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    OM lood what I found---certainly weird sites out there. LOL

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    Circuit advertisement OM lood what I found---certainly weird sites out there. LOL
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    now i know i have seen it all. those bumper sticker sayings at the bottom of the page look very familiar
    There is always someone bigger and badder than you!

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    I wrote back.....

    and tried to profess God's love and that not all Christians are liars and fakes. The enemy just has him so deceived that he can't see past the people that have lied to him. I think he was lied to a lot growing up and it's just a spirit. It can be broken. If I hear anything back.....it'll definitely be God...and I will let you guys know what goes on. Maybe I can steer him somewhere in the right direction
    Trust in the Lord and do good; Dwell in the land, and feed on His faithfulness. Delight yourself also in the Lord, and He shall give you the desires of your heart.

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    Now I know where those signatures came from. Maybe not directly from this web site but another one that agrees with it.

    Here's what Stephan Bennett's web site says about him.




    CREDITS

    Founder, Stephen Bennett ministries, Inc., founded in 2000 -- "A pro-family organization advocating for the traditional family, the protection of children and proclaiming the truth about homosexuality"

    Christian recording artist

    Speaker at conferences, churches, special events; regular on radio and TV

    Married to Irene, two children

    ADDRESS

    P.O. Box 2095
    Huntington, Conn. 06484-1095
    (203) 926-6960

    WEB SITE

    www.sbministries.org/

    CD

    Leaning on the Everlasting Arms
    ( Stephen's 4th CD, due to release October 2003)




    GUEST
    Stephen Bennett



    The 700 Club

    July 18, 2003


    A former homosexual, Stephen discusses his stance on same-sex marriage and explains the media bias against those who have been freed from the homosexual lifestyle.



    CBN.com – Freedom from the Homosexual Lifestyle


    A former homosexual, Stephen, 39, has been happily married for more than ten years and is the father of two children.

    In 2000 Stephen recorded his story of permanently leaving the homosexual lifestyle on his first CD, I Believe in Miracles. The success of this effort in both Christian and secular media outlets prompted Stephen and his family to go into full-time ministry.

    Stephen Bennett Ministries is biblically based and is dedicated to encouraging men and women to overcome their unwanted same-sex attractions. The ministry provides support and resources to family members and friends of homosexuals. The ministry also dispels the myths and misinformation campaign being promoted by the secular media and 'gay' activists, and provides the 'no-spin' truth about an unnatural, immoral, dangerous, and potentially deadly lifestyle.

    Experiencing Censorship from CBS

    Stephen has had firsthand experience with media bias. His interview for CBS is a case in point. Stephen was invited to do an interview with CBS News Sunday Morning, hosted by Charles Osgood, for a segment called "I Do" about same-sex marriage. CBS did a 45-minute interview with him and his wife, Irene. CBS said they were bringing Stephen on to talk about what he is, a former homosexual. In the interview, Stephen mentioned once that he is a Christian. He says he addressed everything about homosexuality from a secular point of view. He realized part way through the taping that it wasn't going the way the producer wanted the interview to go. At the end, Stephen was concerned about how CBS would edit the piece and so he told the producer, "Please promise me that you'll say that I'm a former homosexual." She said she would, and reiterated to him that that was the whole point of having him on as a part of the program.

    When it actually aired, CBS set up the package by saying, "For religious reasons, Stephen and Irene Bennett will not accept homosexuality." Then they used a brief sound bite from Stephen that said, "We say no (to gay marriage) for one reason: homosexuality is wrong," and another sound bite from his wife. CBS also never identified Stephen and Irene as part of a ministry to former homosexuals.

    Concerned Women for America, for whom Stephen sometimes does public speaking, helped set up the interview with Stephen. When they complained to CBS about the way Stephen's appearance in the piece was skewed, CBS claimed that they told Stephen and Irene that they were to be on the program to represent the "religious right."

    The Bennetts say that is a lie, and that if they had been told that, they never would have agreed to appear on the program.

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    I thought about writing and thanking the person for giving me so many good Christian sites. I never heard of lots of them. Thanks for helping me find them. LOL Of course, some are wacko sites but not all. Some are very good in my view. Thanks.

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    Here's one of those "Christian Wackos" now on free speach. Reads like he wants everyone to have free speech. Something I think everyone would agree with. Is that so shocking or hateful???
    Taken from the American Family web site.


    Conservative Leader Wants Hecklers Kept Away From President

    By Chad Groening
    October 2, 2003

    (AgapePress) - A former presidential candidate says it is completely predictable that the ACLU has sued the secret service in order to prevent it from keeping anti-Bush protesters at a distance from the president.

    The American Civil Liberties Union is representing ultra-left-wing groups like the National Organization for Women (NOW) and the anti-military group United for Peace and Justice. The plaintiffs have complained that they are restricted to protest zones where they cannot be seen by the president, vice president or, perhaps most importantly, the media.


    Gary Bauer
    Gary Bauer, president of Campaign for Working Families, says protestors need to realize that neither they nor any other group has unlimited access to the president, for good reasons. "What the ACLU does not understand is that none of our constitutional rights are unlimited -- all of them can be reasonably regulated," he says.

