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    Quote Originally Posted by DtroitPunk View Post
    YES I totally AGREE in a sexual situation. NOT when it comes to life inside her.

    THe point I was making is that women really need to OWN the fact that it is their body and start being responsible in their choices.

    (realize folks, I know that ALOT of women are responsible)

    Ok, so you are saying the WOMAN is totally at fault for getting pregnant and a man has nothing what so ever to do with it?

    What are you dude (I am assuming you are male from some of your posts) a monk? Are you saying you never have sex? Have you ever been in such a situation? and If you have, did you step up to the plate, run, or push for the abortion? Or are you one of these people who stand outside abortion clinics and plot or carry out shotings and bombings? Is Eric Rudolph your hero?

    What about in the case of Ectopic pregnancy? Is it murder to have an abortion in your eyes in this case?

    On that note, I will say I am pro choice, which does not mean I am pro abortion. I would never get one myself, but I feel that a woman should have the option to chose. I am totally against partial birth abortions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbob View Post
    "I do apologize that what you consider to be my OPINIONS trouble you, but you may wish to evaluate why that is. Your opinions dont trouble me a bit except for my concern for your soul.

    IF there is a GOD and IF he has expectations and guidelines for our lives than whether you belive in him or not you will still be judged according to his standards.

    I believe this absolutely and you do not. ONE of us is correct. This is not something you can gamble with PLEASE actually check it out for yourself."


    OK, here we go. Your opinions DO NOT trouble me, what troubles me is your desire to ram them down my throat. As for your "concern for my soul",PLEASE do not be concerned. You are NOT the person I will stand in front of when my time comes, so your concern actually means little.

    How do you actually know whos standards we will be judged by? Please do not state that the Bible says it is so, because the Bible was written by men NOT God.

    And last but not least, perhaps you should open your mind enough to admit that perhaps we are BOTH wrong?

    Somehow I am not surprized that you are male. Forgive me, but if you cannot actually do something(I.E. give birth) that you are not qualified to judge an action you will never need.
    OK, first off I dont try to RAM my opinions down anyones throat. Do I have you tied to a chair? Am I forcing you to read my posts?

    I will not address you with concern any longer, you have asked me not to. BUT my god has told me through his word the BIBLE that I have a responsibility to share his word with the world. THAT is why I Make unpopular statements because I have been told to AND because I care.

    MANY here think that I am a big intolerant jerk. I understand this.

    What you guys dont understand is that if it were just up to me, EVERYONE could live however they wanted to and go to hell in whatever way seems best to them.

    My lord has told me though that if I see a person who DOESNT know his word that I am to share with them lest I be guilty of their souls going to hell. If you say you dont want to hear it I WILL LEAVE YOU ALONE.

    So. I am not FORCING my views on anyone simply trying to share and hopefully encourage thought on differing worldviews.

    I can admit that I might be wrong. BUT noone here has given me anything more than opinion to show me that I am.

    I am not sure why my being a MAN annoys so many women here. I have some ideas, but best not to speculate. EVERYONE is entitled to an opinion on ANY subject. This is America. I dont have to be Mexican to have an opinion on ILLEGAL immigration and I dont need to be a woman to be entitled to an opinion in the abortion debate either. I STARTED THIS THREAD. You have the right to disagree with me, but if you dont like what I have to say on a thread I started you can always NOT READ MY POSTS.

    ANd lastly, I wasnt forced or coerced into the Christian Faith I researched religion and checked all the available facts and became a CHristian.

    The bible was written by man much the way a letter is typed by a secretary. IF a secretary sends out letters that misrepresent her bosses statements, she will be FIRED.

    IF there is a God and he told men what to write and they wrote instead what they wanted....WHAT do you think would happen to them?

    Everyone THINKS that the bible can not be trusted. Why not actually do a little research into what you deride before you make value judgements. A good start would be The Case For Faith by Lee Strobel. HE goes to leading theological and religious authorities with some of the toughest and most common questions non believers have about Christianity like how can I trust the bible etc.

    If you choose to ignore me I will understand. I am NOT trying to force anything on anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaker_Parrots View Post
    Ok, so you are saying the WOMAN is totally at fault for getting pregnant and a man has nothing what so ever to do with it?

    What are you dude (I am assuming you are male from some of your posts) a monk? Are you saying you never have sex? Have you ever been in such a situation? and If you have, did you step up to the plate, run, or push for the abortion? Or are you one of these people who stand outside abortion clinics and plot or carry out shotings and bombings? Is Eric Rudolph your hero?

    What about in the case of Ectopic pregnancy? Is it murder to have an abortion in your eyes in this case?

    On that note, I will say I am pro choice, which does not mean I am pro abortion. I would never get one myself, but I feel that a woman should have the option to chose. I am totally against partial birth abortions.

    PLEASE read my other posts! I never said what you think I said and I explain all about my beliefs and my sex life in my posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DtroitPunk View Post
    YES my wife does know that according to the bible she was a whore. key word WAS. She has asked for and been given FORGIVENESS. Because she admits as I do that we were wrong for what we did.
    Wow...how disrespectful is this??? Man o man...geesh...

    Just out of curiosity what did it make you when you were sleeping with her???

    Amazing how God is able to forgive you and your wife for your sinful ways but God can't forgive anyone else, according to you and your Bible.
    The more you complain, the longer God makes you live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeMary View Post
    You know if I thought more of you, I would be offended, but I don't so I am not.
    When my stepdaughter goes on and on and on about religious, it generally means she is off her meds and needs to be put in the hospital...maybe its something you should consider.
    Seriously, you give Christians a bad name and if you want to call me names and doubt my Christianity, then honey I say have it, I have been called worse by alot better I can assure you. So you just continue on as you have been, turning fence riders against God and I will just sit here pretending to be a Christian. And yes I love Broke Back Mountain, I not only gave my money to rent it, I also purchased a copy just for me. Sure hope I don't burn in hell because I can't hate everyone.
    ALL I will adress here is that I DONT HATE ANYONE. But I will not as A christian own ANY movie whos whole premise id sexual immorality and marital infidelity. This is just me. ANd whats with all the personal attacks? you cant actually debate me or argue me down so you have to imply that I need medication? OK whatever makes you feel better.

    But I notice that you think you are better than I am but you still didnt show me that your bible says something that Bob Enyarts doesnt.

    I use the bible to support my views and convictions you just say THATS WHAT I THINK!!! SO TUFF TITTY!

    I believe at this point that it is obvious that we will never agree so unless you ask me something I wont answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeMary View Post
    I have nothing to prove to you. You think are entitled to something because you can read a book, call people name, place judgment all because you are a black christian father that works and tries to teach his children right? It entitles you to nothing, I expect it out of you and evey other adult that has children. Get over yourself. Jesus didn't walk around trying to make enemies, why are you???
    Actually, I am of mixed origin but LOOK alot like my icon. I am not black and neither were either of my parents, not that this should even be an issue.

    AND I said you were being stupid and alarmist because of your name calling my site and I proved that your statements were FALSE.

    I personally do think its important that I have a book (the Bible) it gives me absolute guidance. When I am not sure what is right, I turn to it. And as someone who uses Christs name (christian) the bible SHOULD matter to you as well.

    ANd Jesus didnt go around trying to make enemies...but he made plenty anyways didnt he? I also am not trying to make enemies. But I wont cry if you dislike me. In fact I wont even Care...Jesus spoke the truth . And based on his word I try to do the same.

    Like I said just a minute ago...we are done here

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    Quote Originally Posted by DtroitPunk View Post
    ALL I will adress here is that I DONT HATE ANYONE. But I will not as A christian own ANY movie whos whole premise id sexual immorality and marital infidelity. This is just me. ANd whats with all the personal attacks? you cant actually debate me or argue me down so you have to imply that I need medication? OK whatever makes you feel better.

    But I notice that you think you are better than I am but you still didnt show me that your bible says something that Bob Enyarts doesnt.

    I use the bible to support my views and convictions you just say THATS WHAT I THINK!!! SO TUFF TITTY!

