Lying to get on welfare

**Mini** · 02-20-2009, 12:06 AM

Oh my word I dont even know what to think!
It must be the year to find out who your friends really are!!

My best friend calls me up tonight crying and I ask her whats going on and she proceeds to tell me her husband(they are separated) had called and informed her that he turned her in for some things she had done. I was thinking ok she couldnt have done anything that bad right? UGH. Turns out that because her and her husband were separated she didnt want to wait for him to file his taxes to claim her and their son so she got her dad to claim them on his taxes(which was wrong) and he gave her quite a bit of money out of it. Also it seems she lied to the state to be able to get her and her 2 kids health & dental insurance. If that wasnt enough..I dont know what the heck she lied about to get this much but she lied to be able to get onto food stamps TO GET CLOSE TO $500 A MONTH!! Nope no typo 500. I was speechless! Ugh there are more details I could give but Im not gonna go into it!!

I dont think theres anything wrong with getting help when you need it but to lie to get it?? Uhh

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**fleabones3** · 02-20-2009, 12:09 AM

OMG thats horrible. And thats why those that REALLY need it can't get it. I dont mind if you need food stamps ( hell with the price of meat milk and veggies who the hell couldnt use some) but to lie to get it. No. No way. Especially when she gyped him out of " their " tax money. So, are you going to stay friends with her or what?

**gmyers** · 02-20-2009, 12:41 AM

It doesn't pay to do tat and then get divorced. He can hold that over her to get her to settle for hardly anything in support. And her dad could get in trouble too.

**DonnaWV** · 02-20-2009, 03:24 AM

Thats almost a way of life around here, Mini. I don't know how they get away with it, but they do. I am sorry you have to go thru this. That is one reason people who need help, can not get it. Makes me mad, but there is nothing you can do about it.

**cabby92** · 02-20-2009, 03:50 AM

He can still file his taxes claiming them (as long as he is entitled to, that is) . The return will reject and he wil have to deal with a bunch of crap by mail but it will eventually straighten out. It will take longer but if he's in the right he'll get his part, she'll get hers and dad will get a big bill.

**Char** · 02-20-2009, 04:16 AM

Lots of people lie to get benefits... and it is wrong. You are right though, you never 'really' know someone unless you live with them, even then, it's iffy !

A woman (maybe 28 or 29) moved in next door... she has no job, she gets welfare, food stamps, and HUD. She claims she can't work because she has no one to watch her 4 year old daughter. Well, she has a men living with her (he doesn't work either), and, another female, maybe early 20's. Those other people are living on her state support. They give her some cash to live there, and that keeps her in partying, while the other female watches the daughter... constantly.

It's BS... she has this 'other money' coming in, but, gets full benefits... and, I guess now she's getting her electric paid by the state.

**Mary Jo** · 02-20-2009, 05:19 AM

It irritates me that people lie to get welfare when we txpayers ae paying for it. I've known people who have lied and cheated to get welfare and there's not a whole lot you can do about it. The people at the welfare office are overworked and don't really care.
The IRS is something different. They will find out and believe me you really don't want to mess with them. It may take awhile, but they will find out.
There's nothing you can really do about it. I figure if somebody can lie and cheat the government, they can lie and cheat to you. So now you know that you really can't trust that person.

**taz69** · 02-20-2009, 05:51 AM

It is really annoying to watch others cheat, and then when I do it the right way-I have to wait for over a month and a half for any kind of aid, because I had to claim what little money he did give me for one month (just enough to pay rent and bills-no groceries)-but I did it legal. We have been living off friends and food bank for a few weeks, but I should have food stamps-legally-sometime next week. Shame on her!

**ilikefree** · 02-20-2009, 07:23 AM

How do people get away with that? Doesn't anyone check out what they submit?! Our sons are on medicaid and get a Healthy Start card. When it came time to go over our financial information again I seriously forgot to include my income, which I get from substituting in the school cafeteria. I forgot to include it with dh's income because I don't work that often and honestly forgot about it. A few days after I sent them the material they requested, I got a letter in the mail saying that I didn't include my income. If they knew that about me, I don't see how they can't know that someone is lying to get welfare.

**baragabrat** · 02-20-2009, 07:27 AM

In the early 70's I went on welfare for about 3-4 mos. No food stamps then, just a monthly check. I couldn't work at the time, my 2 kids were toddlers. When I finally worked things out for myself and went to get OFF Welfare, the worker tried to talk me into keeping it. I really had a hard time trying to convince her that I had a job, didn't need it, situation changed.

Welfare is a grand thing. It's intent is absolutely wonderful but over the years, as some folks realized, "hey, I can get money and don't have to work," it's gone down the toilet. It's no longer the grand thing it once was and meant to be. So the people that actually need it and use it are scorned because there are stupid ******* out there who are all about themselves and no one else.

I'm not saying anything that others haven't said but it just pisses me the hell off that we seem to be a nation of takers and not givers. I know that we step up in times of disaster, but we should always step up and be there for our neighbors, friends, strangers. And one way to do that is not to take what isn't ours....what we don't deserve or need, so that others don't have to suffer for it!

**tunisia** · 02-20-2009, 08:03 AM

I always say that sooner or later when one cheats, it catches up with them. Just look at Madoff, Stanford, and all the rest all the way down to your friend.

My way of thinking is that if I do things the honest way, although I may struggle, I'm all the better for it, and can go to sleep @ night knowing I've been honest with myself.

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