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    Boy Scouts vote to end ban on openly gay youth members

    By Jason Sickles, Yahoo! | The Lookout – 13 mins ago..

    DALLAS – The Boy Scouts of America, one of the country’s largest and oldest youth organizations, decided Thursday to break 103 years of tradition by allowing openly gay members into its ranks.

    The controversial move was approved by more than 60 percent of the approximate 1,400 votes cast by the BSA’s national council. According to the new resolution, beginning Jan. 1, 2014, "no youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone.”

    “The resolution also reinforces that Scouting is a youth program, and any sexual conduct, whether heterosexual or homosexual, by youth of Scouting age is contrary to the virtues of Scouting,” the BSA stated in a press release. Lifting the organization’s ban on gay adult volunteer leaders and paid staff was not considered and remains in place.

    The historic change comes 13 years after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that BSA is a private club that is allowed to set its own rules for membership. Since then, public pressure has mounted for the Texas-based organization to change the exclusion, especially last year, when a gay California teen was denied his Eagle Scout award and an Ohio lesbian was removed as a den mother from her son’s troop. Still, just 10 months ago, the Scouts reaffirmed their stance, saying a two-year confidential review revealed a majority of the organization’s parents wanted to keep the policy. http://news.yahoo.com/despite-protes...191616255.html

    The about-face to put it to a vote came “out of respect for the diverse beliefs of Scouting's chartered organizations,” according to the BSA website.

    The emotionally charged issue has seen those for and against wage costly public relations campaigns and has fostered intense debate from coast to coast. “My concern all along has been boy-on-boy sexual contact,” John Stemberger, an Eagle Scout and organizer of On My Honor, told the Dallas Morning News in April. “If this resolution passes, it will be open season for gay young men. How do we protect the Scouts who are not gay?”

    Gay-rights activists have held a public summit this week, not far from the location of the annual BSA gathering. “There is nothing Scout-like about exclusion of other people, and there is nothing Scout-like about putting your own religious beliefs before someone else’s,” Zach Wahls, an Eagle Scout and founder of Scouts for Equality, told supporters at a Wednesday rally.

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    An organization with a mission to mold boys into men by building character, values and faith instead chooses to go against it's mission.

    I personally know of three groups that will lose their Charter Organization's support becuase the churches that have hosted Scouting groups for more then fifty years, do not want to be held morally or legally liable. Instead of "Two Deep" leadership and the Buddy system, everyone will have to go to Three Deep - or more. Camping is going to be impacted
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    BREAKING: THE RESOLUTION HAS PASSED
    Click the link below for OnMyHonor.Net's full statement:

    Grapevine, TX – Following the vote today by the Boy Scouts of America’s voting delegates to pass the resolution allowing “open and avowed homosexuality” in the Boy Scouts, John Stemberger, Founder of OnMyHonor.Net, a coalition of members of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) including parents, Scoutmasters, Eagle Scouts and other Scouting leaders who affirm Scouting’s timeless values, made the following statement:

    “It is with great sadness and deep disappointment that we recognize on this day that the most influential youth program in America has turned a tragic corner. The vote today to allow open and avowed homosexuality into Scouting will completely transform it into an unprincipled and risky proposition for parents. It is truly a sad day for Scouting.

    The Boy Scouts of America has a logo that bears the phrase ‘Timeless Values.’ Today, the BSA can no longer use this phrase in good faith. It has demonstrated by its actions that the organization’s values are not timeless, and instead they are governed by changing tides of polls, politics and public opinion.

    The saddest part of today’s decision is what the organization is teaching our children and young people in the program.

    The BSA is teaching our kids that when your values become unpopular, just change them.

    The BSA is teaching our kids that when your convictions are challenged, just cave to peer pressure.

    The BSA is teaching our kids that public opinion polls are more important than principles.

    Today, the BSA is teaching our kids that you should not stand up for what is right instead you should stand up for what is popular.

    The mission of the Boy Scouts of America is to “prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Scout Law.”

    BSA is teaching our kids through its new mission that we don’t make ethical and moral choices through the values of the Scout Oath and Scout Law but we make them like an unprincipled politician does, by putting your finger in the air and seeing which way the wind is blowing or by looking at the latest polling results.

    What kind of a message are we sending to young people about being brave when its top adult leaders don’t even have the courage to stand up to the pressure of a militant lobby when the bullies in Washington DC, Hollywood or even some of their own renegade councils start pressuring and harassing them?

    Each and every one of the thousands of Scouting families that have supported and followed our movement must now make a very difficult decision. We respect the right for each parent and family to decide whether they will continue their membership in the Boy Scouts of American or not.

    Many, like me and my family, cannot continue to support an organization more concerned with the intolerant demands of activists while compromising the safety and security of the young people they swore to serve. In July of last year, after a two year study from 2010 to 2012, the BSA’s eleven member task force unanimously concluded that their existing policy on this issue was “the absolute best policy for the Boy Scouts of America.” Suddenly, less than a year later, that is abruptly reversed.

    We hoped to keep sex and politics out of Scouting. Now we grieve for those young boys who will not have the wonderful traditions and experiences that so many of us have had in Scouting.

    Despite this setback, we will look to the future. I am pleased to announce that OnMyHonor.Net along with other likeminded organizations, parents and BSA members, are announcing a coalition meeting that will take place next month in Louisville, Kentucky. There we will discuss the creation of a new character development organization for boys. While the meeting will be private, your voice is very important to us and will be represented there. We will host and facilitate a national coalition meeting of former BSA parents and other youth leaders who wish to return to truly timeless values that once made the BSA great. We welcome your comments as we develop our plans. Please share your thoughts with us at Contact@OnMyHonor.Net

    We grieve today, not because we are faced with leaving Scouting, but because the Boy Scouts of America has left us. Its leadership has turned its back on 103 years of abiding by a mission to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices. Instead, it is embarking on a pathway of social experimentation that we believe will place at risk the very youth the organization is entrusted to serve, while rendering as hollow the tenets of the Scout Oath. Many of us find that unacceptable, and we have a desire to explore how we might serve families and young people at the highest standard originally intended by Scouting’s founder, Robert Baden-Powell.”

    OnMyHonor.Net is the nationwide coalition of concerned parents, Scout Leaders, Scouting Donors, Eagle Scouts and other members of the BSA who are united in their support of Scouting’s timeless values and in their opposition to open homosexuality in the Boy Scouts. More information at www.OnMyHonor.Net.

    For further information, please contact Jameson Cunningham or Dan Wilson with Shirley & Banister Public Affairs at (703) 739-5920 or (800) 536-5920.

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    The BSA's membership resolution has passed with more than 60 percent of the vote.
    Details here: http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/201...rcent-of-vote/
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    Good Boy Scouts don't need God

    by Tom Krattenmaker, USA TODAY

    Published: 05/12/2013 04:47pm




    Depending on what happens at the Boy Scouts' national meeting this month, gay Scouts might soon be accepted into the venerable organization. