Thread: Cmmon sense about Abortion that ALL should agree on.

Originally Posted by stresseater

If you have 14 or 15 year old kid come in for an abortion it is obvious that a crime has taken place. As doctors they are required by law to report the crime of rape/abuse. That's why it is their responsibility. If it isn't then er doctors wouldn't have to report kids with excessive bruising.

When I was 18 in High School back in 1994 we had Two 6th graders one was 12 and the other 13 that were pregnant. Everyone knew about it, the 12 year old even had twins......... so if you could imagine, these poor girls and guess what the guys that were 16 at the time that got them pregnant were not even charged for anything...... nor was anything done about it.
Nothing happened. It was very sad, I wasn't even thinking about that stuff when I was in 6th grade. I didn't even thing about anything like that until I was in 9th grade and that was because I hung out with older kids.
But it was so sad. The 13 year old parents forced her to sign away her rights, so that they could give the baby away, because they didn't want to take care of it. She wanted that baby Sad........... very sad.
I remember when we all found out about it. I was just so shocked for those girls and they still live here too. and that is how everyone knows them.

Originally Posted by freeby4me

Thats the impression I had. Thats why some women dont even get their period after taking them for awhile.

I think we are basically right, according to this site...and all of the other sites I found. This one is just basic, the rest have ALOT of jargon I didnt need to get the same exact information.

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/0663.html

Birth control pills fool the body into acting as if it's pregnant. Birth control pills, also called oral contraceptives (OCs), come in two forms: the combined OC, a combination of two synthetic hormones, estrogen and progestin; and, the minipill, which consists solely of progestin. Combined OCs are more commonly used, though both kinds are available through health care providers. The combination pill prevents ovulation by suppressing the natural hormones in the body that would stimulate the ovary to release an egg. By taking this estrogen throughout the month, you insure that no egg will be developed or released for that cycle. Progestin thickens the cervical mucus, hindering the movement of sperm. Progestin also prevents the uterus's lining from developing normally; so, if an egg were fertilized, implantation is unlikely.


That said, no, BC pills are not 100% effective, I have THREE because of that 98.7% effectivness rate. HOWEVER< think how many I would have had if I WASNT on the pill........

Katt,

Ok, but then are we(collective) told that it take a few months for ovulation to start after you go off the pill? Seriously, I am just confused.

because it depends on the type of pills, and the type of hormone it has in it. Each does something different, like your post said. (the progesterone and estrogen) The hormones build in your body, and if the pill you are one has estrogen it will take those few months (theoretically) to let the levels decrease enough for ovulation to resume.

What confuses me is, larger amounts of estrogen are now found to be a contributing factor in breast cancer. I'm wondering how these new ones (that stop ovulation) are doing it without pumping you full of estrogen. I guess I should start reading now that I have access to the hospitals library.

ETA: When I was on the pill, I was always told it would take a few months for my periods to normalize after stopping, but to use other precautions. I always assumed that meant ovulation would occur and the chances of me getting pregnant where there after stopping the pill.

Maybe one of the older nurses on the board can answer, because all I know is what my texts had in them, and stuff is always changing.

Thanks, I think, lol. I am just confusing myself more and I had a tubal when I had my c/s with Sophie, so Im not sure why I care...just curiosity, I guess.

See, I found this, too.

http://www.fwhc.org/qa/bc-whyperiod.htm

Originally Posted by turbob

You, of course, are entitled to your own opinion. I, in turn, am entitled to mine. I have no comment on abortion, because what I believe is MY business. I take offence at your sweeping statement " Cmmon sense about Abortion that ALL should agree on.". WHY should I agree, because YOU think I should??? I also take offense at your vague suggestion that if I do not believe in God, something terrible is going to happen to me. I am not going to say if I believe in God or not, because that also is NONE of your business. I do need to tell you that even though I do not practice a Christian religion, I have good things happen to me every day. Christians do NOT have a lock on being "blessed". I suggest you watch the movie Dogma and really listen to the message - I am not saying it is right or wrong, but does raise some interesting ideas.

Actually that title only applies to my first post. And I thought that MOST would agree that personal responsibility is important and that Pregnancy prevention should be the ORDER of the day. If everyone practiced this there would be a lOT less need for abortions.

MAny people see this as a control issue sadly. Even women who say I would NEVER have an abortion are uncomfortable telling anyone else that its wrong.

IF YOU believe its wrong for you then why isnt it WRONG? There is no such thing as gray areas. Either things are wrong or right. Correct or false.

And I wont argue that we are all in AMerica prone to being and feeling Blessed. I am only saying that if there is a creator, which HONEST research can PROVE there is...Who is it and what does that mean for our lives. And the movie Dogma if I am not very much mistaken applies mainly to CAtholicism and as you may see from my other posts I am CONSTANTLY at odds with them.

I do apologize that what you consider to be my OPINIONS trouble you, but you may wish to evaluate why that is. Your opinions dont trouble me a bit except for my concern for your soul.

IF there is a GOD and IF he has expectations and guidelines for our lives than whether you belive in him or not you will still be judged according to his standards.

I believe this absolutely and you do not. ONE of us is correct. This is not something you can gamble with PLEASE actually check it out for yourself.

www.leestrobel.com

This link goes to a site whos owner WAS an atheist and a newspaper man with a Degree in law. His wife got saved and he decided to actually look at Christianity like a reporter, and he came away a Born Again Christian.