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    Re: Pelosi & a "question of ethics"

    URS and McClellan

    URS dwarfs Perini. With more than 100 subsidiaries, it employs nearly 30,000 engineers and workers worldwide. The firm's largest customer is the U.S. Army, from which it booked $791 million in work in 2005 out of a total revenue of $3.9 billion.

    URS is not just a construction company; it also develops and maintains advanced weapons systems. In 2002, URS purchased weaponry firm EG&G Technical Services from the Carlyle Group, in which former President George H.W. Bush was a principal. But as profitable as its arms dealing division is, URS reports that its growth sectors are military construction, homeland security and environmental services for military sites under existing Defense Department contracts.

    According to a database of federal procurement records made available for this investigation by Eagle Eye Publishers of Fairfax, Va., URS's military construction work in 2000 earned it a mere $24 million. The next year, when Feinstein took over as MILCON chair, military construction earned URS $185 million. On top of that, the company's architectural and engineering revenue from military construction projects grew from $108,726 in 2000 to $142 million in 2001, more than a thousandfold increase in a single year.

    As Congress gave the Bush administration the green light on military spending after 9/11, the value of Blum's investment in URS skyrocketed. Between 2003 and 2005, URS' share price doubled. In late 2005, Blum resigned from the URS board of directors, after 30 years as a member. Simultaneously, he sold 5.5 million URS shares, worth about $220 million at market price.

    The Congressional Record shows that in year after year of MILCON hearings, Feinstein successfully lobbied defense officials to increase the budget for military base cleanup and redevelopment, especially at the decommissioned McClellan Air Force Base. The detoxification of McClellan is a plum job: it is estimated to cost $1.3 billion and take many years to complete. There is, of course, nothing unusual about a senator advocating for projects that improve environmental health, particularly when the project is in her home state; and the Pentagon is notoriously lax about cleaning up its Superfund sites.

    It turns out, though, that URS specializes in environmental consulting and engineering work at military installations. It holds a $69 million contract to manage the cleanup of Hill Air Force Base in Utah, which was awarded in 2004. It has a $320 million contract to remediate pollution at U.S. Army bases in the United States and the Caribbean, which was awarded in 2005. And from 2000 to 2005, URS and its partners were paid $204 million for work at McClellan Air Force Base, according to Eagle Eye.

    At a MILCON hearing in 2001, Feinstein cited the environmental work at McClellan as needing more money. "That is a base that I am very familiar with, and I am glad that we were able to provide that funding so that work at McClellan can proceed," she said. Feinstein then asked for and received detailed information concerning the Pentagon's projected schedule to finish the McClellan cleanup and the effect of delaying cleanup upon its potential for commercial reuse.

    At a MILCON hearing in March 2002, Chairwoman Feinstein interrogated Assistant Secretary of Defense Nelson F. Gibbs:

    Sen. Feinstein: Is the Air Force capable of executing greater [cleanup] funding in 2003 at McClellan?
    Mr. Gibbs: Yes, ma'am.
    Feinstein: And how much would that be? How about $22 million?
    Gibbs: That would be very close. That would be almost exact as a matter of fact. ... If you would like, I can provide for you a list of those individual projects.
    Feinstein: I would. If you would not mind. Thank you very much.
    The next week, Gibbs sent Feinstein a memo showing the addition of $23 million to the McClellan environmental budget, mostly for groundwater remediation, URS' specialty.

    In the 2003 MILCON hearings, Feinstein told Dov S. Zakheim, then the Defense Department comptroller, that she "was really struck by the hit that environmental remediation [at McClellan Air Force Base] took. ... However, I have just [received] a list from the Air Force of what they could use to clean up ... McClellan, and one other base, and it is 64 million additional dollars this year."

    Dr. Zakheim replied, "Well, let me first say that I remember your concern last year, and I am glad that we took care of [McClellan]. That is important."

    Feinstein remarked that the Pentagon had already spent $7 billion on environmental cleanup of closed bases, and that another $3.5 billion should be immediately allocated so that the clean bases can be transferred to the private sector. Demonstrating her grasp of technical details, she remarked, "I am particularly concerned with the dilapidated condition of the sewer line at McClellan that continues to impede significant economic redevelopment of the base."

