Thread: Who you gonna believe - Obama or Webster ??

"It all depends on what the meaning of the word is, is" Bill Clinton.

I don't give a hoot what Obama's definition of a tax is. We all know a tax is money we HAVE to pay the govenment. If the government makes people buy insurance and they don't want to buy it then it is a tax.

Young healthy people who are just starting out don't necessarily need insurance and they can get by for a long time without it. They don't have that much money so they don't buy it. They have a ton of other expenses.

He must think we're all too dumb to realize anything. Sometimes he just sounds arrogant and condescending.

Personally I don't mind paying a bit more in taxes if it means enabling someone to get needed medical care. I already do that for seniors and veterans so why not the anyone else? As long as they are citizens I cannot justify greedily hoarding a few extra dollars and in turn telling someone who lost their job that they are SOL and try not to breathe around sick people.

Originally Posted by janelle

"It all depends on what the meaning of the word is, is" Bill Clinton.

I don't give a hoot what Obama's definition of a tax is. We all know a tax is money we HAVE to pay the govenment. If the government makes people buy insurance and they don't want to buy it then it is a tax.

Young healthy people who are just starting out don't necessarily need insurance and they can get by for a long time without it. They don't have that much money so they don't buy it. They have a ton of other expenses.

I was a young healthy person fresh out of college with no dependants and no insurance for over 2 years. Every day I was scared to drive thinking that if I was ever in a hit and run I was screwed. Every time I got a cold I was worried that it wouldn't get better. When my grandma got sick and was in the hospital I avoided visiting her because I knew I could not afford to get sick. I would gladly have paid for insurance but private insurance cost way more than I could afford and even though I worked 2 jobs totalling over 80 hours at times neither company considered me a full time employee so I couldn't get benefits from them. One company was a very small company and was not required to offer benefits. The other only worked me full time hours for special projects but my regular hours were 30/week which was low enough that they didn't have to give me benefits. I very nearly joined the military just so I could get health insurance and have a stable employer.

Please don't make broad sweeping statements. especially when they aren't true. Yes, most young, healthy people with no dependants aren't that worried or concerned as I was. But the fact remains that even they can't really afford to be without insurance. One serious illness, slip on the ice, or hit and run accident and they are screwed. They can get by without it only so long as they are lucky enough to not need it. Unless they are fortune tellers, they don't know when that luck will run out.

Originally Posted by Bahet

Please don't make broad sweeping statements. especially when they aren't true. Yes, most young, healthy people with no dependants aren't that worried or concerned as I was. But the fact remains that even they can't really afford to be without insurance. One serious illness, slip on the ice, or hit and run accident and they are screwed. They can get by without it only so long as they are lucky enough to not need it. Unless they are fortune tellers, they don't know when that luck will run out.

Amen to that. I've always been pretty healthy. But at the ripe old age of 24, I was rushed to the hospital for major pains in my side. It turned out I had gallbladder disease. If I didn't get my gallbladder removed, I ran the risk of a stone breaking off and blocking a bile duct or getting cancer. Had I not had insurance, I would've been $30,000 in debt over getting sick before I was even 25. Unfortunately, I know that does happen to some young people and it really really sucks.

Anyone who is without medical insurance should check with the company they insure their home and cars with. If you get a major medical (high deductible) you save a large amount if you are hospitalized. Usually there is a big write off on the hospital bill because of the insurance. Also you are insuring yourself for things that would be much to expensive to pay off over time. After all insurance is all about risk.

Government run health care could get extremely expensive and would end up more than the average tax payer can afford. It seems like the more government involvement means more waste.

Originally Posted by SurferGirl

Anyone who is without medical insurance should check with the company they insure their home and cars with. If you get a major medical (high deductible) you save a large amount if you are hospitalized. Usually there is a big write off on the hospital bill because of the insurance. Also you are insuring yourself for things that would be much to expensive to pay off over time. After all insurance is all about risk.

Government run health care could get extremely expensive and would end up more than the average tax payer can afford. It seems like the more government involvement means more waste.

If it were this easy we wouldn't be arguing over healthcare.

Originally Posted by nightrider127

Shelbydog, I hear advertisements for health insurance all the time. Now how good it is or how much it costs, I don't know. But there is insurance out there.

I do to, in fact after I graduated high school I had medical insurance through my car insurance company State Farm, it was expensive considering the limited coverage for cost.

This is not the answer people are looking for, for healthcare.....