-Gaithersburg-Frederick, MD: $77,940
◦Nassau-Suffolk, NY: $75,750
◦Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT: $68,330
◦Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT: $66,380
Top cities for special ed teacher salaries – secondary school teachers

•U.S. average salary: $53,020
•Best average teacher salaries:
◦Nassau-Suffolk, NY: $83,240◦
Visalia-Porterville, CA: $73,910
◦Holland-Grand Haven, MI: $73,910
◦Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT: $70,330
◦Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV: $70,330
In addition to location, teacher salaries also vary a great deal depending on each teachers’ education and years of experience. Teacher salaries may also depend on whether the institution is a public or private school. In general, teachers at private schools will have a lower salary but a private school may be the way to go if you are interested in teaching directly out of college before getting your certification. All teachers must have a college degree, and most public schools require that a teacher also have certification. For state-specific information on teacher certification, visit the University of Kentucky College of Education’s “50 State’s Certification Requirements”.

Employment for teachers is expected to grow by 12 percent between 2006 and 2016, which is about as fast as the average growth rate for all occupations. Preschool and kindergarten teachers are expected to have the highest job growth with a rate of 23 percent, while secondary school and vocational school teachers are projected to have the lowest job growth. Special education teachers are also in higher demand and these jobs are expected to grow at a rate of 15 percent, which is faster than average. For more information on what it’s like to be a teacher and how to get there, check out the Bureau of Labor Statistics employment profile on Teachers.

http://www.employmentspot.com/employ...cher-salaries/

In a profession with increasingly high turnover and recruiting issues, boosting the salaries of new teachers could help to increase the amount of time they spend with a particular school or school district. Additionally, wide discrepancies between teacher salaries from region to region also affect the likelihood that a qualified teacher will work for a school with low salaries. Some school districts offer high teacher salaries and great benefits, while others do not. With the rising price of gas and other inflation, teachers must make difficult choices when considering where to work. Again, the discrepancy in teacher salary from district to district can hinder the likelihood of retaining veteran teachers. Before accepting a position, teachers should research the salaries from district to district in their areas. Ask other teachers where they enjoy working and for a list of pros and cons of a particular school or school district.

http://www.employmentspot.com/employ...ries-by-state/

According to CBSalary.com, the average teacher salary by city was as follows:
•Springfield, IL – $48,015
•Chicago, IL – $53,713
•Atlanta, GA – $35,903
•Savannah, GA – $25,008
•Orlando, FL – $31,684
•Tampa, FL – $36,630
•Miami, FL – $34,501

Teacher salary also varies according to education level of the teacher. A teacher with a four year bachelor’s degree may make less than a teacher with a master’s degree. The ranges for teacher salary in Chicago, IL vary from $37,372 to $89,620.

Originally Posted by Sarry

I'm a long time lurker and first time poster, so I hope this is okay to post since none of you actually know me...

I'm a little bit offended reading some of the posts, I won't lie. I'm a student studying to be a teacher and it's more difficult than many people realize. I am not trying to make excuses nor am I trying to imply no one else works hard. The fact is, many jobs take a lot of work and effort and I think so many people deserve praise for the work they do. Despite the hard work it takes, I would never ever give up this job for the world. I went into college knowing that my future career does not pay too well and that it can be difficult, but I love working with kids. The hard work I put in is paid back by the fact that I get to educate these kids and shape their lives for the better.

Despite that, it still does hurt me to see that people think the job is easy and that teachers whine too much despite their benefits. I cannot speak for all teachers, but I can speak for myself: I simply want to be respected and for my job to be respected becase I do put in a lot of work. I do not expect everyone to understand what goes into being a teacher, but I hope you all understand that it does take a lot.

I live in Massachusetts, and we have among the most strict regulations for teaching in the country. In order for my to teach elementary school students, I have had to take and pass five tests (averaging $70 a piece) and I will have to get my Master's degree. I will also have to renew my teaching license every five years for the remainder of my teaching career. Renewing my license requires a certain number of professional development points, which are acquired in a variety of ways (attending workshops, working with student teachers, and taking courses). Personally, I think it's a GOOD thing that these requirements are in place because they help to ensure teachers are at the top of their game and are always learning new things. The reason I am mentioning it, though? These things certainly have their setbacks.

From what I have looked up (I am not sure when these studies were done so I cannot attest to their validity), the average person with a Master's degree makes between $55k and $65k a year, whereas teachers with the same degree make $40k on average. Don't get me wrong, I feel blessed to live in a place where I CAN make $40k a year. I do not intend to sound ungrateful! Despite that, I still do find it a bit unfair and I hope I do not seem selfish for that. Initially, much of this money will be going to pay back college loans for me. I also know that teachers are given a certain amount for classroom supplies, but with recent budget cuts, that number is limited. As a result, classroom supplies will be coming out of that number as well. This number will vary, of course, from teacher to teacher. Someone mentioned this can be deducted from taxes - not totally true. Only a few hundred dollars can be deducted (I believe $600). That may seem like a lot, but remember you have approximately 25-30 kids per class, meaning that is only $20-$25 per child. If a teacher wants to impliment things like technology into their classroom, it can be quite difficult to get those funds anywhere except for out of pocket. Again, I can only speak for myself here.... but I fully intend to spoil my class! I think my students deserve the absolute BEST, and if that leaves me with little, then that's okay with me!! Believe me, if I was doing this just for money, I wouldn't have chosen to teach.

Then there are the vacations.... A lot of people don't realize that most teachers don't stop working just because they have a summer vacation. It is certainly a benefit that I do NOT take for granted, however, as I mentioned, I will need to renew my teaching license every few years. The teachers I have been supervised by in my education courses have all taken courses during this time to contribute to their professional development. Some of these courses may meet only a few times, but others meet multiple times every week like any other college course. Others I have known took up a second job during the summmer since they were not paid during that period. Also, preparing for a new year takes up time as well. Teachers must prepare their classrooms, familiarize themselves with their new students based upon their portfolios, prepare for student testing in younger grades, etc.

Anyway, I hope that explained my thoughts well enough. My real point here is that good teachers do work hard!! Yes, I believe we are often underappreciated and underpaid. Yes, I think there are many aspects of being a teacher that a lot of people do not understand. That being said, though, I think the same is true for MANY other jobs! I would NEVER give up teaching for the world because it is something I am passionate about, but that does not mean I don't think that teachers deserve better in some aspects

I truly appreciate your devotion to your chosen career -- sounds like you will make an excellent teacher.

BUT many professions have multiple exams that you must take in order to be licensed, my dh is a PE and had to take multiple exams and must acquire professional development points and take continuing education courses in order to maintain their license and renew it every so many years throughout his career

I know when my sister takes on a student teacher she is awarded "free credits" to take courses at the school the student teacher came from -- quite often these are sold (at a discount) to other teachers who are either going back to school or putting their children through college -- one year my son had a teacher that had a continuous flow of student teachers one right after the other, she was putting her dd through college for a huge discount -- think of what a disruption that must have been to the students.