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September 14, 2012
More unfit than incompetent
Some call him incompetent, but does that descriptor apply when the subject isn't even trying? More often than not, President Obama doesn't bother to attend his daily national security briefings. He's so darn smart he's miraculously already briefed, and even more wonderful to behold, he never has a question. We're supposed to believe it's because he already knows all the answers. But indifference explains the empty chair presidency better. The Cliff Notes version gives President Obama all the intelligence his mega-brain needs (assuming he reads it, which is a leap of faith I'm not willing to make).
His chair at the table was empty even on the day after the murderous attacks on the consulate in Benghazi:
The president was scheduled to hold the intelligence meeting at 10:50 a.m. Wednesday, the day after the attacks, but it was canceled so that he could comfort grieving employees at the State Department — as well he should. But instead of rescheduling the intelligence briefing for later in the day, Obama apparently chose to skip it altogether and attend a Las Vegas fundraiser for his re-election campaign. One day after a terrorist attack.
(Video clips of that event here. http://www.punditandpundette.com/201...tough-day.html )
The damage done, beyond the apparently preventable deaths of Amb. Stevens, Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALS Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, is significant. Sensitive documents are missing and other lives are threatened. Bryan Preston: http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/13...irst-reported/
Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups . .
Awkward, that.
It would be kind of nice to have some answers to how and why this calamity was allowed to happen. But, since the president's not really into answering questions about national security crises or terrorist attacks on Americans, perhaps someone could prevail upon the Pimp with the Limp to bring that up next time Obama calls in to his hip radio show. Or maybe we could get Jay-Z to ask him on Tuesday why nothing was done to secure the embassies in Cairo and Libya, in spite of warnings. The administration kinda-sorta denies they had credible information well in advance of attacks in Benghazi. http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/14...nghazi-attack/ But the official account of what happened there, sketchy as it is, doesn't make sense.
Please read John HInderaker's analysis of the nonsensical timeline we've been given. A bit: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...speed=noscript
The explanation of how Stevens died from smoke inhalation is curious at best:
Mr Stevens, it is believed, was left in the building by the rest of the staff after they failed to find him in dense smoke caused by a blaze which had engulfed the building.
So they fled the building without the Ambassador? And where were the terrorists at that point? They had attacked the building with RPGs, as I understand it, and the building evidently was on fire. Did the terrorists just evaporate and allow the other staff members to leave?
Supposedly, a group of friendly Libyans found Ambassador Stevens lying unconscious in the burned-out safe house and took him to a hospital. This apparently is when the photos we have seen were taken. The crowd doesn’t look particularly friendly to me. But where were the terrorists while that was going on?
Some hours later, apparently, a large group of Americans was rescued from the “safe house.” How can that be? The safe house was on fire. Did they arrive after an earlier group had departed from the safe house, and the friendly Libyans had removed Ambassador Stevens’s body?
http://www.punditandpundette.com/201...competent.html
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September 13, 2012
Obama's "tough day"
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He said it. Summing it up:
- Security at our embassies was apparently not strengthened on 9/11. (Please correct me if I'm wrong).
- There was no security at all for the ambassador and his staff in Benghazi, Libya. Except locked doors.
- President Obama, who bothers to attend only 43% of his national security briefings, hadn't attended any between Sept. 5 and Sept. 11.
- Obama got his 3 a.m. call but decided to sleep through it.
- He made a flat, bloodless statement after the killings of Amb. Stevens, Sean Smith, and the other two still-unidentified Americans.
- He uttered not a word about freedom of speech.
- He didn't answer a single question about the attacks. Not one.
- President Obama headed out to Vegas last night for a fundraiser.
- In Vegas, he compared his campaign volunteers to embassy staff killed in Libya:
“And obviously [our] hearts are broken for the families but I wanted to encourage those folks at the State Dept. that they were making a difference,” Obama told volunteer leaders in Las Vegas, according to the pool report. “The sacrifices that our troops and our diplomats make are obviously very different from the challenges that we face here domestically but like them, you guys are Americans who sense that we can do better than we’re doing….I’m just really proud of you.”
Obama, during his talk with the volunteers, described his visit to the State Department today. “I had a chance to go to the State Dept. to comfort some of the friends and co-workers of the the folks who had fallen and I reminded them that as hard as things are sometimes, as difficult as change is that if we’re resolute, if we don’t give up, if we don’t give in, if we don’t become cynical, if we continue to be realistic about how hard change is but also keep in our hearts that sense of idealism and sense of purpose then over time good things happen,” he said.
What kind of man would use an attack on Americans to sell himself to voters?
