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ummmmmm I am entirely too biased in favor of the entire Rousch organization to make a fair call on this.
Rousch has dominated NASCAR this season, as it should be. The entire Rousch organization is the epitome of honesty & integrity in NASCAR.
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11-15-2002 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by nanajoanie
I say give Mark back his 25 points. He earned them. The spring deal wasn't his fault. If there needs to be a penality, fine the crew.
Although the ruling is consistent with others, I agree with Joanie...Fine the crewchief, it was his fault not Marks.
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Originally posted by wingsfan
Although the ruling is consistent with others, I agree with Joanie...Fine the crewchief, it was his fault not Marks.
im tending to agree with that.........but I know i come off as biased. I just love mark to bits.
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Originally posted by captorquewrench
The entire Rousch organization is the epitome of honesty & integrity in NASCAR.
Fines issued to Roush racing this year:
1. NASCAR officials announced today penalties for the #6 Ford team in the NASCAR Winston Cup Series because of a rule violation found following Sunday's race at North Carolina Speedway. Mark Martin, driver of the #6 Ford, has been penalized 25 series championship points. In addition, Martin's team owner Jack Roush has been penalized 25 car owner points. A $5,000 fine was issued to crew chief Ben Leslie. All three were penalized under Section 12-4-Q in the NASCAR Winston Cup rule book ("Any determination by NASCAR officials that parts and/or equipment used in the event do not conform to NASCAR rules."), because of an unapproved front spring. The left front coil spring on the #6 Ford had approximately 4 3/8 (four-and-three-eighths) coils. The required minimum number of coils is 4 1/2 (four-and-one-half). This is the third time this season officials have taken points from NASCAR Winston Cup teams because of unapproved coil springs.
2. A $1,000 fine, under sections 12-4-A and 12-4-Q to Ben Leslie, crew chief of the #6 Viagra Ford. The car was found to have unapproved rear window straps.
3. NASCAR has announced that Ben Leslie, crew chief of the #6 Viagra Ford, received a $50,000 fine for a rule violation found during post-race inspection following Sunday’s Coca-Cola Racing Family 600 at Lowe’s Motor Speedway in Concord, NC. Leslie was penalized under Section 12-4-T in the 2002 NASCAR Winston Cup Series rule book, "Any car that is found to be under the specified height requirement after the completion… of the race." The minimum height requirement is 51 inches - the No. 6 car was approximately 1/8 of an inch too low.
4. NASCAR penalized Kurt Busch $10,000 Thursday for intentionally driving into Robby Gordon’s Chevrolet with five laps remaining in The Winston last Saturday night at Lowe’s Motor Speedway. Busch was fined under section 12-4-A in the 2002 Winston Cup Series rulebook, which cites “actions detremental to stock car racing…” "It was a bit harsh for what happened in a non-points event, but that was Saturday and this is Thursday," Busch said. "It was for the remarks after Saturday's event."
5. NASCAR officials have announced penalties for two NASCAR Winston Cup crew chiefs. Jimmy Fennig, crew chief of the #97 Ford, received a $1,000 fine for a rule violation found during pre-race inspection prior to Sunday's Virginia 500 at Martinsville Speedway. Fennig was penalized under Section 12-4-Q in the 2002 NASCAR Winston Cup Series rule book, "Any determination by NASCAR Officials that parts and or equipment used in the Event do not conform to NASCAR rules: deck lid."
6. NASCAR officials announced today they have penalized NASCAR Winston Cup Series crew chief Matt Chambers for rules violations (shoulder harness) discovered in preliminary inspection prior to the Cracker Barrel Old Country Store 500 at Atlanta Motor Speedway in Hampton, Ga. Chambers, crew chief of the #97 NASCAR Winston Cup Series team, was fined $5,000 and suspended from the next two NASCAR Winston Cup Series races (suspension ends April 4, 2001). Chambers was penalized under Section 12-4-Q in the 2001 NASCAR Winston Cup Series rule book: "Any determination by NASCAR Officials that parts and/or equipment used in the Event do not conform... or have not been approved by NASCAR..."
7. Frankie Stoddard #99-Ford, Oversized fuel cell container $250
Also the #31 team committed the same violation on 9/7 as #6. The penalty was exactly the same. I don't hear anyone complaining that his fine was too severe.
Like Nascar38 said "Rules are Rules"
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MrsSpeed......
I will not be baited. This happens to all of the teams. They all get fines, they all receive penalties. Look at the integrity of the drivers, however; their sportmanships & behavior on & off track and therein is where I make my point. A lot of the fines & penalties, across the board for all teams, can be chalked up to error and/or oversight, plain & simple.
Would you happen to have the same type list of fines/penalties for DEI, Joe Gibbs, Penske, or Jeffie's cars, or where the links could be found? Through nascar.com? I'd be interested in seeing all of them, each team's fines/penalties. Have not been able to follow as closely this season as I had hoped.
Last edited by captorquewrench; 11-15-2002 at 08:42 AM.
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Here is the page where you can find all the fines/penalties issued this year. http://jayski.thatsracin.com/pages/penalties.htm Jayski knows just about everything there is to know about Nascar.
The driver's integrity is all fine and good. I really like Mark Martin. But the driver isn't the only member of the team. It's just that A TEAM.
I'm not trying to bait you. I just wanted to show you that your statement about honesty and integrity may not be completely true. It may be true about Mark Martin, Jeff Burton & Matt Kenseth. I won't say Kurt Busch because it's not true about him. But that's another story.
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thanks!
i usually just hit nascar.com for highlights.......but i feel like they're biased and a lotta hype.
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OH YES!! I rarely visit Nascar.com because it usually is full of a bunch of bias and hype.
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