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    Iraq Constitution May Erode Women's Rights

    Headed straight for religious rule it seems....

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._re_mi_ea/iraq

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - A chapter of
    Iraq's draft constitution obtained by The Associated Press gives Islam a major role in Iraqi civil law, raising concerns that women could lose rights in marriage, divorce and inheritance.
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    The proposal also appears to rule out non-governmental militias, an area addressed Monday by the new U.S. ambassador, Zalmay Khalilzad. Urging Iraqis to build national institutions, he said there is no place for factional forces that "build the infrastructure for a future civil war."

    The civil law section, one of six to make up Iraq's new charter, covers the rights and duties of citizens and public and private freedoms. The language in the chapter is not final, but members of the charter drafting committee said there was agreement on most of its wording.

    Committee members have been rushing to complete the constitution so the Iraqi National Assembly can set the final wording by Aug. 15. Parliament's version would be put to a public vote by mid-October, and if approved, elections would follow by the year's end.

    The drafting panel's efforts got a boost Monday when its 12 Sunni Arab members ended a boycott, easing fears the document might be rejected by the ethnic community at the heart of the insurgency.

    Sunni Arab support is crucial because the charter can be scuttled if voters in three of Iraq's 18 provinces reject it by a two-thirds majority — and Sunni Arabs are a majority in four provinces. Sunni Arabs make up about 20 percent of Iraq's 27 million people but dominate areas where the insurgency is raging.

    A Sunni member of the constitutional commission, Saleh al-Mutlaq, told AP that he and his 11 colleagues agreed to resume work after receiving assurances from the government that their grievances would be addressed.

    Those concerns included better security after last week's assassination of two colleagues, which triggered the boycott, and for an expanded role for the Sunni Arab minority in the constitutional deliberations.

    On Tuesday, Iraq's most feared terrorist group warned Sunni Arabs against taking part in the October referendum on the constitution, saying their participation would make them infidels — and therefore subject to the same treatment as occupation forces.

    In a statement posted on the Internet, al-Qaida in Iraq slammed recent calls by some Sunni leaders encouraging the religious minority, who form the core of the current insurgency, to get involved in the political process.

    Most worrying for women's groups has been the section on civil rights in the draft constitution, which some feel would significantly roll back women's rights under a 1959 civil law enacted by a secular regime.

    In the copy obtained by AP on Monday, Article 19 of the second chapter says "the followers of any religion or sect are free to choose their civil status according to their religious or sectarian beliefs."

    Shiite Muslim leaders have pushed for a stronger role for Islam in civil law but women's groups argue that could base legal interpretations on stricter religious lines that are less favorable toward women.

    Committee members said Monday they had taken account of women's concerns, but said they were not planning to make changes since the National Assembly will have final say on the wording.

    Committee member Khudayer al-Khuzai said Muslims would be free to choose which Islamic sect they want to be judged by under the proposed civil law.

    "We will not force anyone to adopt any sect at all. People are free to choose the sect they see as better or more legitimate. This is implemented in marriage, inheritance and all civil rights," he said.

    Not all Shiite laws are disadvantageous for women. Many Sunni Muslims who have only daughters prefer to follow Shiite religious law when it comes to inheritance since daughters inherit everything their parents leave. Under Sunni rules, daughters have to share their inheritance with uncles, aunts and grandparents.

    While not specifically addressing militias, the draft chapter would permit Iraqis to form only political parties and would ban individuals from possessing weapons.

    "There is no place for militias," said al-Khuzai, a Shiite. "We have even made it clear for non-governmental organizations that they should not have any secret or military activities."

    Earlier in the day, the U.S. ambassador spoke against militias — a clear signal to groups in Iraq's dominant Shiite Arab and Kurdish communities that have maintained armed groups since they were in opposition to
    Saddam Hussein's regime.

    Khalilzad, who took up his ambassador's post over the weekend, told reporters the U.S. government believes Iraqis must focus on building strong national institutions.

    "Regarding the militias, of course, our position is clear," he said. "... We don't want to do anything that creates longer term problems for Iraq in terms of the problem of warlordism or the problem of building an infrastructure for a future civil war."

    In other areas, the chapter obtained by AP would make the judiciary independent, require public trials, ban torture and require a judicial order to detain anyone. Child labor, which flourished in the 1990s after the
    United Nations imposed sanctions on Iraq, would be banned.