    That is where CB Richard Ellis comes in.

    The real estate firm is politically well-connected. Sen. Feinstein's husband chairs the board of directors. Bill Clinton's secretary of commerce, Michael Kantor, joined in 2004. Former Senate Majority Leader Thomas A. Daschle signed on in 2005. The firm specializes in consulting with local governments and developers from California to Puerto Rico on how best to redevelop cleaned-up military bases. It also brokers the sale and lease of redeveloped base lands to the private sector. Since Blum took over CB Richard Ellis, for example, the company has closed deals leasing tens of thousands of square feet of commercial space on cleaned-up portions of McClellan to private developers.

    In a 2003 MILCON hearing, Sacramento County redevelopment official Robert B. Leonard told Feinstein, "We wanted to express our appreciation for your efforts over the last year in supporting our needs at McClellan." During the five years that Feinstein led the subcommittee, support for the McClellan cleanup and the redevelopment deals were particular focuses of her attention.

    URS declined to comment for this story. The sole comment that Feinstein's office made in response to a series of written questions about facts in this story is that "Sen. Feinstein has never had any knowledge nor has she exercised any influence on the award of environmental cleanup contracts under the jurisdiction of the Military Construction Appropriations Subcommittee."
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    Re: Pelosi & a "question of ethics"

    Let the Sunlight In

    Last week, the Senate voted to close some significant loopholes in its ethics rules. But it stopped short of creating an office of public integrity, which would independently monitor lobbyists and members of Congress for ethical compliance. Setting her own limits on the extent of reform she will countenance, Feinstein says she is opposed to the creation of an independent congressional ethics watchdog. "If the law is clear and precise, members will follow it," she assured The New York Times on Nov. 18, 2006.

    The problem with the existing rules governing congressional ethics is that they are neither clear nor precise, and neither are they effective. Senate rules governing conflicts of interest are so vaguely worded, say government watchdogs, that short of stashing cash bribes in the refrigerator, the line between serving constituents and serving oneself is often blurred. The public record shows that Feinstein has a history of crossing that blurry line.

    Charles Tiefer is a professor of law specializing in legislation and government contracting at the University of Baltimore in Maryland. He served as solicitor and deputy counsel to the House of Representatives for 11 years. He has taught at Yale Law School and written books on congressional procedures and separation of powers. Tiefer observes that, unlike the executive and judiciary branches of government, Congress does not have enforceable conflict of interest rules. It is up to Sen. Feinstein's constituents, Tiefer says, to decide if she has a conflict of interest and to take whatever action they want. To make that possible, Feinstein should have publicly disclosed the details of her family investments in Perini, URS and CB Richard Ellis as they related to her actions on MILCON. Tiefer avers that when Klein gave Feinstein lists of Perini's interests, he worsened her conflict of interest.

    "The senator should, at a minimum, have posted Klein's lists on her Senate website, so that the press and the public would be warned of her potential conflicts," Tiefer says, noting that she should also make public her correspondence with the Senate Ethics Committee.

    As the arbiter of Senate rules on ethics, it is incumbent on Feinstein to provide the public with an explanation of why she did not recuse herself from acting on MILCON details that served her financial interests, and why she failed to resign from the subcommittee after she recognized the potential for conflicts of interest, which, unfortunately, materialized in an obvious way and over a long period of time.

    http://www.metroactive.com/metro/01....tein-0704.html



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    Pelosi seeks tougher oversight on ethics
    By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer
    Wed Feb 21, 6:14 PM ET


    WASHINGTON - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for tighter ethics rules in federal agencies Wednesday after government officials approved the purchase of a $980,000 vacation home by a top Justice Department lawyer with an oil company lobbyist.

    Pelosi's criticism followed an Associated Press report last week that department ethics officials did not object when Sue Ellen Wooldridge, then head of the environment division, was buying a South Carolina beach house with Donald R. Duncan, the top Washington lobbyist for ConocoPhillips.