The refusal to answer questions on the attacks is almost as appalling as the president's negligence. Apparently he feels the American people don't need answers to questions like "Why was there no security?" or to the one shouted out by the last remotely independent reporter in Washington, "Was this an act of war?" But Obama's policy is not to respond to questions unless they come from groups on his must-pander-to list, and he prefers to discuss his campaign, "music" and sports. The Pimp with the Limp gets the president's ear, but not anyone with serious questions about foreign policy calamities or attacks on America.
Not that the liberal media (with the one exception above) cared to ask him anything serious. Though already well beyond redemption, our media lapdogs outdid themselves yesterday, covering themselves in shame as they played dead to the real, burning questions while working tirelessly to turn Obama's opponent into a fool or a knave for responding to events as Americans once expected presidents to respond.
We're still in the habit of viewing the media as watchdogs who keep government accountable, but it's time to let go of that notion once and for all. RBPundit on Twitter:
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Apparently, not a single reporter has asked why our embassies were unsecured on 9/11. Do they know what their job is? #tcot
12 Sep 12
Like the president, they have another agenda. And in a way, Obama's pathetic media yes-men are even more deplorable than he is. At least he's acting out of self-interest. What's their excuse for the nauseating lock-step rush to cover and spin for him? He gives very little back. It's a sick, co-dependent relationship.
Meanwhile, rage boys in Yemen breached the embassy perimeter and reached the compound grounds. But hey, those Chicago Bears are looking pretty good!
Update on Yemen via Jim Geraghty's Morning Jolt and The NY Daily News: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1158268
Chanting "death to America," hundreds of protesters angered by an anti-Islam film stormed the U.S. Embassy compound in Yemen's capital and burned the American flag on Thursday, the latest in a series of attacks on American diplomatic missions in the Middle East.
The protesters breached the usually tight security around the embassy and reached the compound grounds but did not enter the main building housing the offices. Once inside the compound, they brought down the U.S. flag, burned it and replaced it with a black banner bearing Islam's declaration of faith -- "There is no God but Allah."
Before storming the grounds, demonstrators removed the embassy's sign on the outer wall, set tires ablaze and pelted the compound with rocks.
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Benghazi Assault Even More of a Disaster than First Reported
In the 9-11 assault on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya, the United States lost four of our best and brightest, including the first American ambassador killed in the field since 1979, and two former SEALS.
We also lost a great deal of sensitive information that will compromise our ongoing operations in Libya.
The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the “safe house” in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed “safe”.
Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.
According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and “lockdown”, under which movement is severely restricted.
We had the warning regarding the Cairo attack here on the Tatler on Monday, as I’ve pointed out over and over again. That warning came from the Egyptian press, so it was in open source material easily accessible to our intelligence agencies. The US government should have picked it up, and may have for all we know, but President Obama had been skipping his daily intel briefings of late. He is, so his aides told us, so brilliant that he doesn’t need briefings.
Yet no warnings were issued to our diplomats in the field. Security was not enhanced. In Libya, the locally hired security forces reportedly chose Mohammad over the lives our ambassadorial staff and allowed the attack to happen.
Who couldn’t have seen that coming?
The Pentagon denies, but reports have been circulating that the Marines protecting the Cairo embassy were not even allowed to carry live ammunition.
On 9/11
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/13...irst-reported/
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I live near several chemical plants; oil refineries, and the state capitol... all these were on Heightened Awareness because of the anniversary of 9/11 ... shouldn't foreign Embassies in the Middle East and/or dominatly Islamic regions have done the same?? If there was a "crediable threat" - why were they NOT notified??
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We had the warning regarding the Cairo attack here on the Tatler on Monday, as I’ve pointed out over and over again. That warning came from the Egyptian press, so it was in open source material easily accessible to our intelligence agencies. The US government should have picked it up, and may have for all we know, but President Obama had been skipping his daily intel briefings of late. He is, so his aides told us, so brilliant that he doesn’t need briefings.
Yet no warnings were issued to our diplomats in the field. Security was not enhanced. In Libya, the locally hired security forces reportedly chose Mohammad over the lives our ambassadorial staff and allowed the attack to happen.
Who couldn’t have seen that coming?
The Pentagon denies, but reports have been circulating that the Marines protecting the Cairo embassy were not even allowed to carry live ammunition.
On 9/11
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/13...irst-reported/
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President Obama had to at least had these basic warnings. That would lead one to conclude he was avoiding the critical intel meetings intentionally, knowing that he would then be expected to take precautionary action and spoil the planned 9/11 celebrations. Quite a revolutionary approach to leadership.
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Didn’t you hear? Obama has a printed daily briefing delivered to the official residence.
He’s skipped his last 8 or so actual briefings, and has missed over half of them since taking office.
