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    I came back to say that my other post may seem racist and that was not my intent - I think promotion to go to the deserving, not to someone based on male vs female, black vs white, asian vs etc...I was just amazed that it was posted that they are not in corporate america and i know they are, and besides, even if they were not, does that mean that if we keep them inthe closet and we don't "see" them that it makes it okay?

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    I am also disgusted with the illegal immigrants in the US. They have broken the law by being here illegally. They are breaking the law when they work and are paid "under the table." They are NOT paying taxes. They are getting benefits that WE as Americans cannot get. I can't get welfare, housing, food stamps. I HAVE to pay taxes. The employers that hire illegals should also be fined VERY heavily and their business license revoked, then illegals would not have "day labor" jobs. I am sick of seeing these illegals gathered by the 7-11's, on the corners, in the shopping centers waiting for some stupid A--Holes to hire them. If a bunch of white people or black people would gather like these damn illegals, we would be arrested by the police for "loitering." What the heck is the difference? I am also sick of them moving 15 to 20 people in a house in MY neighborhood and drinking and partying all night long. Littering the entire neighborhood. THese idiots don't start partying until midnight. I will call the police every time I hear loud music, loud talking by these idiots in the middle of the night. Yes, idiots, if they want to live here in my neighborhood, then they should observe the neighbors and live like we do. My American neighbors do not party and drink Corona's all night long. Where do they get all this money to drink Corona or Heinken's and smoke cigarettes. THis stuff is expensive. There are 7 or 8 people living in a house in my neighborhood and only one woman works and another lady in the house babysits ONE child. Yet they drink and party at least 3 times a week. They want to stand outside and smoke, throwing butts all over the sidewalk. If you say anything to them, they reply..............NO ENGLISH. Well, take your non-english speaking a-- back to your country until you learn or at least want to learn english and PAY TAXES.

    I also think it is a good idea as stated above, let them spend a tour in the service and then become a citizen if they still want to live here.

    I could go on forever. I say send ALL ILLEGALS BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.............If they are legal and speak english then give them their citizenship and a tour in the military.
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    Illegal immigration is NOT a problem for racial reasons. It is a problem for economic reasons. We pay for their education, housing, health care and food. I have a hard enough time supporting myself and then when taxes are raised to cover the costs of illegal immigrants, thats less money for my family.

    Illegal immigrants also make car insurance go up. My daughter was hit by an illegal with no car insurance... the illegal was cited and given a ticket. My daughter had to pay for her medical costs and higher insurance premiums. There is no way to leagally hold them accountable for their actions..

    and then there are these guys http://www.oklahomaadvocate.com/Prac...esentation.asp they don't work for the US citizen... they work to keep criminals in my city rather than letting them be deported... they have more rights than I do.
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    One thing that pisses me off about it is I have been paying into our systems since I was 16 years old but last year I didn't have health insurance and no one would help me, I had to pay all my doctors bills in full because I made too much money (ya right!) but a girl I work with, her sister is an illegal and because of this, she got free health care! It's ridiculous. I'm nasty enough that I yell at people who will only speak spanish in public, welcome to america, you wanna live here? LEARN ENGLISH! I've walked out of stores because the customer service people only speak spanish. There are a bunch of illegals in my area who will NOT teach their children english at all as a child simply because they get special treatment in the ESL classes (yes I asked why they weren't learning english and that was the response I received). I'm sick of walking into a store and seeing half the packages in spanish only, and the other half in english and spanish. And YES they DO steal jobs that Americans would take in a heartbeat, not only the "bad" jobs that no one else will do. There are plenty of LEGAL Americans who will work those jobs without a problem. I know where I work there are more immigrants than there are Americans (most are legal though so it's not a problem, they all didn't start that way though!) It's not even an issue of race with me, I don't much care if you're white, black, asian, hispanic, whatever if you want to live here do it legally, and make an attempt to learn the language. If I was visiting France would I learn the language? I would sure as hell make an attempt, if I was living there though, you had better believe I would learn it! Sorry to vent its just an issue that seems to be particularly bad in my area, and I don't even live near any borders!

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    I was talking about this the other day with a friend of mine who is a food stamp case worker in Oklahoma. She says the parents (both illegal) have a child or children here in states and although they can't speak a word of english, they know exactly what services they qualify for. She also said that six out of ten people she qualifies for food stamps is illegal.

    I tried to apply for food stamps several years ago, and was denied because my car was worth more than $2,000.00.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGal
    I was talking about this the other day with a friend of mine who is a food stamp case worker in Oklahoma. She says the parents (both illegal) have a child or children here in states and although they can't speak a word of english, they know exactly what services they qualify for. She also said that six out of ten people she qualifies for food stamps is illegal.

    I tried to apply for food stamps several years ago, and was denied because my car was worth more than $2,000.00.
    makes you wonder if they have classes for how to cheat our system in their home country.

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    I am not going to comment one way or the other because this argument is old, but I will say instead of focusing on the problem why not try focusing on the solution? Four little letters V.O.T.E.!
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    It's not true that they will "only work the jobs that Americans won't do". I do not know WHY ppl insist on saying this. Who the hell do you think did these jobs BEFORE illegal immigrants got those jobs? And WHY do you think they got those jobs? Because they will work below minimum wage and under the table, costing the big man upstairs less money. Come on, use some common sense here, people.

    Edited to add: You wouldn't have trouble going to Europe and finding someone to speak english, either. They aren't doing it for you, but for themselves, because everyone knows America is the land of opportunity... so it is now mandatory in almost every school in every country in the world (w/ various exceptions here and there). Please, don't tell me I am wrong, either. My husband went to high school in Europe and even though he was American, he HAD to take English learning classes because it was mandatory... this was 20 years ago, too.
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    i never knew that illegal aliens could get food stamps and medical. boy, i am out of the loop and so is our system. i can't believe that that is about bassakward. shouldn't they be putting into the system before being able to leach off it??????
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    I saw the protests on the news and saw a sign that read "We didn't cross the border. The border crossed us." This is true in a way. Why are they here protesting instead of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador etc. Maybe if they protested at home their governments would act. I know this is highly unlikely. They come here, work, get services and send the bulk of their dollars home so their families have money to contribute to the economy there. It is time to take a stand and let those with whom we give power that we are fed up and are not going to take it any more. I will NOT vote for any candidate that is pro illegal.

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