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    6 TV shows we think are doomed ..crap! I watch 2 of them:(

    We hate to say any show is doomed. We know people's jobs are at stake. But we have to be painfully honest.

    This has been a great season for comedies, but a tough one for dramas. And so we're preparing our goodbyes for six shows whose ratings just don't give us much confidence in their futures. (We don't add shows to this list lightly; the last time we made one, we went six-for-six in our predictions.)

    Bing: 'Martha Stewart Show' canceled

    Here are the shows we think are doomed. May all of them prove us wrong.

    "The Finder" (Fox)


    It might seem incredibly presumptuous to predict the loss of "The Finder" after two episodes. We don't think so. The "Bones" spinoff premiered Jan. 12 to a very soft 1.7 rating in the crucial 18-49 demographic and 5.5 million viewers. It improved to a 2.2 rating and 6.7 million total viewers in its second week.

    But that second week improvement came after a lead-in from "American Idol," the biggest show on television, which on the same night had a 5.7 rating and 14 million viewers. It's not promising that a show connected to the very reliable "Bones" and following the mighty "Idol" is off to such a slow start.

    "The Firm" (NBC)

    We expect "The Firm" to finish out its season. And that will be an accomplishment, given ratings even worse than those of "The Playboy Club," which NBC canceled after just three episodes.

    Why do we expect the John Grisham adaptation to soldier on? Because it's cheap for NBC to air. The show's production partners, Sony and Entertainment One, sold "The Firm" to international networks to cover almost the entire cost of production before they sold it to NBC. That means NBC pays a much lower licensing fee for the series than it normally would.

    It's an intriguing model that could make sense for future shows. But it's hard to imagine even the fourth-place network signing up for another season of "The Firm," given that it's averaging a mere 1.3 rating.

    Also read: Fox Chief Says 'Terra Nova' Was 'Hunting' Creatively, 'Fringe' Losing Money for Network

    "A Gifted Man" (CBS)


    CBS has low tolerance for low ratings. And while the Fridays-at-8 time slot for "A Gifted Man" has been anything but a gift, the show's 1.3 average rating is still dismal. Its 8.2 million total viewers are impressive considering how poorly it does in the 18-49 demo, but we're confident that CBS is confident that it can do better with something else next season, if not sooner.

    We'd say it's time for CBS to finally schedule the midseason cop drama "NYC 22," from Richard Price ("Clockers," "The Wire"). But we don't want to wish a Friday time slot on any show, especially one that looks so promising.

    "Pan Am" (ABC)


    We know you may be thinking this was already canceled. Not quite.

    We enjoy "Pan Am" (pictured above). We like the unapologetic nostalgia, the easy breeziness of it all, the sense that the attractive, pleasant-enough characters are never in any real danger. It's truly diverting.

    But the lack of drama -- and our lack of fear for the characters -- also makes "Pan Am" feel very much like a one-season show. There's nothing grabbing viewers and demanding we watch. The show's 2.5 average rating feels just right ... not at all embarrassing, but not compelling enough to keep the show going, either.

    "Pan Am" looked doomed a month ago, when one of its stars, Karine Vanasse, tweeted about receiving "THE call" and said "Pan Am" would only air one more episode in 2012. ABC quickly clarified that the show only wanted "Pan Am" to shoot one of five new scripts it had ordered, but that the show wasn't canceled and remained in contention for a second season pickup.

    It won't happen unless ABC's midseason shows bomb. We don't think they will. One of them, "GCB," takes over the Sundays-at-10 "Pan Am" timeslot beginning March 4.

    "Fringe" (Fox)

    Fox entertainment president Kevin Reilly said at the Television Critics winter press tour this month that Fox was losing money on "Fringe," though he stressed that it has not been canceled. "Please don't start the letter-writing campaign right now," he joked. "I can't handle it."

    We don't think a letter writing campaign would help.

    Networks know Fridays are ratings hell, so they stock them with shows whose fans will follow them to hell. "Fringe" and its loyal viewers have nobly struggled there throughout the season, earning an average 1.4 rating for this perennial bubble show. We strongly expect that struggle to end with this season.

    "Fringe" was one of many shows that have tried to recapture the mystery of J.J. Abrams' "Lost." But Fox has a new "Lost" successor in "Alcatraz," which has the same intelligent, mysterious qualities as Abrams' "Fringe" while earning much better ratings, at least so far. ("Alcatraz" is also performing well in a tough time slot, 9 on Mondays, against CBS hits "Two and a Half Men" and "Mike & Molly.)

    "Body of Proof" (ABC)


    The Dana Delany medical examiner drama was a midseason hit last year, but this year has averaged only a 2.1 rating. We're including it on this list with one caveat: We expect "The River," which will lead into "Body of Proof" on Tuesday nights, to succeed. It fills a drama-horror niche that "Walking Dead" and few other shows do.