It’s an open question whether he actually READS the paper he has delivered each day. Administration insiders tried to spin this daily paper as proof he’s more involved than Bush was — but admitted Bush had daily BRIEFINGS where he actually communicated with people and could ask questions and stuff.
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What a contrast in leadership. A man they condemn as an idiot receives his security briefers every morning. He actually has exchanges with those security personnel. The other guy, “the smartest guy in the room”, doesn’t need the detail and doesn’t need it everyday. He can hold the sealed envelope to his forehead, ala Karnak the Magnificent, and spit out the answer before he knows the question. SOB is pretty good.
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Remember that they were first moved from the consulate to another building, then overwhelmed. If the papers were in the consulate, they may not have had time to destroy them. If the papers were on the ambassador, they may not have thought it necessary.
There was a five hour window where Stevens is unaccounted for ... before his body mysteriously appears in a hospital ER with no ID.
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http://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/...rs-before.html That this is not major news is a disgrace. And if it turns out that Ambassador Stevens was raped as has been reported, I do not see how Barack Obama blames Bush or Romney for that.
But then again, never underestimate their ability and willingness to lie.
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It is absolutely breathtaking, but almost certainly true, that the Benghazi consulate retained documents with the names and details of sensitive contacts in Libya in clear text without any encryption.
These practices are callously reckless but to be expected from mollycoddled government employees who regard themselves as superior to mere mortals.
Security services and private companies have known for decades – at least since World War II – that sensitive information must ALWAYS be protected by several layers of security including pseudonyms, encryption, physical security, departmentalization etc.
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I can’t help wonder if this whole fiasco was part of a false-flag gone wrong. We know how desperate the white house occupant is to be re-elected and, it wouldn’d be the first time a ‘double game’ blows up at the wrong time. Where’s Petraeus in all of this? We also know that MB has infiltrated the white house; an investigation needs to start yesterday. Something stinks to high heavenand, nobody’s life deserves to be sacrificed for politcal games and desperation. Hillary – Obama, the team that couldn’t shoot straight!
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Our US Ambassador to Egypt is KIDNAPPED, missing for HOURS. SUFFOCATED.
Our MARINES were not allowed to have BULLETS (the Barney Fife approach).
You tell me, what should the response be?
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Let's not forget that the consulate in Benghazi was targeted for attack in both June and August. So why was there so little protection there?
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Losses: U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, left, and former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, right, were killed during Tuesday night's attack
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Gone: Diplomat Sean Smith, left, and Tyrone S. Woods, right, were also killed in the melee
Benghazi outpost was targeted before deadly attack as US rushes spies and drones to Libya
•The U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was attacked on June 6th when an IED was thrown over the perimeter
•Following the June attack there were three other attacks on western diplomatic targets in Benghazi before the deadly assault on the U.S. Consulate
•In response the CIA is sending unmanned drones to North Africa
By James Nye - PUBLISHED: 13:14 EST, 15 September 2012
Questions are being asked about the preparedness of the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, after it was revealed that there were four attacks on diplomatic targets in the Libyan city in the months leading up to the killing of the U.S. ambassador on Wednesday.
Despite President Obama's administration claiming that there was no 'actionable intelligence' before the attack, on June 6th an IED was thrown at the perimeter of the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi and on August 5th, just over a month before the deadly assault an International Committee of the Red Cross building in the city was hit by rocket propelled grenades.
'This (the U.S. Consulate) was a place that was targeted months before with an IED (improvised explosive device),' said Rep. Mike Rogers, chairman of the House intelligence committee who has been briefed on the attack and investigation.
He told Fox News, 'It's clearly a target that they wanted to hit and they wanted to cause casualties. ... It's just too many coincidences here'.
In addition, on June 11th the British ambassador's motorcade was attacked by grenades, leaving two security personnel injured and on June 18th, armed gunmen attacked the Tunisian consulate and burned its flag.
And on Friday the chairman and a ranking member of the Senate homeland security comittee, Joe Lieberman and Susan Collins, issued a letter to the State Department inspector general requesting an investigation into the posture of the U.S. Consulate before the attack.
The letter references the attack on the British ambassador in June.
'Does the risk assessment process consider the capacity or lack thereof of the host country to provide security?' says the letter.
'Did the Libyan government request or suggest that security could be improved at the Benghazi facility prior to September 12th, 2010?'
However, a spokesman for the Office of the Director of National INtelligence, repeated the claim that U.S. officials in LIbya were in the dark about the assault.
'Actionable intelligence would have meant that we either saw or heard something, through intelligence collection, that told us that a specific act was being planned or was imminent,' said the spokesman.
'As I have said, we are not aware of any actionable intelligence related to the attack in Benghazi.'
The Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the National Security Council did not comment when asked if the president was briefed on the four prior attacks before the deadly Benghazi attack.
This comes as the U.S. has announced it is sending more spies, Marines and drones to Libya, trying to speed the search for those who killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans, but the investigation is complicated by a chaotic security picture in the post-revolutionary country and limited American and Libyan intelligence resources.
The CIA has fewer people available to send, stretched thin from tracking conflicts across the Middle East, Africa and Asia. Much of the team dispatched to Libya during the revolution had been sent onward to the Syrian border, U.S. officials say.
And the Libyans have barely re-established full control of their country, much less rebuilt their intelligence service, less than a year after the overthrow of dictator Moammar Gadhafi.
The U.S. has already deployed an FBI investigation team, trying to track al-Qaida sympathizers thought to be responsible for turning a demonstration over an anti-Islamic video into a violent, coordinated militant attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.
Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other embassy employees were killed after a barrage of small arms, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars tore into the consulate buildings in Benghazi on Tuesday, the 11th anniversary of 9/11, setting the buildings on fire.
President Barack Obama said in a Rose Garden statement the morning after the attack that those responsible would be brought to justice.
That may not be swift. Building a clearer picture of what happened will take more time and possibly more people, U.S. officials said Friday, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation publicly.
In a statement posted Saturday on Islamic militant websites, Al-Qaida's branch in Yemen praised the killings and called for more attacks to expel American embassies from Muslim nations, suggesting the terrorist organization is trying to co-opt the angry protests over a film produced in the United States denigrating the Prophet Muhammad.
Intelligence officials are reviewing telephone and radio intercepts, computer traffic, satellite images and other clues from the days before the attacks — the kinds of material routinely gathered in a conflict zone where al-Qaida affiliates are known to operate — and Libyan law enforcement has made some arrests.
But investigators have found no evidence pointing conclusively to a particular group or to indicate the attack was planned, White House spokesman Jay Carney said, adding, 'This is obviously under investigation.'
Early indications suggest the attack was carried out not by the main al-Qaida terror group but 'al-Qaida sympathizers,' said a U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly.
One of the leading suspects is the Libyan-based Islamic militant group Ansar al-Shariah, led by former Guantanamo detainee Sufyan bin Qumu.
The group denied responsibility in a video Friday but did acknowledge its fighters were in the area during what it called a 'popular protest' at the consulate, according to Ben Venzke of the IntelCenter, a private analysis firm that monitors Jihadist media for the U.S. intelligence community.
The U.S. had been watching threat assessments from Libya for months but none offered warnings of the Benghazi attack, according to another intelligence official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about U.S. intelligence matters.
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Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, questioned whether the consulate had taken sufficient security measures, given an attempt to attack the consulate in Benghazi a few months ago.
Carney said that given the 9/11 anniversary, security had been heightened.
'It was, unfortunately, not enough,' he said.
That paucity of resources also applies to the intelligence officers available to monitor Libya on the ground.
With ongoing counterterrorism operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen, as well as the civil war in Syria, the CIA's clandestine and paramilitary officer corps is simply running out of trained officers to send, U.S. officials say, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the deployment of intelligence personnel publicly.
The clandestine service is roughly 5,000 officers strong, and the paramilitary corps sent to war zones is only in the hundreds, the officials said.
Most of the CIA's clandestine and paramilitary team that had worked with Libyan rebels to bring about the fall of Gadhafi is now arrayed at the Syrian border, working with rebels there to try to hasten the fall of Syrian president Bashar Assad, the officials said.
The CIA normally hires extra people to make up for such shortfalls, often retired special operators with the requisite security clearance, military training and language ability.
But the government mandate to slash contractor use has meant cutting contracts, according to two former officials familiar with the agency's current hiring practices.
To fill in the gaps in spies on the ground, the U.S. intelligence community has kept up surveillance over Libya with unmanned and largely unarmed Predator and Reaper drones, increasing the area they cover and the frequency of their flights since the attack on the consulate, as well as sending more surveillance equipment to the region, one official said.
But intelligence gathered from the air still needs corroboration from sources on the ground, as well as someone to act on the intelligence to go after the targets.
The Libyan government, which U.S. officials say is eager to help, has limited tools at its disposal. The post-revolution government has been slow to rebuild both its intelligence capability and its security services, fearful of empowering the very institutions they had to fight to overthrow Gadhafi.
They have made a start, but they lack a sophisticated cadre of trained spies and a large network of informants.
'The Libyans in just about every endeavor are just learning to walk, let alone run,' said Paul Pillar, a former senior CIA official and author of the book 'Intelligence and U.S. Foreign Policy.'
