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    3 things Obama's plan will do on guns and 3 things it won't
    On Politics Paul Singer, USA TODAY 11:15 a.m. EST January 5, 2016



    If Americans were waiting for President Obama to use his executive authority to totally shut the "gun show loophole" or ban assault weapons, they may be disappointed by the initiative the White House unveiled Monday. The White House instead rolled out a batch of narrowly tailored administrative actions that may have more to do with lawyers than guns.

    Here are three things that are in the package (according to the White House fact sheet):

    • Hiring more people to run the FBI background check system, so the government can be "processing background checks 24 hours a day, 7 days a week."

    • Requesting from Congress an additional $500 million to increase access to mental health care.

    • Clarifying that people selling guns over the Internet can still be required to conduct background checks on buyers if they are "engaged in the business" of selling guns, not just a hobbyist.

    And here's the stuff discussed in the days before the announcement that is NOT in the package:

    • A requirement that every gun sale in the country is proceeded by a criminal background check.

    • A ban on gun sales to people on terrorist "no-fly" lists.

    • A ban on large capacity magazines that hold a lot of bullets.

    The reason for the difference is that the administration does not believe it has authority under existing laws to do the bigger stuff. So they are using administrative actions to squeeze the stuff out of the corners of existing laws.

    Here are the details of the initiative from the White House. https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016...ut-wrong-hands
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    AG Lynch Explains Obama’s Gun-Control: Gov’t Looking For ‘Individuals Who Seek To Avoid Registering’by AWR Hawkins4 Jan 20163,031


    “We will be looking for those individuals who seek to avoid registering,” Attorney General Loretta Lynch told reporters following a Jan. 4 meeting with President Obama regarding executive gun control.

    Lynch was referencing the portion of Obama’s pending executive-action gun-control measure that will require gun-sellers to register as federally licensed gun dealers if they meet criteria demonstrating they are “engaged in the business of dealing in firearms.”

    This language also means that private sellers registered as federally licensed dealers will have to perform a background check on every sale.

    One problem is that the White House executive action fact sheet does not present any numerical minimum on the number of sales that a private seller must conduct before he is considered to be “engaged in the business of dealing in firearms.” https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...e-and-make-our

    Rather, it indicates a private seller can be considered to be “engaged in the business of selling firearms” regardless of the location from which she sells, the frequency with which he sells, or the number of guns ahe sells.

    In light of this, CBS News reports that Attorney General Loretta Lynch is making it known that the ATF will be watching and looking for private sellers who “seek to avoid registering” as being “engaged in the business of selling firearms.” http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-mo...ground-checks/

    Lynch stressed that an “exception” remains for “the hobbyist and collector,” but the executive order means private sellers cannot continue to “hide behind that [exception].”

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    Statement on President Obama's Proposed Executive Actions on Gun Control

    Tuesday, January 5, 2016

    Fairfax, Va. – The executive director of the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action, Chris W. Cox, released the following statement on Tuesday regarding President Barack Obama's Executive Gun Control Order:

    Once again, President Obama has chosen to engage in political rhetoric, instead of offering meaningful solutions to our nation's pressing problems. Today's event also represents an ongoing attempt to distract attention away from his lack of a coherent strategy to keep the American people safe from terrorist attack.

    The American people do not need more emotional, condescending lectures that are completely devoid of facts. The men and women of the National Rifle Association take a back seat to no one when it comes to keeping our communities safe. But the fact is that President Obama's proposals would not have prevented any of the horrific events he mentioned. The timing of this announcement, in the eighth and final year of his presidency, demonstrates not only political exploitation but a fundamental lack of seriousness.

    The proposed executive actions are ripe for abuse by the Obama Administration, which has made no secret of its contempt for the Second Amendment. The NRA will continue to fight to protect the fundamental, individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms as guaranteed under our Constitution. We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be harassed or intimidated for engaging in lawful, constitutionally-protected activity – nor will we allow them to become scapegoats for President Obama's failed policies.

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    White House Spokesman Says Executive Action on Guns Worth it,
    Even if it Only Prevents ‘1 or 2 Shootings’

    Michael Cantrell
    January 4, 2016


    When it comes to the collective hive mind that makes up the progressive Obama administration, there’s simply no assault on constitutional rights too great to get in the way of their vision of a socialist Utopia.

    Take for example the president’s latest steps to trample the Constitution under foot by creating executive orders concerning gun control.

