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    Does anyone know anywhere I can get a business loan if I don't have good credit? My husband and I have been selling all new merchandise off and on at flea markets for almost 14 years. Now we have had an offer for a location for a store. The monthly rent on the store is very reasonable. But we don't have enough merchandise to fill a store. I have lots of sources for merchandise. Just not enough money to fill a store.

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    It will be difficult is you don't have great credit. There are alot of things you need to consider. Are you planning to incorporate or is this business under your personal names? Do you have any collateral to put up for the loan?
    Before you even start going to banks you are going to need a business plan in place. Will you own or lease the building. you will have to obtain lialbility insurance. You will need business permits & licenses. Are you going to put a sign up...again permits & license. You will need a yearly fire code inspection. What about parking?
    I work for a small business that has been profitable for over 25 years. Federal government said there were now loans in place for small businesses. There is a catch though...you also have to hire people & pay for their health insurance.
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    It is VERY hard to get a business loan right now, and next to impossible if you have bad credit. Ex dh is going thru this right now-he has excellent credit and was denied. I agree with Sunniekiss, you have to have a lot of other things in place before you start going to banks.

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    I know it sounds like a great way to be in business for yourself. It might appear that you could make bundles of money however, you need to sit down and figure out how much stuff you have to sell just to cover your overhead - Rent, Utilities, Taxes, Permits, Wages and any other costs to opening this business. Please note you have to cover those costs out of the "profit" you will be making. Our business has been around for over 25 years and the only way we can get a "loan" is to use our credit line that we have had in place for over 20 years. Once you sit down with pen and paper and figure out all the costs you will realize you have to sell a lot of stuff for a lot more than you realize just to break even. Stick with the flea market - it has a low overhead cost and you have customers brought to you with NO advertising costs.

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    The place where we would be selling is a mall the has now been turned into all flea market vendors. There are kiosks in the mall and storefronts. They are planning on doing a lot of advertising. They just purchased a billboard. And they are doing radio, tv and newspaper advertising. We are tired of doing just the regular flea markets. It's a pain to have to haul everything and pack and unpack everything every day. With this mall, I can leave my stuff there and not have to haul it. Plus I have the option to be able to sell everyday or just on the weekends.

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    Could you start out with only the inventory you have on the week ends, maybe?
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    Alot of wholesale companies will give you one month credit. You just have to provide them with your wholesale license, tax ID#, etc..
    What kind of products do you guys specialize in?
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    do you have a college around? usually they have a small business association that will help you secure a loan. i've been thru this, we had to make a business plan, etc and present it to them. when your loan is approved, it is guaranteed to be paid back if you default. Fortunately, most of the loans here have not been defaulted on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buglebe View Post
    Could you start out with only the inventory you have on the week ends, maybe?
    I have enough that I could fill a kiosk right now but not a store. I talked to my husband earlier and that is what we are leaning towards doing. It's just disappointing passing up on the bigger deals because we don't have a place to put it all. Last week I had an offer on a truckload of all Coleman products for $4000. But, I can't unload a truck at my home. Plus I don't have the room to store a whole truckload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airbuswife View Post
    do you have a college around? usually they have a small business association that will help you secure a loan. i've been thru this, we had to make a business plan, etc and present it to them. when your loan is approved, it is guaranteed to be paid back if you default. Fortunately, most of the loans here have not been defaulted on.
    Those loans are generally from the SBA (small business administration) and require a lot to get one. I worked on the one for my Uncle for one of his restaurants - he has exceptional credit, 7 other restaurants and a good track record for the type of restaurant he was opening - it was also about 4 years ago. Loans these days are virtually impossible to get unless you have a proven track record and exceptional credit and something that they can hang onto if you default (like a second mortgage on your home). Unfortunately you are trying to open a business in an unknown location and you don't have good credit. So you can try but please realize that you will hear a lot of no's these days. Also remember if you are planning on having a store front and leaving your stock there you will need to have General Liability insurance in case of theft. Just because you are in a "mall" doesn't mean you don't need the coverage - unless you can replenish all of the stock from your pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi37 View Post
    The place where we would be selling is a mall the has now been turned into all flea market vendors. There are kiosks in the mall and storefronts. They are planning on doing a lot of advertising. They just purchased a billboard. And they are doing radio, tv and newspaper advertising. We are tired of doing just the regular flea markets. It's a pain to have to haul everything and pack and unpack everything every day. With this mall, I can leave my stuff there and not have to haul it. Plus I have the option to be able to sell everyday or just on the weekends.
    Do not count on anyone advertising for you. I would bet my advertising budget for a month that the mall will do a 1 time advertising for everyone renting there not for just 1 vendor. I have to run the marketing & advertising for our business & it is so hard to have your business stand out from the 5 other companies that are doing similar work.

    You will still have to carry liability & theft insurance. You will have to go to the bank with a firm business plan in place with accurate & firm numbers. The bank WILL want to know what numbers you are anticipating for your first year. You will NEED to have those numbers. What will you use as colleraterol? Trust me banks will not lend money if you have nothing to be able to repay them if this venture doesn't work.
    We've been in business, at the same location with inventory for 25 years & an showing a profit. We are just trying to increase our credit line to re-do our showroom & it is a total nitemare. I've been pulling records for the last 10 years. They practically want my first grandchild & I am just an employee.
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