'There is confusion and competing elements within the new provisional government which complicates the task of creating new institutions, including the intelligence service,' he said.
'There are still some aspects of the intelligence services that still work,' says Barak Barfi of the New America Foundation think tank, including eavesdropping on cellphone calls and spying on computer traffic using equipment from the Gadhafi era.
Barfi spent months with members of Libya's transitional government as they tried to rebuild the nation's services and infrastructure.
But the Libyans have not yet even taken full command their own security services almost a year after Gadhafi's fall, Barfi said.
That's given the tens of thousands of militiamen who helped overthrow Gadhafi the time they needed to organize and seek new targets, especially Western ones, he said.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz26kVnRbGN
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U.S. official says Benghazi consulate was "terrorist attack"
Reuters – 2 hrs 10 mins ago.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The assault on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi last week in which four Americans died was a "terrorist attack" that may have had an al Qaeda connection, a top U.S. counterterrorism official told Congress on Wednesday.
Rocket-propelled grenades and mortars struck the consulate on September 11, the anniversary of the 2001 attacks on the United States. U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans died.
"They were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy," Matthew Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said in response to a question at a Senate hearing.
Olsen said whether the attack was planned for September 11 was under investigation, but the information so far indicated it was "an opportunistic attack" that "began and evolved, and escalated over several hours."
There were well-armed militants in the area, he said. "What we don't have at this point is specific intelligence that there was a significant advance planning or coordination for this attack."
Whether or not the attack was planned well in advance has become a point of dispute between the Obama administration and Republican lawmakers who say it bears the hallmarks of a premeditated assault. Senior Libyan officials have said the attack was planned in advance.
At the same hearing, Republican Senator Susan Collins said she agreed with Libyan officials that the attack was premeditated, planned and associated with the September 11 anniversary. She expressed concern about the security at the consulate, where no Marines were present and security was handled by foreign nationals.
Olsen told lawmakers U.S. authorities are investigating who was responsible for the attack, and it appeared that a "number of different elements" were involved, including individuals connected to militant groups.
"As well, we are looking at indications that individuals involved in the attack may have had connections to al Qaeda or al Qaeda affiliates, particularly Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb," he said.
"The picture that is emerging is one where a number of different individuals were involved, so it's not necessarily an either-or proposition," Olsen said.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-official-say...170213644.html
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"U.S. official says Benghazi consulate was "terrorist attack"
Why was an "official" needed to tell us what everyone already knew.
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Obama and Hillery are responsiable for security of our embassies. How many times do we have to get attacked on 9/11 before we beef up security? Our embassy security is about as good as our border security. Do your job OBAMA !!
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Someone tell Jay Carney, he's still reassuring us that it was a random, spontaneous act of violence that could have happened anywhere, any time, given the horrible provocation of an unknown Youtube video.
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Wait a minute! Did not American Ambassador to U.N Susan Rice state: It was NOT a planned terrorist Attack? What a bunch of lair's the U.S. Government has become!
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This was carried out mostly by the people who were fighting us in Iraq according to TAYYAR the official libyan news agency, Sort of like was being said during the Bush era, we are fighting them here so that we don't have to fight them everywhere.
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Well, well, and when are we going to hear from the ding dong UN ambassador who went on 47 left wing news outlets preaching "spontaneous"????
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It wasnt a spontaneous response to the video like we were told 100 times? SHOCKING. How much you want to bet the media will report this once and move onto something anti romney
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Can we get a report on Clinton's signing off on a 'no bullet' policy for Marines in Libya?
The US Embassy in Baghdad has 15,000 employees. The Embassy in Libya apparently had about 12 people. Who in the Government is responsible for the Security or the lack of security in Libya? It was a very powerful group of attackers that stormed the Embassy and they knew that the security was not there. It would not take much planning to cause a lot of damage to the Embassy in Libya, so the overkill was made to make a headline and that makes the attack pre-meditated and planned and those killed had no defense.
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Libyans storm militia in backlash of attack on US
By MAGGIE MICHAEL | Associated Press – 1 hr 31 mins ago.
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BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — Hundreds of protesters angry over last week's killing of the U.S. ambassador to Libya stormed the compound of the Islamic extremist militia suspected in the attack, evicting militiamen and setting fire to their building Friday.
In an unprecedented show of public anger at Libya's rampant militias, the crowd overwhelmed the compound of the Ansar al-Shariah Brigade in the center of the eastern city of Benghazi.
Ansar al-Shariah fighters initially fired in the air to disperse the crowd, but eventually abandoned the site with their weapons and vehicles after it was overrun by waves of protesters shouting "No to militias."