    The conservative spokesman believes dissent is properly allowed and should continue to be. However, "that does not mean that demonstrators should be permitted to be so close to the President of the United States when they're demonstrating that his speech is drowned out, or that other Americans are unable to hear the remarks of the president," Bauer says.

    Besides, the Campaign's spokesman says, it is more often the protesters, not the government, that infringes on the free-speech rights and freedoms of others. He notes that it has seldom been government authorities who attempt "to shut people up," but rather, "it has often been disrupters in debates, speeches, and rallies, trying to drown out a speaker."

    Bauer says a balance must be found between protecting the free expression rights of protesters and public speakers, as well as the right of other citizens to hear what their leaders and spokespersons have to say.

    "But the American Civil Liberties Union, completely predictable, comes out in favor of the right of demonstrators to demonstrate whenever, wherever they want -- even if that means violating the constitutional rights of other Americans," Bauer says.

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    Does it make you feel good that this man is living a lie? Either he wasn't really gay or is he is really lying to himself.

    You don't just wake up one day and say Gee I don't feel gay anymore. Anymore than I can wake up one day and say I don't feel like a woman anymore.

    This is just wrong to do to people. Being gay has to be hard enough. The hatred, the bigotry, the out and out nastiness -- and that is just from you Janelle has to be overwhelming. Now you're gonna tell them that if they were good Christians they could change? Yeah, right whatever.

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    Originally posted by miccit
    Does it make you feel good that this man is living a lie? Either he wasn't really gay or is he is really lying to himself.

    You don't just wake up one day and say Gee I don't feel gay anymore. Anymore than I can wake up one day and say I don't feel like a woman anymore.

    This is just wrong to do to people. Being gay has to be hard enough. The hatred, the bigotry, the out and out nastiness -- and that is just from you Janelle has to be overwhelming. Now you're gonna tell them that if they were good Christians they could change? Yeah, right whatever.
    I totally agree, Miccit. I can't imagine that anyone would voluntarily become a homosexual. Who would want to live their lives persecuted and being told they should be ashamed of themselves and be shunned the way most of society does to gay people.

    I've seen so many news programs and read all the Time and Newsweek articles about this and in my opinion, it boils down to people wanting to be accepted and deciding that it's easier to live a lie than to go it as a gay person and live outside the "norm".

    How sad for them that they have to give up who they are to please everyone else.

    I would think that people who believe proclaim themselves as good Christians would do everything in their power to be kind to someone regardless of their sexual orientation.

    I find it ironic that people are so quick to find the passages in scriptures that list the things people aren't supposed to do such as have an alternative lifestyle and they seem to forget the important ones like "Be kind to one another and do unto others."

    I'd rather be in a loving same sex relationship than one based upon societal demands of the norm.

    If some of these people are genuinely able to say that they are no longer gay and are ready for a heterosexual relationship, then good for them, but I can't imagine being the partner in that situation. I would always be waiting for the shoe to drop and for the person to admit that they were wrong and leaving. It seems a situation destined for heartache.

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    Originally posted by debbyfaye
    I totally agree, Miccit. I can't imagine that anyone would voluntarily become a homosexual. Who would want to live their lives persecuted and being told they should be ashamed of themselves and be shunned the way most of society does to gay people.

    I've seen so many news programs and read all the Time and Newsweek articles about this and in my opinion, it boils down to people wanting to be accepted and deciding that it's easier to live a lie than to go it as a gay person and live outside the "norm".

    How sad for them that they have to give up who they are to please everyone else.

    I would think that people who believe proclaim themselves as good Christians would do everything in their power to be kind to someone regardless of their sexual orientation.

    I find it ironic that people are so quick to find the passages in scriptures that list the things people aren't supposed to do such as have an alternative lifestyle and they seem to forget the important ones like "Be kind to one another and do unto others."

    I'd rather be in a loving same sex relationship than one based upon societal demands of the norm.

    If some of these people are genuinely able to say that they are no longer gay and are ready for a heterosexual relationship, then good for them, but I can't imagine being the partner in that situation. I would always be waiting for the shoe to drop and for the person to admit that they were wrong and leaving. It seems a situation destined for heartache.
    ITA. I think it is hypocritical of so called Christians to spew this kind of crap. You can change if you really want to. Yeah, sure you can. And I can grow flippers and become a dolphin.

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    Who said this person woke up one morning and decided they were no longer gay? I'm sure it took lots of therapy and wanting to change to get to the point he got to. Most people that want to change a behavior go thorough torment to achieve it. Think about any one in therapy who wants to change. And I'm sure they still have to work at staying the way they are now.

    I guess this man decided he wanted out of the gay lifestyle. What's wrong with that? He wanted to live like a heterosexual man and have a family the natural way. I guess it can be done, he did it. Why are homosexuals mad when anyone leaves that lifestyle and starts to live heterosexual. It's there life like the gays would say about themselves.

    I'm not saying these things, I'm reporting them. Don't shoot the messanger. The church condemns anyone who would hurt or mistreat gays in any way but that does not stop them from saying gay lifestyles are wrong. If you are gay then live the celebate life, it can be done.

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    You know I used to think Falwell was the most self righteous, judegmental ass I had ever seen until I saw you post.


    And for the record the title should read Oh My Lord.

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