    I believe at this point that it is obvious that we will never agree so unless you ask me something I wont answer.
    You come here, call me names, try to judge me, etc...and poor you??? What ever.
    Yes, I do think I am better then you. So what? You will never ever hear me tell someone their religion is wrong, because I SAID SO. You do not want to discuss or debate. You want to dictate and all your research and all your readings are fine and perfect for you but for others it isn't. Because people don't want to trash the Catholic religion and people don't want to agree to your weird ways, thoughts, then they aren't Christians, yadda yadda yadda. I have been here for years and have even fed many many trolls like yourself. I just keep telling myself, this to shall pass. You will bore and move onto another forum and trash their members etc...you are very typical for this type of forum.
    But know one thing you can take to the bank and talk to your God about, Mary will pray for you as she does for hundred of others nightly. God loves and you are a child of God and I too love you but at the same time I pity you that you think being a Christian means, no enjoying anything except tearing others and their religions down and of course belittling people because they are different that you.
    I happen to have Christ in my heart. I witness for the Lord to the best of my ability and if it doesn't pass your tests, well frankly I don't give a darn. All I can do is pray for you.
    The more you complain, the longer God makes you live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DtroitPunk View Post
    MANY here think that I am a big intolerant jerk. I understand this.

    I am not sure why my being a MAN annoys so many women here. I have some ideas, but best not to speculate.

    Everyone THINKS that the bible can not be trusted. Why not actually do a little research into what you deride before you make value judgements. A good start would be The Case For Faith by Lee Strobel. HE goes to leading theological and religious authorities with some of the toughest and most common questions non believers have about Christianity like how can I trust the bible etc.
    If you are reading Lee Strobel, I can understand your jaded "christian" view. The man professes to be an Athiest turned Christian.
    http://www.leestrobel.com/LS_bio.htm


    Also, it isn't that you are a man, we have plenty of men who post here that we like, you just come across as a rude obnoxious jerk. I honestly feel sorry for your wife if you go around calling her a "whore." If you had sex before marriage(which I believe I saw in another of your posts) wouldn't that make you a "whore" as well. Does she know you call her that? How can you have a loving relationship if you think so badly of her?

    Also, I really dont want to read through all of your posts to get the answer to the questions I asked, I can see how you are from one or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahippiechic View Post
    And I didn't see ANYWHERE that Yankeemary was judging you. Being amused by you and judging are 2 diff things.

    But I AM bad to judge people based on what I know of them. And from what I know of you, from your posts here, I really don't like. People like you make me so sad, I feel sorry for you. Going to such expremes to try and force everyone to agree with you. Pitiful.
    She did judge me by bringing up eminem as If I liked him. When you make a decision about someone without all the facts that is a judgement.

    judgment: an opinion formed by judging something

    judgment: the act of judging or assessing a person or situation or event

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    Quote Originally Posted by DtroitPunk View Post
    Actually, I am of mixed origin but LOOK alot like my icon. I am not black and neither were either of my parents, not that this should even be an issue.

    AND I said you were being stupid and alarmist because of your name calling my site and I proved that your statements were FALSE.

    I personally do think its important that I have a book (the Bible) it gives me absolute guidance. When I am not sure what is right, I turn to it. And as someone who uses Christs name (christian) the bible SHOULD matter to you as well.

    ANd Jesus didnt go around trying to make enemies...but he made plenty anyways didnt he? I also am not trying to make enemies. But I wont cry if you dislike me. In fact I wont even Care...Jesus spoke the truth . And based on his word I try to do the same.

    Like I said just a minute ago...we are done here
    Well you changed your signature line because it did say Black.
    Talk about not answering questions...I asked you questions and since you can't or won't answer them then the topic is closed.
    You called your wife and the mother of your children a whore. I am curious as to what you are called for your sinful ways. You need to be accountable remember. You expect all of us to be accountable, and thats according to the Bible. Yet you won't step to the plate??? hmmmm...Does your wife know you just called her a whore on forum? How shameful. I feel for her. Your butt would be in the doghouse.
    The more you complain, the longer God makes you live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DtroitPunk View Post
    She did judge me by bringing up eminem as If I liked him. When you make a decision about someone without all the facts that is a judgement.

    judgment: an opinion formed by judging something

    judgment: the act of judging or assessing a person or situation or event
    You put the words to one of his songs up...hmmm makes me think you have heard it at least once. I can't even tell you a single name of one of his songs, let alone an entire chorus. I wasn't judging you I made an observation, huge difference and according to you it is my DUTY TO JUDGE, I AM A CHRISTIAN. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

    I made a decision about you long before the song was posted. I made an opinion about you when you thought it was ok to kill a 15 year old kid because he cut through someones yard, numerous times.
    I can not Judge you, as judging means to me I would be judging where your soul goes to once you die, I do not have that ability...thank God.
    The more you complain, the longer God makes you live.

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