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Originally Posted by
fleabones3
Its hard and frustrating.. especially when you know they KNOW what they are supposed to do and refuse. At that age, 3+ yrs old.. they know they got the power LOL. So take the power away. They wanna go to the store with you, tell them nope, I am not taking anybody who still has to wear diapers or pull ups."
You are right.The only problem I have with the tough approach is that my son has never pooped in the potty.I would be afraid of the encopresis issue if I were to just not buy pull-ups.I know I need to get a little tougher,just not sure how tough to go,kwim?
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07-22-2008 07:24 PM
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This sounds awful,but many yrs ago when I was training my daughter,she just wouldnt get it,after days of pulling my hair out,speaking to my pedi,she whispers in my ear,she says----make her wear her panties on her head,lmao,I said WHAT?----yes,she says,they hate that,if there wet,they want them off there body fast,she said a granny woman told her about this,and 1 of her patients mommy tryed and it worked.She says it doesnt hurt them,may sound bad,but if it works thats a wonderful thing.
So I go home,she pees her panties,I look at her and smile-lmao,stuck her wet panties on her head,made her wear them for like 20 minutes,she bellowed,lmao,screamed,thru a bad fit,but she wore those darn drawers on her head,yes she did,lol,and she peed them again,the next day,she wore the drawers once again,had a short fit,then guess what???? Bingo,she never did it ever again,she was broke. Sounds mean,sounds odd,but you never know what will work.
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Omg was son was terrible. Finally had to make a game out of it. Threw a few Cherrios cereal in the toilet bowl and told him to shoot at them. It worked and now I can laugh about it! Wish you the best of luck!
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Originally Posted by
luvcub
This sounds awful,but many yrs ago when I was training my daughter,she just wouldnt get it,after days of pulling my hair out,speaking to my pedi,she whispers in my ear,she says----make her wear her panties on her head,lmao,I said WHAT?----yes,she says,they hate that,if there wet,they want them off there body fast,she said a granny woman told her about this,and 1 of her patients mommy tryed and it worked.She says it doesnt hurt them,may sound bad,but if it works thats a wonderful thing.
So I go home,she pees her panties,I look at her and smile-lmao,stuck her wet panties on her head,made her wear them for like 20 minutes,she bellowed,lmao,screamed,thru a bad fit,but she wore those darn drawers on her head,yes she did,lol,and she peed them again,the next day,she wore the drawers once again,had a short fit,then guess what???? Bingo,she never did it ever again,she was broke. Sounds mean,sounds odd,but you never know what will work.
I knew a lady that did that to her daughter when she wet the bed but she made her wear them much longer than a few minutes The problem is when he pees himself he couldnt careless if he walks around in it all day
Originally Posted by
mirage7000
Omg was son was terrible. Finally had to make a game out of it. Threw a few Cherrios cereal in the toilet bowl and told him to shoot at them. It worked and now I can laugh about it! Wish you the best of luck!
yep that worked great with my first son.......not this one
He was SO excited when we went and got more new udies with Spongebob on them the other day I thought oh surely he will do it this time.......nope nothing. I even let him go the other day w/out anything on thinking well since I know he stops to go potty he will stop and think go to the potty right??? WRONG he took a dump in my son's room
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I don't have any advice. I just wanted to wish you and ilovecats good luck. It has to be very frustrating.
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Originally Posted by
BeanieLuvR
I don't have any advice. I just wanted to wish you and ilovecats good luck. It has to be very frustrating.
thanx I really need it
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January 16, 1940 to April 29, 2009
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I do feel your pain. My second son (also my youngest!) would mostly pee in the potty, but never poo. He was about 3 1/2. My pede told me not to push it. Easy for him to say, he wasn't cleaning it up.
My son loved motorcycles at the time. We would buy the ones at Walmart that were like 2 bucks a peice. He had a whole bucket full. His motorcycles were his absolute favorite thing in the whole world. One day I was so fed up when pooped his pants I took them all away. He wasn't allowed to have them back until he used the potty. He started using the potty that very next day. For him it was just laziness. I hit him where it hurt by taking his motorcylces.
Good luck.
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Are there any males around that your son really enjoys spending time with? I mean, gets REALLY excited when he hears they're coming over? Have him spend some quality potty time with that guy. Tell your son that this special person thinks that big guys who use the potty are the coolest. And how much fun it would be to hang out with this big guy, but he can only do it if he can learn to potty like the big guys.
Sometimes it's easier for boys to learn if they have a guy around to show them the ropes.
I had girls, so my situation was a bit different. But I did have friends who had boys, and I understand your dilema. One thing I did with my girls, I let them pick out panties themselves. But they couldn't just wear them any old time. They were rewards. They wore those ugly white training pants, with rubber pants over them. That way, they knew when they had an accident, but my carpets, couches, whatever, didn't suffer the consequences. Pretty soon, they decided they didn't like the feeling of wet pants covered in plastic, and got with the program. Then they got the reward panties. Oh happy day!