    Josh Earnest recently said the whole focus of the orders is to prevent guns from getting in the ‘wrong hands’ even if it only prevents one or two shootings.

    In other words, all of these tragedies were exactly what liberals were hoping for in order to justify banning guns.

    Sad times.

    Transcript:

    “What the president is focused on in the context of this exercise is very directly on what steps this administration can take to keep guns out of the wrong hands. And we’re not under the illusion that that is going to prevent every incident of gun violence. But if it’s possible that we could prevent even one or two incidents of gun violence, then we’re going to eagerly implement those executive actions, and that’s exactly what the president’s focused on.”
    I’ll end this little number with two words: molon labe.

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    Illinois has back ground checks for gun shows,waiting periods .... even Obama says his executive actions won't stop criminals.so his only goal is to stop law abiding citizens. Chicago has the strictest gun laws. The city is not only the OB's home, but his former chief of staff and fellow communist is the Friggin Mayor. How has all of this uber lib control benefitted anyone in Chicago?!

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    2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments Violated By Obama Gun Control Order
    Adam Lankford January 5, 2016


    Obama Calls Constitution “Piece of Paper” Orders New Gun Control

    As we reported, 2016 is going to be one extremely devastating year to the United States and Obama has promised not to disappoint. His first order of business in his final year in office, is an all out full assault on the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the United States. In what is sure to be a legal battle to come, the Gun Control order doesn’t only regulate that all firearms sales from Private Booth renters at Gun Shows require a background check for transfer, but it doesn’t specify whether or not it applies to individuals selling and trading amongst friends and family. Some people have a lot of friends and family…which brings the question of being able to enforce the order, which in some liberal states and counties, law enforcement are foaming at the mouth to be able to prosecute gun owners. Although the SCOTUS has repeatedly and consistently upheld and validated the 2nd Amendment, Obama seems to think that it still has some shredding he can do when it comes to firearms in the United States. In his speech, he constantly referenced high capacity magazines and semi automatic firearms as his ultimate goal, but that Congress doesn’t have the backbone to do anything about them.

    His next order of business in the Gun Control law was to strip due process and privacy away from citizens that visit certain medical offices by including in patient records whether or not the person is a firearms owner. If the patient refuses to check the box that asks about firearms, they are considered immediately suspicious and could be reported for mental health instability. If they answer yes, they do have firearms, they are also considered suspicious and the doctors office can notify authorities. In either case, the personal possession of firearms is now a requirement on patient forms and your refusal to tell the doctor or nurse about your firearms, could lead to an alphabet agency knocking on your front door. So much for privacy and due process…

    Lastly, if the alphabet agency agrees with whatever the patient records or medical professionals deem relevant to firearms ownership to cause for credible concern, the agency can seize your firearms since you are a threat or considered mentally unstable. So much for illegal search and seizure…

    The RAW Scoop is this. We are obviously summarizing and interpreting the law for it’s main goals and intentions. The liberal media will spin this as a minor step and preach “common sense gun safety laws”, but the reality is, this is simply just another step in the process to disarm America. Since all criminals will follow these laws, we should see a dramatic decrease in Gun Violence after these new orders go in to effect next month. If you haven’t picked up on my sarcasm yet…concentrate. The point is, this will do absolutely nothing to stop gun violence and will only make the government stronger and the people weaker. I invite you all to read the Federalist Papers. I am not going to explain what they are, but you will thank me afterwards if you haven’t already read them.

    Obama is playing a very dangerous game with this tyrannical style of government and the consequences could be catastrophic. Who knows, maybe that is his ultimate plan all along. The liberty movement is only get more and more frustrated with these attacks on the Bill of Rights and the tension is getting thicker and thicker with every passing day. We are smarter than the government, so it is time we start acting like it and elect representatives that care about God given rights and the pursuit of happiness. Civil unrest is almost palpable and with this never ending assault and demonization of Conservatives and Christians, we have to remain calm. What are your thoughts?

    https://rawconservative.com/2016/01/...utionshreader/
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    Obama CLAIMS he has no plans for mass gun confiscation NOW, but…

    Written by The Analytical Economist on January 8, 2016

    Obama is ramping up the rhetoric on gun control.

    He stated in his speech Tuesday outlining his executive orders on gun control: “Contrary to the claims of what some gun rights proponents have suggested, this has not been the first step in some slippery slope to mass confiscation. Contrary to claims of some presidential candidates, apparently before this meeting, this is not a plot to take away everybody’s guns. You pass a background check, you purchase a firearm.”