    "If in fact Ms. Wooldridge got such a pass from the ethics committee of the executive branch, then certainly the executive branch ethics process needs a look as well," Pelosi, D-Calif., said when asked about the house purchase at a San Francisco news conference.

    Nine months after the purchase, Wooldridge approved an agreement that allowed ConocoPhillips an extension of pollution cleanup requirements at some of the company's refineries. The company says Duncan was not part of those negotiations.

    Department officials and a lawyer for Wooldridge, who resigned from the job in January, said the department's ethics office approved the arrangement and told her she did not need to withdraw from dealings with ConocoPhillips.

    The third buyer of the Kiawah Island, S.C., home was Wooldridge's companion, former Deputy Interior Secretary J. Steven Griles. He is the highest-ranking Bush administration official facing possible criminal charges in the Jack Abramoff corruption probe.

    The Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility is looking into the home purchase and consent decrees, Acting Assistant Attorney General Richard Hertling said in a letter Friday to Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

    Conyers had asked for an explanation and documents related to the purchase after the AP report. The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee also is monitoring the case.

    ___

    Associated Press writer Scott Lindlaw contributed to this report from San Francisco.

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    Re: Pelosi & a "question of ethics"

    Feinstein Resigns
    Senator exits MILCON following Metro exposé, vet-care scandal

    By Peter Byrne


    SEN. Dianne Feinstein has resigned from the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee. As previously and extensively reviewed in these pages, Feinstein was chairperson and ranking member of MILCON for six years, during which time she had a conflict of interest due to her husband Richard C. Blum's ownership of two major defense contractors, who were awarded billions of dollars for military construction projects approved by Feinstein.

    As MILCON leader, Feinstein relished the details of military construction, even micromanaging one project at the level of its sewer design. She regularly took junkets to military bases around the world to inspect construction projects, some of which were contracted to her husband's companies, Perini Corp. and URS Corp.

    Perhaps she resigned from MILCON because she could not take the heat generated by Metro's expose of her ethics (which was partially funded by the Investigative Fund of the Nation Institute). Or was her work on the subcommittee finished because Blum divested ownership of his military construction and advanced weapons manufacturing firms in late 2005?

    The MILCON subcommittee is not only in charge of supervising military construction, it also oversees "quality of life" issues for veterans, which includes building housing for military families and operating hospitals and clinics for wounded soldiers. Perhaps Feinstein is trying to disassociate herself from MILCON's incredible failure to provide decent medical care for wounded soldiers.

    Two years ago, before the Washington Post became belatedly involved, the online magazine Salon.com exposed the horrors of deficient medical care for Iraq war veterans. While leading MILCON, Feinstein had ample warning of the medical-care meltdown. But she was not proactive on veteran's affairs.

    Feinstein abandoned MILCON as her ethical problems were surfacing in the media, and as it was becoming clear that her subcommittee left grievously wounded veterans to rot while her family was profiting from the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. It turns out that Blum also holds large investments in companies that were selling medical equipment and supplies and real estate leases—often without the benefit of competitive bidding—to the Department of Veterans Affairs, even as the system of medical care for veterans collapsed on his wife's watch.

    As of December 2006, according to SEC filings and www.fedspending.org, three corporations in which Blum's financial entities own a total of $1 billion in stock won considerable favor from the budgets of the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs:

    * Boston Scientific Corporation: $17.8 million for medical equipment and supplies; 85 percent of contracts awarded without benefit of competition.

    * Kinetic Concepts Inc.: $12 million, medical equipment and supplies; 28 percent noncompetitively awarded.

    * CB Richard Ellis: The Blum-controlled international real estate firm holds congressionally funded contracts to lease office space to the Department of Veterans Affairs. It also is involved in redeveloping military bases turned over to the private sector.