Good luck. Training is not fun. But I've never seen a high school graduate in pull ups, so it can be done. lol
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Originally Posted by
magenta
I do feel your pain. My second son (also my youngest!) would mostly pee in the potty, but never poo. He was about 3 1/2. My pede told me not to push it. Easy for him to say, he wasn't cleaning it up.
My son loved motorcycles at the time. We would buy the ones at Walmart that were like 2 bucks a peice. He had a whole bucket full. His motorcycles were his absolute favorite thing in the whole world. One day I was so fed up when pooped his pants I took them all away. He wasn't allowed to have them back until he used the potty. He started using the potty that very next day. For him it was just laziness. I hit him where it hurt by taking his motorcylces.
Good luck.
that might be it for Ethan as well he LOVES anything with wheels and there are a ton of them here lol
Originally Posted by
freeplease
Are there any males around that your son really enjoys spending time with? I mean, gets REALLY excited when he hears they're coming over? Have him spend some quality potty time with that guy. Tell your son that this special person thinks that big guys who use the potty are the coolest. And how much fun it would be to hang out with this big guy, but he can only do it if he can learn to potty like the big guys.
Sometimes it's easier for boys to learn if they have a guy around to show them the ropes.
I had girls, so my situation was a bit different. But I did have friends who had boys, and I understand your dilema. One thing I did with my girls, I let them pick out panties themselves. But they couldn't just wear them any old time. They were rewards. They wore those ugly white training pants, with rubber pants over them. That way, they knew when they had an accident, but my carpets, couches, whatever, didn't suffer the consequences. Pretty soon, they decided they didn't like the feeling of wet pants covered in plastic, and got with the program. Then they got the reward panties. Oh happy day!
Good luck. Training is not fun. But I've never seen a high school graduate in pull ups, so it can be done. lol
Ethan gets all excited when dad comes home and he has tried taking him and he does get excited when dad goes potty but couldnt careless about doing it himself lol I wonder if I get some of those plastic covers for his undies if that might make him think twice about going on himself
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January 16, 1940 to April 29, 2009
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My son was easy: trained at 18 months, on his own. He decided he wanted to learn big potty. So, I made a deal with him.
If he tries to make it, and has an accident: I will clean it up.....
If he wets or poops and does not try to make it to the bathroom: he cleans himself and his underwear. The first time he had to clean himself: WAS THE LAST. He trained in one day. He said it was gross, and I agreed. But he still had to clean it up. He never had accidents either.
I never used a potty chair: I got 2 large dictionaries, and placed them in a garbage bag (for protection) and sat them in front of the toilet so he could stand on them
My daughter!!!! I thought she would go to school in diapers! She was 3 years, 9 months when she finally did it. And, she did it herself. Nothing I tried worked, so I finally gave up, and decided she never needed to potty train. One day she was in the bath, and yelled she had to potty. NOW.
So I helped her out of the tub. And she went. That was it.
And, it was on my husband's birthday! What a gift! he was thrilled: no more diapers.
She did have night accidents for a while, then I started picking her up about 3 hours after putting her to bed (still asleep) and carrying her to the toilet, and telling her to go: she would go. Soon, she started taking herself to the bathroom at about that time every night. No more accidents.
I never tried to force them to train. I tried a few tricks, never got mad, and never punished them for not training. I just let it happen, and tried to encourage it when I could. But, they have to want it. And, some kids just do not want to let that last piece of baby go. He will learn. Take your time, let it go and relax. He will get there.
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Originally Posted by
fleabones3
I recently read a article on this a while back, and it may sound mean or too tough... but...
It was written by a father and a doctor. It said that any child over the age of 2 knows the sensations of having to go, and are completely old enough and ready to be trained. At the age of your son, it sounds like now its more of a power struggle.
The article said to throw away all diapers and such, take all toys out of their room. hand him the underwear, tell him thats what he is going to wear from now on. He has to earn his toys back, 1 at a time, by " going to the potty". Now, he is sure to have some accidents, but I am sure you will know what is a true accident, and what is being lazy.
It sounds tough, but I had to pretty much do that with one of my kids too.
Please have him throughly checked out by a doctor to make sure it is really laziness before you go to this extreme. My sissys little boy has serious issues w/ his bladder and is still at 5 having accidents that he just can't control. He doesn't complain of pain and his mom thought it was laziness, too, but the doc says no way and to never punish him over it. Not saying it IS a medical problem w/ yours, just saying pls find out before punishing.
Also wanted to add... he does KNOW when he needs to pee most of the time, he gets the sensation, he just sometimes can not (not will not, simply can't) control it.
Last edited by justme23; 07-23-2008 at 09:22 AM.
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