    But people wouldn’t be crazy to believe that Obama does secretly support gun confiscation, because as Breitbart pointed out, Obama has made statements supporting confiscation in the past.

    On two occasions in the past two years Obama pointed to Australia as a successful model for gun control – a nation which did undertake a gun confiscation scheme under the guise of a gun buyback.

    Barack Obama, June 2014: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-8i9...ature=youtu.be

    Couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting, similar to Columbine or Newtown. And Australia just said, well, that’s it, we’re not doing, we’re not seeing that again, and basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws, and they haven’t had a mass shooting since. Our levels of gun violence are off the charts. There’s no advanced, developed country that would put up with this.
    Barack Obama, June 2015: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...hootings-in-us

    “When Australia had a mass killing – I think it was in Tasmania – about 25 years ago, it was just so shocking the entire country said ‘well we’re going to completely change our gun laws’, and they did. And it hasn’t happened since.” …

    “I don’t foresee any legislative action being taken in this Congress,” he said. “And I don’t foresee any real action until the American public feels a sufficient sense of urgency and they say to themselves, ‘This is not normal, this is something that we can change and we’re going to change it’.”

    Obama also lamented the rush of Americans who go and buy firearms after US shootings and the “extremely strong” grip the powerful lobby group the National Rifle Association has on Congress.
    As for the truth of his claims, Australia is hardly a successful model for gun control. As Ann Coulter writes on Australia’s gun control: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/ann...-killing-malar

    After the gun ban, gun homicides in Australia did not decline any more than they were expected to without a gun ban.

    Thus, for example, according to the Australian Institute of Criminology, the homicide rate has been in steady decline from 1969 to the present, with only one marked uptick in 1998-99 — right after the gun ban was enacted.

    The showstopper for anti-gun activists is the fact that suicides by firearm seemed to decrease more than expected after the 1997 gun ban.

    But so did suicides by other means. Something other than the gun ban must have caused people to stop guzzling poison and jumping off bridges. (Some speculate that it’s the availability of anti-depressants like Prozac.)
    And for the claim that Australia was able to stamp out mass shootings after their gun ban? If we include a control group, not so fast:

    New Zealand is strikingly similar to Australia. Both are isolated island nations, demographically and socioeconomically similar. Their mass murder rate before Australia’s gun ban was nearly identical: From 1980 to 1996, Australia’s mass murder rate was 0.0042 incidents per 100,000 people and New Zealand’s was 0.0050 incidents per 100,000 people.

    The principal difference is that, post-1997, New Zealand remained armed to the teeth — including with guns that were suddenly banned in Australia.

    While it’s true that Australia has had no more mass shootings since its gun ban, neither has New Zealand, despite continuing to be massively armed.
    So Obama has in fact previously called for gun confiscation – and the example he cites proves that even that wouldn’t work any better than the gun control executive orders he’s currently defending.

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    Biden: ‘The Second Amendment Says You Can Limit Who Can Own a Gun’
    Posted By: BMartin1776 January 11, 2016


    Thank God Crazy Joe isn’t running for POTUS! It was nice of him to give “advice” to Bernie Sanders but the Second Amendment does not limit who can own a gun anywhere in it. Granted we want to keep them away from the nuts and violent criminals as he suggests but don’t go around making statements like this that get progressive anti-gun lobby all charged up.

    The Second Amendment is the only Amendment the Founders put a DO NOT TOUCH clause into,
    “… shall not be infringed.”
    The Founders knew from studying other governments that no matter what they did tyrants would rise even in the govt they were creating. They gave us 2A as the final check and balance when all other means to address our discourse failed against a tyrannical govt. The Second Amendment was never about hunting or sport, nor limited to muskets. To suggest such foolery would also mean they meant pamphlets and newspapers were only protected in the First Amendment!

    Read the Founders words the people are in fact the militia. Sorry libs we don’t go by your 20th/ 21st century interpretation and definition of words either. There was no limit on who could own a weapon or what kind frankly. They wanted us as well armed as the govt to overt tyranny, period.

    If you libs don’t like it then stop with chipping away with regs that will come to a head someday instead do what you really want to do, introduce a bill to repeal the Second Amendment. You think the nation supports your anti-gun agenda then lets have the debate and vote once and for all!



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    What part of this is so hard to understand ?
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