    You would think that, considering all the money Feinstein's family has pocketed by waging global warfare while ignoring the plight of wounded American soldiers, she would show a smidgeon of shame and resign from the entire Senate, not just a subcommittee. Conversely, you'd think she might stick around MILCON to try and fix the medical-care disaster she helped to engineer for the vets who were suckered into fighting her and Bush's panoply of unjust wars.

    http://www.metroactive.com/metro/03....igns-0712.html
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    Question Re: Pelosi & a "question of ethics"

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    A question of ethics
    By Jonathan Turley
    Tue Nov 14, 6:33 AM ET


    In her first statement after the Democratic takeover of the House, the presumptive new speaker, Nancy Pelosi of California, pledged that her party would create "the most honest, the most open and the most ethical Congress in history."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/200...estionofethics

    How's that house-cleaning coming along, Nancy?

    Well, well, well. Remember left-wing, sleazebag loon Jim McDermott, the Democrats' favorite hypocritical wire-tapper? There's breaking news on his decade-old case :
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070501/...kqtpUv6JM8KbIF


    Meanwhile, David Keene follows up on the Feinstein Milcon story in The Hill:

    http://thehill.com/david-keene/feins...007-04-30.html

    http://www.bigbigforums.com/news-inf...n#post95575957
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    Re: Pelosi & a "question of ethics"

    Top 10 Ways Pelosi Can Reform the House
    By Robert Bluey
    Sunday, May 6, 2007


    When Democrats won control of Congress last November, Speaker-to-be Nancy Pelosi made a simple promise: “We pledge to make this the most honest, ethical and open Congress in history.”

    This week Pelosi will have her chance to act on that promise when the Sunlight Foundation releases its Open House Project report, a 50-page document that recommends 10 congressional reforms to make the work being done in “the people’s house” more transparent and accessible to American citizens.

    The report is a culmination of months of research and writing by a group of people who connected via the Internet, sharing ideas and working collaboratively despite ideological differences. Some of the recommendations are ambitious; others might be considered low-hanging fruit. But together they make up the most significant reforms since the mid-1990s, when then-Speaker Newt Gingrich oversaw the creation of the online legislative database called THOMAS and paved the way for members’ websites.


    Here are the 10 reforms recommended in the Open House Project report


    1) Enhance the legislative database. In its current form, THOMAS offers an abundance of data about legislation -- from bill status and co-sponsors to roll-call votes and amendments. Unfortunately, it’s not in a format that can be easily used. By making the information accessible in a structured, non-proprietary format, THOMAS could be used in new, creative ways to educate citizens about legislation.


    2) Preserve congressional information. As important as it is to give citizens access to timely information through THOMAS, it’s just as essential to make sure the historical record is archived. With e-mail, word-processing documents and PDFs replacing paperwork, Congress needs to update its rules to ensure this information is preserved.


    3) Shine sunlight on House committees. Pelosi would be wise to put forward a proposal requiring House committees to post transcripts of their proceedings promptly online. Much of the work done in committees is accessible only those who are able to attend personally, an option not available to a farmer in Kansas or an ironworker in Pennsylvania.


    4) Access Congressional Research Service reports. This taxpayer-funded legislative agency is notoriously secretive, sharing its studies only with members of Congress. The people pay for this agency. They should be able to see what it produces.


    5) Update Internet rules. Changes to House rules governing Web sites and e-mail are long overdue. The restrictions currently in place severely limit the use of new tools on Web sites and limit citizens’ impact when sending e-mails. Pelosi should appoint a bipartisan task force to draft recommendations

    6) Create an Online Media Gallery. Citizen journalists and bloggers provide some of the most in-depth coverage of Congress, yet they lack what reporters take for granted: access to the U.S. Capitol. The current structure governing congressional press credentials offers little hope for citizen journalists, but a new Online Media Gallery could adopt guidelines that fit these news hounds.


    7) File records electronically. In a world where everything from banking to grocery shopping is done online, Congress still operates in the Stone Age -- or rather, the Paper Age -- when it comes to filing campaign and lobbying disclosure forms. By making this information available electronically, citizens wouldn’t have to physically travel to Washington to access them.


    8) Fix the Congressional Record. Members of Congress have the luxury of amending their floor remarks and offering extended commentary for the published record. But for the purposes of accuracy, the Congressional Record should distinguish between written remarks and spoken words.