"I don't want to see armed men wearing Afghani-style clothes stopping me in the street to give me orders, I only want to see people in uniform," said Omar Mohammed, a university student who took part in the takeover of the site, which protesters said was done in support of the army and police.
No deaths were reported in the incident, which came after tens of thousands marched in Benghazi against armed militias. One vehicle was also burned at the compound.
For many Libyans, the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was the last straw in one of the biggest problems Libya has faced since the ouster and death of longtime dictator Moammar Gadhafi around a year ago — the multiple mini-armies that with their arsenals of machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades are stronger than the regular armed forces and police.
The militias, a legacy of the rag-tag popular forces that fought Gadhafi's regime, tout themselves as protectors of Libya's revolution, providing security where police cannot. But many say they act like gangs, detaining and intimidating rivals and carrying out killings.
Militias made up of Islamic radicals like Ansar al-Shariah are notorious for attacks on Muslims who don't abide by their hardline ideology. Officials and witnesses say fighters from Ansar al-Shariah led the attack on the U.S. consulate, which killed Amb. Chris Stevens and three other Americans.
After taking over the Ansar compound, protesters then drove to attack the Benghazi headquarters of another Islamist militia, Rafallah Sahati. The militiamen opened fire on the protesters, who were largely unarmed. At least 20 were wounded, and there were unconfirmed witness reports of three protesters killed.
Earlier in the day, some 30,000 people filled a broad boulevard as they marched along a lake in central Benghazi on Friday to the gates of the headquarters of Ansar al-Shariah.
"No, no, to militias," the crowd chanted, filling a broad boulevard. They carried banners and signs demanding that militias disband and that the government build up police to take their place in keeping security. "Benghazi is in a trap," signs read. "Where is the army, where is the police?"
Other signs mourned the killing of Stevens, reading, "The ambassador was Libya's friend" and "Libya lost a friend." Military helicopters and fighter jets flew overhead, and police mingled in the crowd, buoyed by the support of the protesters.
The march was the biggest seen in Benghazi, Libya's second largest city and home to 1 million people, since the fall of Gadhafi in August 2011. The public backlash comes in part in frustration with the interim government, which has been unable to rein in the armed factions. Many say that officials' attempts to co-opt fighters by paying them have only fueled the growth of militias without bringing them under state control or integrating them into the regular forces.
Residents of another main eastern city, Darna, have also begun to stand up against Ansar al-Shariah and other militias.
The anti-militia fervor in Darna is notable because the city, in the mountains along the Mediterranean coast north of Benghazi, has long had a reputation as a stronghold for Islamic extremists. During the Gadhafi era, it was the hotbed of a deadly Islamist insurgency against his regime. A significant number of the Libyan jihadists who travelled to Afghanistan and Iraq during recent wars came from Darna. During the revolt against him last year, Gadhafi's regime warned that Darna would declare itself an Islamic Emirate and ally itself with al-Qaida.
But now, the residents are lashing out against Ansar al-Shariah, the main Islamic extremist group in the city.
"The killing of the ambassador blew up the situation. It was disastrous," said Ayoub al-Shedwi, a young bearded Muslim preacher in Darna who says he has received multiple death threats because has spoken out against militias on a radio show he hosts. "We felt that the revolution is going in vain."
Leaders of tribes, which are the strongest social force in eastern Libya, have come forward to demand that the militias disband. Tribal leaders in Benghazi and Darna announced this week that members of their tribes who are militiamen will no longer have their protection in the face of anti-militia protests. That means the tribe will not avenge them if they are killed.
Activists and residents have held a sit-in for the past eight days outside Darna's Sahaba Mosque, calling on tribes to put an end to the "state of terrorism" created by the militias.
Militiamen have been blamed for a range of violence in Darna. On the same day Stevens killed in Benghazi, a number of elderly Catholic nuns and a priest who have lived in Darna for decades providing free medical services, were attacked, reportedly beaten or stabbed. There have been 32 killings over the past few months, including the city security chief and assassinations of former officers from Gadhafi's military.
Darna's residents are conservative, but they largely don't fit the city's reputation as extremists. Women wear headscarves, but not the more conservative black garb and veil that covers the entire body and face. In the ancient city's narrow alleys, shops display sleeveless women dresses and the young men racing by in cars blare Western songs.
And many are impatient with Ansar al-Shariah's talk of imposing its strict version of Islamic law. The group's name means "Supporters of Shariah Law."
"We are not infidels for God sake. We have no bars, no discos, we are not practicing vice in the street," said Wassam ben Madin, a leading activist in the city who lost his right eye in clashes with security forces on the first day of the uprising against Gadhafi. "This is not the time for talk about Shariah. Have a state first then talk to me about Shariah."