    If it thrives, it may be able to lift "Proof" as well, though the two shows are probably too different for it to make any difference.

    We'll find out soon. "The River" premieres Feb. 7 with a two-hour episode, then settles into its Tuesdays-at-9 timeslot ahead of "Body of Proof" on Feb. 14. Maybe it will be a Valentine's Day present

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    I liked The Finder too. I was looking forward to it when they had The Finder on Bones, although I wished they would've kept the British girl that was in the Bones episode.
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    I've never heard of any of them except Pan Am. And just buy the few commercials I saw, kinda figured it would be a flop.

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    I love Gifted man and the Firm...

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    I *love* Fringe... I don't give a rats behind if it's loosing money, I'm gonna be pissed right off if they cancel it. I have really been enjoying The Firm so I'm sad it's on the bubble... but really, not a whole lot of new shows can compete with American Idol... a show I think has seriously run it's course... blech. And I've watched Body of Proof since the first episode. I'm kind of bummed it might be going away but there really isn't much of a continuing story line to keep up with, so at least I won't have to worry about them killing it mid arc.
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    I like A Gifted Man and Body of Proof. I'll be sad to see them go.

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    I'm a big fan of Gifted Man and Pan Am. I used to watch Body of Proof but it got to be too repetitive and boring. I watched The Finder on an episode of Bones (which I really like), but found it uninteresting, so I never actually watched the show. Since I don't get The Hallmark Channel, I won't miss Martha. IF I got The Hallmark Channel, I wouldn't miss Martha.
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    Fox Chief Says 'Terra Nova' Was 'Hunting' Creatively
    Why Terra Nova failed: 4 theories
    Steven Spielberg's $20 million dino drama premiered this fall with gargantuan buzz. So why is it being cancelled?

    By The Week's Editorial Staff – 8 hrs ago


    The Fox drama Terra Nova debuted last fall with Steven Spielberg as producer, a $20-million pilot, CGI dinosaurs, a relentless promotional campaign, and perhaps the most buzz of any new series. Yet the show premiered to a so-so 9 million viewers, and averaged a not-stellar, not-abysmal 7 million viewers for its season. Now, Fox has officially decided to cancel the ambitious series. What went wrong? Here, four theories:

    1. The story was bad In the lead up to its debut, Terra Nova bragged effectively about its expensive effects and launched a publicity campaign "that could only have been more intense were one of the dinosaurs played by Katharine McPhee," says James Poniewozik at TIME, but the show, quite simply, wasn't any good. It was essentially "a C-grade time travel story that would make Ray Bradbury chortle dismissively," says Darren Franich at Entertainment Weekly. As the series trudged along, it continued to grow detrimentally self-serious, and was brought down by baffling conspiracy plot lines.


    2. "Big movie-style budgets don't work on television" As Transformers and a bevy of poorly-written, effects-heavy blockbusters have taught us, movie audiences are willing to sit through essentially bad films because they "can't help but be captivated by the sheer amount of money onscreen," says Franich. Though the funds channelled into Terra Nova were disproportionately large for a TV show, they didn't translate into the same hypnotic sheen; the show still "looked terrible." From the spotty CGI dinosaurs to the cheap-looking sets, the show couldn't "compare to a typical two-hour blockbuster movie."

    3. It tried to be too many things The show's executive producer avowed that Terra Nova "is for everybody. Everyone from my kids to a gamer to my dad will love this show." What a doomed oversell, says Tim Kenneally at The Wrap. No show that "promises to be everything to everybody" could possibly deliver. Indeed, the series' kitchen sink approach baffled viewers. "Was this a family drama? A prehistoric action-adventure series? A sci-fi program?" High turnover among the show's writers didn't help. "Too many cooks and too many ingredients left Terra Nova veering week to week" between environmental preaching, Jurassic Park ambition, Lost-like conspiracy theory, and underdeveloped character drama.

    4. The age of sci-fi on TV may be over Attempts to replicate the success of the epic Lost have failed, says Poniewozik, leading most networks to focus on "small-scale, real-world shows" with minor sci-fi twists or fantasy themes, like Person of Interest, Alcatraz, or Once Upon a Time. Viewers have been responding, turning those shows into modest hits. The "epic-scale, effects-intensive" Terra Nova, on the other hand, was out of step with trends. The question moving forward, says Alyssa Rosenberg at Think Progress, is whether networks can "think more creatively about communicating" futuristic stories "without using a lot, or any, special effects."

    http://news.yahoo.com/why-terra-nova...130200080.html

    They failed to develope the charchters into people we cared about.