    9) Videotape House proceedings. Most things that happen in the House are never captured on video. While C-SPAN recently eased its restrictions for posting congressional video on sites like YouTube, it cannot cover every committee hearing or press conference. The House needs to devise a way to air, tape and archive for the public as much of its proceedings as possible.


    10) Coordinate Web standards. If the House adopts these proposed reforms, it must also set minimal standards to assure the timeliness, accessibility and preservation of information online.


    These 10 reforms are a good starting point in the drive to bring greater transparency to Capitol Hill. Just as Gingrich’s reforms transformed the way congressional business was done in the mid-1990s, so too will these ideas.


    Change won’t come easily, but Pelosi has a unique opportunity to bridge the partisan divide on an issue that should win broad support among Democrats and Republicans.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/Rober...form_the_house
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    Re: Pelosi & a "question of ethics"

    From the comments section of previous post/article :

    Vic writes: Sunday, May, 06, 2007 11:58 AM
    HaHaHA
    Top Ten ways for reform of Congress

    1. All Dems and RINOs resign.
    2. All congressional district maps to be redrawn into logical areas that eliminate gerrymandering for guaranteed seats.
    3. Eliminate ALL campaign donation laws and make ALL donations public.
    4. Eliminate ALL investigations and public hearings by Congress.
    5. Eliminate ALL lobbyists.
    6. Make the House a single 4 year term and increase the number of reps to reduce the size of the districts. Save money by reducing staff size.
    7. Make the Senate a single 12 year term.
    8. Make it illegal for a lawyer to hold office in either house.
    9. During the first 10 years after initiation of these changes, for every new law written, two old laws must be repealed.
    10. And finally, eliminate ALL programs and departments that are not SPECIFICALLY authorized by the Constitution.

    Since that will never ever happen :

    The Crawfish writes: Monday, May, 07, 2007 9:29 AM
    Pretty good, Vic
    Here's my 10...
    1. Redraw all districts by logical, geographic lines, such as county lines, city limits, major highways, rivers, lakes, etc. Figuring these into a computer program with census data could allow a simple program to make districts that are roughly equal in population, but have sane boundaries.
    2. Allow campaign contributions only from people and businesses within the area that votes for that seat. No foreign contributions at all. This way, no Hollyweird or Soreass money goes to a congressional or Senate campaign in Kentucky. The money reflects the will of the voters, which is true political speech.
    3. Remove dollar limits on campaign contributions, as they are a limit on political speech and should be in violation of the intent of the 1st Amendment.
    4. Make all contributions public, on the campaign website, within 24 hours of them happening.
    5. All campaign money not spent during an election cycle gets given to the state where it was raised within 2 weeks of the election. Losers in a primary who were hoarding cash for the general election, too bad.
    6. No Congressional/Senate pay raises for the next 20 years.
    7. The main office of each Congresscritter/Senator is to be in their district. That's where they need to spend the majority of their time.
    8. Eliminate all programs that do not meet with the requirements and limitations placed upon the federal government by the Constitution.
    9. By making #8 happen, plenty of committees and subcommittees that are in violation of the Constitution can be eliminated, making #7 more possible since the critters won't be wasting time in those meetings.
    10. Eliminate the 16th Amendment and enact the Fair Tax.

    Of course, since none of these reforms promote the goal of worldwide socialism, nor do they increase the power of Dim-ocrats, the odds of any of these happening under Her Majesty's reign are nil.
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    Hastings Quits House Intelligence Panel, Cites Added Responsibilities
    By Greg McDonald, CQ Staff
    Democrat Alcee L. Hastings of Florida abruptly resigned from the House Intelligence Committee Tuesday, citing increased activities as chairman of the U.S. Helsinki Commission and his work on the Rules Committee.

    “Now, I will devote even more time to my continued work for the people of my congressional district by ratcheting up my work as chairman of the U.S. Helsinki Commission, as a senior member of the House Rules Committee, and as co-chairman of Florida’s congressional delegation,” Hastings said in a statement released by his office.

    But Hastings held out the possibility he might return to the panel, where he has served for nearly nine years.

    His resignation took top House Democratic leaders by surprise. Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer , D-Md., said he learned of Hastings’ move from reporters.