"If they are the 'supporters of Shariah' then who are we?" he said. "We don't want the flag of al-Qaida raised over heads," he added, referring to Ansar al-Shariah's black banner.
One elder resident at the Sahaba Mosque sit-in, Ramadan Youssef, said, "We will talk to them peacefully. We will tell them you are from us and you fought for us" during the civil war against Gadahfi. But "if you say no (to integrating into the) police and army, we will storm your place. It's over."
Officials in the interim government and security forces say they are not strong enough to crack down on the militias. The armed factions have refused government calls for them to join the regular army and police.
So the government has created a "High Security Committee" aimed at grouping the armed factions as a first step to integration. Authorities pay fighters a salary of as much as 1,000 dinars, around $900, to join — compared to the average police monthly salary of around $200. However, the militias that join still do not abide by government authority, and critics say the lure of salaries has only prompted more militias to form.
Officials and former rebel commanders estimate the number of rebels that actually fought in the 8-month civil war against Gadhafi at around 30,000. But those now listed on the High Security Committee payroll have reached several hundred thousand.
"All these militia and entities are fake ones but it is mushrooming," said Khaled Hadar, a Benghazi-based lawyer. "The government is only making temporarily solutions, but you are creating a disaster."
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http://news.yahoo.com/libyans-storm-...225317193.html
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Obama: Libya attack ‘wasn’t just a mob action’
By Olivier Knox, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 12 hrs ago.
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President Barack Obama said Monday that the Sept. 11 attack that claimed the life of the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans "wasn't just a mob action," but he stopped short of explicitly labeling the assault as an act of terrorism.
Obama's comments came as he taped an interview with "The View" during a brief trip to New York to address the annual United National General Assembly. He had been asked whether the attack on the U.S. Consulate compound in the city of Benghazi was a terrorist act.
"There's no doubt that the kind of weapons that were used, the ongoing assault, that it wasn't just a mob action," the president said. "What's clear is that, around the world, there are still a lot of threats out there." Obama's remarks were collected by pool reporter David Boyer of the Washington Times.
The head of the National Counterterrorism Center has called the attack an act of terrorism. White House spokesman Jay Carney said it's "self-evident" that that is the case. But Obama did not explicitly do so.
Still, his remarks reflected a day-by-day shift in how his administration has described the attack. At first, the White House described it as a spontaneous act resulting from demonstrations against an anti-Islam video on the Internet. That video has led to angry anti-U.S. protests throughout the Muslim world. Obama noted that, but he underlined that "there's never an excuse for violence." And he said the best response to the video would be to "ignore it"--even though aides said he would discuss the film in his speech to the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday.
The incident has raised questions about whether the slain ambassador, Chris Stevens, should have had more protection. And Republicans led by Mitt Romney have pointed to the demonstrations across the region as a sign that the president has botched his response to the so-called "Arab Spring" uprisings that have swept authoritarian regimes from power.
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I thought Obama said he sent the FBI to Libya to investigate? How then did a CNN reporter find Stevens notebook?
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Did Obama tell the audience of "The View...." that sensitive U.S. government documents are now missing from the U.S. Consulate that was attacked - and those documents are now believed to be in the hands of Al Qaeda?
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Obama sure did change his tune! Last week it was caused by a Youtube video.
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It took him a full 11 days after the murders to admit this. btw, that "bump on the road" was the u.s. ambassador to libya.
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Actually the deceased four were just "bumped". Considering that you have UNARMED security on Sept 11th (the first one since Osama demise), the Ambassador was gay (who in the hell sends a gay man as Ambassador to a Muslim country where this is punishable by death?) and all the rumblings of advanced warning, I smell SETUP!!
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The President, Democrats and media were so quick to jump on Romney for making what they called "premature" statements following the attack. Now we find these same people did the same thing. They immediately called it a mob action and now they confess what we knew all along and that it was a planned attack. Lying to the American people under such circumstances is arrogance at its extreme. This is the way of totalitarianism. Hide the truth from the people.
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Wow, enlightening comment Mr. Obama ,,,,,,,,, and only 2 weeks after Romney pointed it out first.
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Did Obama tell the audience of "The View...." that the man behind these attacks was released from Gitmo and was affiliated with Al Qaeda - the same leaders Obama supported using the U.S. military and tax payers funds during the overthrow of Libya?
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Benghazi consulate massacre: White House knew within 24 hours it was a terrorist attack
Posted by: Phineas on September 26, 2012 at 1:01 pm
It was on September 11th, 2012, that our consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and a supposedly secret safe house there were attacked by jihadists allied with al Qaeda. Our ambassador was raped and murdered. http://www.raymondibrahim.com/12305/...topher-stevens Three other Americans died in the slaughter. For over a week after the attack, spokespeople for the Obama Administration, including the president, himself, insisted the problem started with outrage over an obscure video posted to YouTube and that the attack was a spontaneous eruption, not preplanned:
■On September 13th, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton blamed the video. She and her boss even appeared in a taxpayer-funded commercial in Pakistan that inferred the video was to blame.