    Dinosaurs don't work on TV. They barely work in the movies. You just can't buy into people running from dinosaurs. You want to do sci fi? Forget the dinosaurs, forget the "big bang" space wars. Read some stories by Heinlein, Clarke, Niven. You'll get an idea of what sci fi is really all about. Note, two recent movies based on Isaac Asimov books (Bicentennial Man and I Robot) have done pretty well. Sci fi is not about special effects. It's about the effects of different technologies on human society. That's why Star Trek TNG worked so well. The stories were about PEOPLE, not gadgets. Not alien monsters. People.

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    Why can't we cancel the real crap like .....American Idol, The Voice, The Amazing Race, Dancing With The Stars, Survivor, Jersey Shore and anything with the Kardashians?

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    The showed failed because its on a network run by idiots. I remind you this is the same network that canceled Firefly. They prefer to run garbage reality shows they can produce on the cheap so of course they can not justify a quality show. Reality shows have destroyed TV.

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    And they cancelled it just when it was beginning to take shape and get interesting.

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    I'd tend to agree with #1 and the fact that Fox failed to support or promote the show after the premiere...the Gargantuan Buzz was only all #$%$ summer long until we got to see the first episode then nothing but the usual lame network promos. Fox is horrible at promoting it's shows. I currently love "The Finder" but only because I stumbled on it channel surfing one night. Now it's already bumped to Fridays because Fox doesn't know how to promote well written and well acted shows that aren't a crap reality show.

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    Written like a teen age soap opera, very predictable and no promotion after premiere.

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    It was a reasonably entertaining show with reasonably interesting characters and reasonably good special effects and production design. Sadly, at that sort of budget, "reasonably…" doesn't cut it. And, with that kind of cost tag, the show needed to reach the widest possible audience, i.e. the lowest common denominator.

    'As a motion picture [or TV] budget approaches infinity, the intelligence needed to understand that project approaches zero.'
    -- Massawyrm, paraphrasing Einstein

    "Terra Nova" will go down as a textbook study in self-destructive financing. And, if I had my druthers, I'd sooner see this show go down than have Fox cancel "Fringe" (probably the most *authentic* science fiction show on the air right now).

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    7 million viewers warrants a cancellation? That's incredible.

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    I think it failed because there was no sex, no bad language and no violence. Those 3 things seem to be the main criteria for today's entertainment. I, for one, will miss the show. I enjoyed it.[/i]
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    Alan Tudyk Wants The Full Firefly Cast On His New Series Con Man

    By Jessica Rawden 17 hours ago




    Just a few weeks ago, Firefly alums Alan Tudyk and Nathan Fillion put together an awesome viral campaign to jumpstart a new TV project called Con Man. The campaign was incredibly successful, and Con Man is already moving forward. Now, Tudyk has revealed that he would eventually like to see all of the main Firefly cast members return to the show for roles.

    Everybody has committed to being in Con Man. I don't want to waste their cameos. So, I'm hoping for a second season to put them all in. Right now, it's just Sean and Gina in the first season. Possibly more. The others will be Where's Waldo? type cameos.
    So, the great news is that Alan Tudyk has already talked to the major members of the Firefly cast, which include Gina Torres, Morena Baccarin, Sean Maher, Adam Baldwin, Summer Glau, Jewel Staite and Ron Glass. The extra good news, according to Tudyk's AMA, is that Tudyk and Fillion are going to star in Con Man, and Torres and Maher have already signed on for roles in the new webseries. For now, it seems the others will be around in some background form, but will not have real roles. So, Tudyk seems to be hoping to prove the concept is a big enough success that more money can be raised for a second season and more big guest stints or roles can be assigned to the former Firefly crew.

    Honestly, Con Man would be the perfect fit for a Firefly reunion. The new webseries is all about Wray Nerely and Jack Moore (Tudyk and Fillion), who were actors on a beloved science fiction series called Spectrum which was cancelled too soon but later gained a cult following. The title is short for “Convention Man,” but obviously that would be less cool. With the cheeky premise in mind, it’s no surprise that Con Man might want to nod at popular science fiction references, TV shows and actors. It’s very reminiscent of the times Fillion and co. have nodded at Firefly in his ABC drama, Castle.



    In addition to the Firefly alums, a bunch of other well-known actors and actresses associated with Syfy gigs have also signed on. This includes Battlestar Galactica alums Tricia Helfer and Michael Trucco and The Walking Dead’s Emily Kinney, whose final episode on the AMC zombie drama was a hot topic during the midwinter finale this year.

    Thanks to a great Indiegogo campaign, Con Man is definitely moving forward. We’ll let you know when it gets a premiere date. In the meantime, you can check out Alan Tudyk's entire Reddit AMA. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment..._us_questions/


    http://www.cinemablend.com/televisio...Man-71177.html
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