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    I find it so strange that almost everyone who has posted in this thread agrees with harsher laws, but they are making it out to seem that most "Americans" are against the harsher laws. I really don't care if you are hispanic, or whatever, I would be just as pissed if French, or italians were coming here and refusing to learn english and coming illegally but honestly how often do you see that?? Personally, I've NEVER seen anyone but Mexicans and puerto ricans (big in my area) coming here and pulling that crap. I don't believe there will ever be a middle ground because caucasian americans are the most discriminated against. Where I work, you make $500 if you refer a caucasian to work, you make $2000 if its a woman and $5000 if its a "minority" minority being defined as anyone who isn't white! Just read your post Trixntara, agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixntara
    Personally i think the govt needs to hire crap loads of border security and use AK 47's to blow these idiots as they try to cross into OUR country. If they can't speak english, or simply don't want to, send 'em back. If anyone watches America's Most Wanted, have you noticed the crimes happening now are mostly Hispanics? How in the hell can you identify them? They all look alike!! I wont go into walmart in a certain town anymore, because my friends got jumped at thanksgiving in the parking lot by 2 male mexicans simply because one was driving a Lincoln Town Car. They thought they were going to get some cash. To make a long story short, get the illegals out of this country, give americans their jobs back, and please let there be a future president soon that will see this problem and fix Clinton's screw up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    My Sweetie would agree with some of the B.S. you are spouting, and he is a Puerto Rican. Me, I am Black, and I don't agree with nothing you are saying. I am glad everybody in the USA, don't feel the same way you do, cause every Race would be up a creek. As for the USA giving everything away to other countries, and to everybody that comes here from other countries, it needs to stop. We (USA) have more hungry and homeless people then any country in the world, we need to help our own, and then see about giving somebody or another country something. The USA, is built on immergents, and we all give each other a helping hand.
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    Actually around here WA State the mexicians are asking as much or more than anyone else now, we htinkthey got to big for their briches so now they want the same money so they might as well hire legals
    I would say, based on the many replies in this thread, that WA State is an exception. I live in Texas, I have watched a chicken factory that had all American citizens and LEGAL immigrants gradually lose their well paying jobs to illegals who will work for less than minimum wage. This is a very large and well known company across the entire country (Pilgrims Pride) and I sincerely doubt that they are the only ones.
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    Found an interesting site. Obviously they aren't well built, yet. But it would be interesting to watch it grow.

    http://www.wehirealiens.com/
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    As I live very close to the Mexican border, this subject is very much in my mind these days. I can't find a job as a bookkeeper simply because I don't speak Spanish. It doesn't matter where you go in this town, nine times out of ten the people working only speak a little English..especially Walmart. There have been times when I have asked for help from someone there and they can't understand what I am aksing for. I refuse to learn Spanish when they don't make an effort to speak our language. If we moved to their country would they learn English to speak to us?? I don't think so. Even the colleges here in New Mexico admit the illegals, and they get more financial help than I do.
    The news stations in El Paso don't even call them illegal aliens anymore, they are called illegal immigrants....and in my opinioin no way are they immigrants. Immigrants are people that come here legally and work to become citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme23
    I live in Texas, I have watched a chicken factory that had all American citizens and LEGAL immigrants gradually lose their well paying jobs to illegals who will work for less than minimum wage. This is a very large and well known company across the entire country (Pilgrims Pride) and I sincerely doubt that they are the only ones.
    Same here, although Tysons in Southeastern Oklahoma is just as bad.
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    I think the majority of Americans feel the same way most of the posters on this thread seem to. My best friend and I have always had great difficulty agreeing on anything, especially politics. She is a staunch Republican and I tend to be very liberal. However, this is the one area we strongly agree about - keep the illegals out of America!
    Tyson was already on my banned list, I will be adding Pilgrims Pride to it also. Pretty soon I will have to grow all our food and weave our clothing...I'm also thinking that this could work both ways, i.e. support the companies that only hire legal Americans. Anyone have any idea on where I could find such a list of companies that actually support hiring only legal Americans?