■On September 15th, the maker of that video was rousted from his home with a midnight visit from the LA Sheriffs, complete with TV crews.
■On September 19th, Mouth of Sauron Press Secretary Jay Carney swore up and down that they had no evidence the attack was preplanned, that the investigation was continuing.
■Our Ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, went on national television the weekend after the attack and swore it was “a demonstration hijacked by a few extremists.”.
■And just yesterday, even after one of his national security officials admitted is was a terrorist attack, Obama himself stood in front of the United Nations and blamed a video for all the tumult.
So, you’ll be totally shocked –SHOCKED, I say!!– to learn that all these wonderful public servants were lying through their teeth.
They knew within a day: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ffiliates.html
Within 24 hours of the 9-11 anniversary attack on the United States consulate in Benghazi, U.S. intelligence agencies had strong indications al Qaeda–affiliated operatives were behind the attack, and had even pinpointed the location of one of those attackers. Three separate U.S. intelligence officials who spoke to The Daily Beast said the early information was enough to show that the attack was planned and the work of al Qaeda affiliates operating in Eastern Libya.
Nonetheless, it took until late last week for the White House and the administration to formally acknowledge that the Benghazi assault was a terrorist attack. On Sunday, Obama adviser Robert Gibbs explained the evolving narrative as a function of new information coming in quickly on the attacks. “We learned more information every single day about what happened,” Gibbs said on Fox News. “Nobody wants to get to the bottom of this faster than we do.”
The intelligence officials who spoke to The Daily Beast did so anonymously because they weren’t authorized to speak to the press. They said U.S. intelligence agencies developed leads on four of the participants of the attacks within 24 hours of the fire fight that took place mainly at an annex near the Benghazi consulate. For one of those individuals, the U.S. agencies were able to find his location after his use of social media. “We had two kinds of intelligence on one guy,” this official said. “We believe we had enough to target him.”
So not only did they have warning of the attack, http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...k-8145242.html but they knew by September 12th that it was a jihadist strike and they had even located one of the ringleaders. Look at the dates on that list above, again. For two full weeks after the massacre and intelligence catastrophe, high officials from the president on down were insisting it was either a spontaneous outgrowth from a demonstration that got out of hand http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/wo...a-efforts.html (And to which people just happened to bring heavy weapons.) or that we just didn’t know and were still investigating.
It’s not that they lied that’s so appalling; all administrations will lie when it comes to national security matters, if they feel it’s necessary. And often they’re right to do so, when telling the truth could lead to greater harm.
But it’s the motive for these lies that’s truly offensive. It wasn’t to fool the enemy — they knew what really happened. It wasn’t to deceive them about our response; if we knew where one of these clowns was hiding, we could have snatched or killed him by now, and the administration could spike the ball on this, too. No, the Obama administration’s reactions in the wake of the massacre were too clumsy and uncoordinated to be a cover for retaliatory operations. They simply didn’t know what to do, except play CYA. It’s politically insane, because, had they come out and said forcefully “It’s a war. Al Qaeda hit us, but we’ll get these monsters,” much of the nation would have instinctively “rallied to the flag” and backed Obama.
Instead they lied. To us. Why?
The only motive for this serial lying was to deceive us. They are desperate to get the press off their backs and mollify the American people, treating the MSM like tools (admittedly, that’s often justified) and us like idiots or gullible children in the hope they can avoid a well-earned heaping helping of blame for this deadly fiasco. Obama’s reelection is all that matters.
Americans died, Obama lied.
As former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy writes on a closely related matter: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rew-c-mccarthy
If they lie, you can’t trust them. That’s a fairly straightforward rule. It is certainly the one that trial lawyers bank on.
It is not a hard and fast rule. A person may shade the truth for various reasons: vanity, personal allegiances, financial incentives, etc. Usually, once you figure out the relevant motivation, you can sort out on what matters he is probably credible and what he is prone to lie about. Sometimes, though, the story is so unbelievable, so insulting to the intelligence, that a rational juror knows it is best to discount all of the testimony — or, worse, to conclude that the truth is likely the opposite of the witness’s desperate version.
The claim that the demonstrations and embassy invasion in Cairo and the massacre in Libya were spontaneous reactions to an obscure video is just that sort of insult to our intelligence. It is sad and pathetic.
Just like the Obama administration, itself.
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/2...urs-of-attack/
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