    But some panel members thought he might leave in March when Robert E. “Bud” Cramer of Alabama quietly assumed the chairmanship of the of the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee. Hastings had been appointed to lead the panel just six weeks before.

    Aides said Hastings simply realized he would not have enough time to head the subcommittee and attend to his responsibilities at the Helsinki Commission, which monitors compliance with commitments of members of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.

    Hastings denied that his decision was related to being passed over for the chairmanship of the full Intelligence Committee in favor of Silvestre Reyes of Texas. Reyes was hand-picked to lead the panel by Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California in January.

    “He’s chosen to put a greater emphasis on other parts of his legislative portfolio,” spokesman David Goldenberg said.

    It’s no secret, though, that Hastings has been brooding for some time over the move. In an interview with Congressional Quarterly in April, Hastings expressed some anger at “Democrats in high places” who made an issue — during his bid for the chairmanship — of the fact that he was impeached and removed from office as a federal judge in 1989 on corruption and perjury charges.

    Hastings said it didn’t matter that he was found innocent of the charges in a criminal trial. Some Democrats, he said, told him the impeachment alone would be an embarrassment after the party made ethics a centerpiece of its 2006 election efforts.

    He said he withdrew his bid for the chairmanship on the advice of former President Bill Clinton, who told him a bitter struggle for the post might split the party.

    http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cf...s-000002635818



    I believe he was not "found innocent; he was found "not guilty". There is a significant difference. Also, he was impeached and convicted of the impeachment charges. Presidents Johnson and Clinton were also impeached (tried), but not convicted.
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    Culture of corruption: Murtha’s nephew got $4 million in defense contracts

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050403743.html

    The headquarters of Murtech, in a low-slung, bland building in a Glen Burnie business park, has its blinds drawn tight and few signs of life. On several days of visits, a handful of cars sit in the parking lot, and no trucks arrive at the 10 loading bays at the back of the building.

    Yet last year, Murtech received $4 million in Pentagon work, all of it without competition, for a variety of warehousing and engineering services. With its long corridor of sparsely occupied offices and an unmanned reception area, Murtech’s most striking feature is its owner — Robert C. Murtha Jr., 49. He is the nephew of Rep. John P. Murtha, the Pennsylvania Democrat who has significant sway over the Defense Department’s spending as chairman of the House Appropriations defense subcommittee.

    This nepotism-stained pork brought to you by the most ethical Congress ever.

    Sponsored by the letter “C” — for Culture of Corruption.

    ***

    More from Ed Morrissey: This screams for an investigation.
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    Your tax dollars at work thanks to King of Pork John Murtha. Pennsylvania, why did you put this hog back in office. Why? http://www.wjactv.com/news/19147697/detail.html

    $8 Million Radar System Sitting Idle At Cambria County Airport
    EDT April 10, 2009


    JOHNSTOWN, Pa. -- A state-of-the-art radar system that has sat idle for years at a local airport has never been used because there has been no one to operate it, officials said.

    The Digital Airport Surveillance Radar, or DASR, was built at the Johnstown-Cambria County Airport in 2004 with $8 million from the Department of Defense.

    "It's been out there spinning, ready to go. But, there's no manpower," said airport manager Scott Voelker.

    Voelker said for a small airport like Johnstown, DASR is a big deal. It would help air traffic controllers track airplanes up to 120 miles away, instead of five or 10 miles. It would give pilots the weather forecast an hour before it happened.

    The radar system was built with the help of earmarks form Rep. John Murtha and was paid for by the Department of Defense. When it was built five years ago, DASR was expected to give an economic boost by creating 14 air traffic control jobs and lure more and bigger planes into the region.

    But, because it's also a training ground for the Pennsylvania National Guard, it's never been manned.

    A representative for Murtha blamed a personnel issue with the National Guard. A representative for the Pennsylvania National Guard said officials there have asked headquarters repeatedly for the personnel, but with a shrinking force they haven't been able to authorize it.

    Both representatives for Murtha and the National Guard said the issue remains a top priority.

    But, because it’s also a training ground for the Pennsylvania National Guard, it’s never been manned.
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