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    Yes this country was built from the hard work, sweat and lives of immigrants. LEGAL immigrants. There in lies the difference. I have no problem with those that came or come here legally and register with INS and are lawabiding and hard working. The problem is with the illegal immigrants who come here, expect handouts or work and send their money home &/or commit crimes. We took this land from the native americans but they are a government unto themselves on their land as a result. Also before the immigrants came there were others doing the landscaping. In todays economy where jobs are being outsourced, compies moving overseas because of the incentive given by our government and illegals taking jobs where are our people supposed to work. I have 4 boys 16-21 years of age and only 1 has a paying part time job when he is out of school for the summer. My oldest is a non-paying research assistant with hopes of it leading to a paying job. My other 2 have been to every business withing a 4 mile perameter ( biking/walking sidtance) with no luck. Hollywood video even said they were not being hired because they were not a minority. When a teenager (honor students) cannot get a job flipping burgers, there is a definite problem. My kids will be the first generation not to be better off as their parents and we are financially challenged (poor). So what does that say?

    It is also a matter of our health and welfare. There is no system of checks. They come here and bring bugs, bed bugs to name a common one. They are alo sick and diseased. Why else is tb on the rise when it was pretty much gone in the US. My Mom had the mumps a few years back. It took over 5 hours for them to figure it out because not one doctor had ever seen a case of it before. They just read about it in their medical books. They use religious reason for not inocculating their children but yet they are allowed in our schools to expose our children.

    Where I live we have a high polish,arab,mexican, asian immigrant population. You have to scan theu the papers the school sends home to find english. Yes, everything is printed in the before mentioned language (asian is in mandarian). What a joke and very costly to boot. I have yet to meet a polish or arab that did not speak english. My neighbors are from Mexico. The dad works hard as do his sons. They all are bi-lingual except for the Mom but she does try. They are more the exception than the rule. From 1976-2004 the rastaurant down the street hired illegals. Even brought them here. The worked and ate for free. They all lived in the small 3 bedroom house across the street from the restaurant which the restaurant owned. They slept in shifts and that house was totally trashed by the time the owners retired and sold the restaurant and house. I could not get a job there to save my soul. They only hired illegals. (The owners were Greek). The owners of another nearby restaurant (upscale very nice place) also only hired illegals and greeks. I knew them personally. They also brought the grandpa here ( he was in hid mid 80s. Gave him a ghost job then he went home with a nice US socila security check. My Mom was born in 1928 and after almost 18 years on social security she still gets less than $150 a month. Not a misprint. $150.00 She worked most of her life and started working at 14 years old. Go figure.

    It is time to rally the troops and circle the horses and put a stop to this insanity.

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    Re: Say what you want but....

    Ok.. I just got this in the e-mail from my uncle.. thought ya'll would get a good laugh... LMAO ....


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    LOL Too funny. Good reason.

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    I don't have any idea where you could get such a list, but you may want to add Glad, Hefty and Ruffies plastic products to your banned list. DH has worked in the plastic industry for years and for the last few years most of the production workers have been immigrants...mostly illegal. DH said they have to have two forms of ID to get a job, and that satisfies the law and protects the company...it's not their job to make sure the IDs aren't fake.

    DH came home from work before noon Friday, most of their production workers were taking part in the protest. The company decided that if they didn't want to work Friday, they could also have Sat. and Sun. off without pay. DH is on salary so all it meant for him was a 3 day weekend.

    GA passed a law in the house last week. Illegal immigrants will no longer be able to receive state benefits and there will be a 5% tax on money transfers by illegals, I hope the state senate also passes it.

    We have a fairly large immigrant population, I'm tired of people cutting in line and acting like they don't understand. I recently had a Russian woman who thought she should be allowed to check out before me, even though I was first in line. I finally pissed her off so much that she threw her stuff down and walked out of the store.

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    I think the majority of Americans feel the same way most of the posters on this thread seem to. My best friend and I have always had great difficulty agreeing on anything, especially politics. She is a staunch Republican and I tend to be very liberal. However, this is the one area we strongly agree about - keep the illegals out of America!
    Tyson was already on my banned list, I will be adding Pilgrims Pride to it also. Pretty soon I will have to grow all our food and weave our clothing...I'm also thinking that this could work both ways, i.e. support the companies that only hire legal Americans. Anyone have any idea on where I could find such a list of companies that actually support hiring only legal Americans?
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