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    Installing APPS...Do people really allow this??

    I may have mentioned elsewhere, that I don't use my phone (Android) for anything other than phone calls and taking pictures. No......I don't even text! lol

    Well last night, I received an alarm system (won't mention brand), and tried to install it. First thing it says is that I have to download an app to install. Not really sure why, considering I won't be using any cameras with it.

    I tried to find a way around it, but it seems to be the ONLY way. So I started to download it.

    Then this pops up.............

    This app has access to:
    Wi-Fi connection information

    • view Wi-Fi connections


    Storage

    • read the contents of your USB storage
    • modify or delete the contents of your USB storage


    Contacts

    • find accounts on the device
    • read your contacts
    • modify your contacts


    Location

    • approximate location (network-based)
    • precise location (GPS and network-based)


    Microphone

    • record audio


    Photos/Media/Files

    • read the contents of your USB storage
    • modify or delete the contents of your USB storage


    Identity

    • find accounts on the device


    Camera

    • take pictures and videos


    Device & app history

    • retrieve running apps
    • read sensitive log data




    Other

    • allow Bluetooth pairing by Application
    • download files without notification
    • receive data from Internet
    • view network connections
    • run at startup
    • prevent device from sleeping
    • change your audio settings
    • control vibration
    • send sticky broadcast
    • full network access
    • access Bluetooth settings
    • modify system settings
    • connect and disconnect from Wi-Fi
    • pair with Bluetooth devices



    Are you freaking kidding me!!

    Why don't I just go to a Hackers Convention and hand a stranger my phone!!

    Seriously?? People allow this when downloading apps??

    Access to my files.....my contacts.....ability to my CHANGE my contacts.......access to my photos, my camera and microphone..take pics/record me........tracking me

    There is NO WAY I am downloading this app! How IRONIC that this is for a SECURITY COMPANY :O

    And people wonder why their information is stolen!?

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    I'm with you. I only had an emergency Tracfone, never activated internet on it, only use for calling and text when we need to evacuate ahead of hurricanes. I am a complete phone novice -- by choice. I was pressured into getting a real smartphone recently because everything is going to cardless, touchless, online checkin, etc. So far it's in the box on the desk. Eventually it will become another brick in my purse. I take it out to charge it -- have never made a call, never sent a text. My three email accounts are all mixed together. They can't seem to permantly separate them, but taught me how to view each one separately. Whatever. I haven't downloaded any apps, don't plan to give it any permissions. I've never given anyone the phone number!

    Kathy

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    That seems to be a lot of unnecessary access to your phone and information. What would happen if you installed then uninstalled?
    Be Happy Now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magickay View Post
    That seems to be a lot of unnecessary access to your phone and information. What would happen if you installed then uninstalled?
    I don't know, but I'm not willing to risk it.

    I'm boxing it back up and sending it back.

    How did security alarms work, back in the day, before the internet?

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    A friend of mine had an ADT system installed in her home in Austin. It is monitored by the company, and she would get calls from them when the alarm was tripped.

    This old house I live in now has an alarm system, but it's not monitored. It has a loud horn system which is supposed to scare away intruders. It might have been monitored at one time, but it isn't now. It was tripped one time when the power went off in the neighborhood, and when the power came back on, the horns were blaring. Unfortunately for our neighbors, we were out of town that weekend. It apparently reset itself by the time we got home, but we heard about it the next day from one of our neighbors.

    We've looked at the new camera systems superficially, and have talked about getting something, but haven't yet.
    Be Happy Now.

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    I contacted another alarm company and asked about apps, and this is what they said

    The app is how you would receive notifications if your alarm were to go off! We do also send out email notifications to your computer as well.

    Ok, first of all, if I'm home, and my alarm goes off, I don't need someone to send me a text to tell me. I'm pretty sure I"ll hear it.

    Second of all, if I'm not home and it goes off...........call the cops!! Don't waste time calling or texting me......call....the... cops!!!

    Third, my job doesn't allow me to sit and play on my phone all day. It's actually in my locker from 6am until 4pm. I can't do anything about them notifiying me anyhow.

    This system runs off Wi-fi. I have that. The only reason the apps are needed is for me to watch video (if I had cameras installed), and for them to contact me. It should be an option.

    I did think about having one professionally installed, but it was kind of expensive. When I came across the one I have now, it seemed easier, and was WAY less expensive for monthly monitorying fee.

    I'll keep looking around.

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    My sweetie and I were discussing the ban of TikTok, and I mentioned this post about a security system wanting access. He was horrified when I read all the stuff this system wanted to access. He said it made him feel LESS secure if all of that had to be on his phone, which was even more vulnerable.
    Be Happy Now.

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    Exactly how I felt.

    I ended up sending the whole thing back, and have been trying to find another company that doesn't require downloading an app. Looks like I'll have to buy a dog to protect my house! lol They all require app download. Their reasoning is so they can contact me if I'm not home and my alarm goes off. As I said above....call the cops....not me!

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    We have Brinks, no app needed, they call you if alarm is set off etc. Had for over 20 years between my 3 houses...

    but usually all apps ask permission, you can go into app and change permissions after installed too..

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    I felt the same way about Ancestery, everyone I knew was getting their DNA checked, then it could put you in touch with long lost family members, then they used it to solve a crime now it's being sold to another company!! I didn't like the idea from the start, I was in system security and saw all the potential problems with privacy, everyone said I was paranoid. Same with cameras on your computer, I would tell people do you know they can be turned on remotely or hack your wi-fi and watch live without turning on your computer and most people had computers in their childrens bedrooms!! People have talked to young children through the baby cams, my sister heard someone call my nephew by his name one night on theirs. Then it came on the news people were watching their children or themselves, we taped a piece of paper over the first laptop that had them installed from the factory and people thought we were nuts. Then "hey talk to this little device and find out the weather, it doesn't listen to you until you say it's name", whoops, it has to listen to your every word to wait to hear it's name. Your flat screen TV, your computer, your phone, your DNA we only went home wireless a few years ago when we were sure we could lock it down and we were remote enough that people couldn't breakin from the street. A guy I worked with, who should have known better, found out a neighbor was using his wi-fi to watch child porn, the police confiscated all his devices to make sure it wasn't him. The information we give up everyday is staggering, and yes I sent for freebies by the hundreds in the day but I used a junk e-mail, never gave my correct birthdate, never used my real first name and a misspelling of my last, well found on my credit report it is now an alias, started getting offers in the mail for credit cards, insurance, etc. Your information is bought, sold and stolen, everything you search for online is categorized and sold. Once we installed a VPN I can't even check some newspaper articles, they wanted the location known first, I don't want to read it that badly. My husbands medical bed has a wi-fi connection so it can tell him how he slept, it's the only open link on our system because right now you can't turn it off without unplugging the bed. But we are in the sticks and the VPN helps. Have that safe driver on your phone, how about GPS?? Well they know where you are, where you've been and if you are going to travel and you plug in an address, where you are going. When I use mine I never put in my home address, just my city and I clear it everytime I get home. Check maps on your phone, it knows everywhere you've been, it tracks your children, knows where they go to school, where they work. Wonder why it takes longer to use the chip on your credit card instead of just swiping it, do you really think companies care about your security and that little 3 digit number on the back is supposed to be a safty guard but you need to give it out everytime you order something. Most people still think I'm paranoid and thats ok, wait until the police pound on your door like my co-worker and accuse you of child pornography.
    Keep your hands to yourself, leave other people's things alone, and be kind to one another.

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