    Also, the draft would prevent tens of thousands of Iraqi Jews who emigrated to
    Israel in the 1950s from getting back their Iraqi citizenship. It says only Iraqis who lost their citizenship after Saddam's Baath Party came to power in 1963 "will be allowed to get it back."

    In other developments:

    _In separate attacks in Baghdad, gunmen fatally shot a police officer as he was driving from his home in the Shiite enclave of Sadr City, while a Health Ministry employee was shot multiple times during a morning attack in the eastern suburb of Maamil.

    _Gunmen in southern Basra attacked a police patrol, killing a policeman and a civilian.

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    Re: Iraq Constitution May Erode Women's Rights

    They're a country in transition. I think that there are times when you want to impose rights and there are times when you want them to make mistakes and then amend them later. Let them make their mistakes. We can't make them follow our laws. Over time things will change.
    I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints.

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    10:57 AM, May 28, 2016 / LAST MODIFIED: 12:18 PM, May 28, 2016

    Explained: Pakistan bill allowing husbands to 'lightly beat' their wives

    The CII’s proposed bill claims women will have all the rights given to them under Shariah, prohibits interaction between na-mehrams at recreational spots and offices, and bans ‘dance, music, and sculptures created in the name of art’.

    Earlier this year, the Punjab Assembly passed a women’s protection bill,which the CII and religious parties strongly rejected, declaring it ‘unIslamic’.

    The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) government sent a similar bill to the Council for review, which it rejected on the basis of being ‘unIslamic’, and announced it will prepare a ‘model’ bill in response.

    The proposed 163-point bill will be deliberated on Thursday and Friday. Copies of the bill have been sent to all provincial assemblies as the CII’s recommendations.

    Salient points from the proposed bill address property, marriage, motherhood, crimes and violence against women, apostasy, and even venture into the instruments of state ‘acceptable’ for a woman to be involved in.

    Farzana Bari, human rights activist and academic at Quaid-i-Azam University, termed the proposed bill unconstitutional.

    “Allowing a husband to beat his wife, in any way, is against Pakistan’s Constitution and the international laws and treaties that Pakistan has signed and is bound by. This Council is a burden on the Pakistani taxpayer and bringing a bad name to Muslims throughout the world.”
    The controversial alternative bill was prepared after the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) rejected Punjabs Protection of Women against Violence Act (PPWA) 2015, as un-Islamic.

    Not allowing adult women to work and keeping them at home is to treat them like children or property, she added.

    “This will take Pakistan further into ignorance.”
    KEY PROPOSALS IN THE BILL

    Property

    --Women will have the right to own property

    --Women have the right to bequeath property

    Marriage

    --A husband may, when needed, lightly beat his wife

    --Three consecutive declarations of divorce will be punishable (punishment unspecified)

    --A guardian’s permission is not required for a woman who has reached maturity to contract a nikah

    --A wife has the right to khula if she forfeits alimony

    --A wife may move the court in case of 'excesses' by husband

    --Contracting a marriage for Vani or dispute resolution is punishable (punishment unspecified)

    --Contracting a woman’s marriage to a Quran will be a crime carrying a ten-year sentence

    --Ban on the request and display of dowry

    State

    --Women will be permitted to participate in politics

    --Women are not responsible for participation in combat missions

    --It is forbidden to kill a woman in war

    --Women may become judges

    --Women will not be permitted to receive foreign officials and state guests

    Religion

    --Forcing any woman to convert carries a three-year prison sentence

    --A woman cannot be killed/executed for 'leaving Islam'

    --A woman of sound mind is permitted to convert to Islam

    Crime

    --Acid attacks and violent acts against women such as throwing acid on women should be thoroughly investigated

    --Ban on honour killing, Karo kari, and siyah kari

    Work and education

    --Ban on co-education past the primary level

    --Co-education past the primary level may be permitted if hijab is made mandatory and free mixing between the genders is not allowed

    --A ban on women working in 'vulgar' advertisements

    --Female nurses should not attend to male patients

    --Women should not be forced into difficult, 'labour-intensive' work

    Motherhood

    --Mothers must breastfeed for two years

    --Ban on advertisements baby formula/substitutes for breast milk

    --A woman cannot use contraception without the husband’s permission

    --An abortion after 120 days will be classified as murder


    http://www.thedailystar.net/world/as...ouncil-1230715
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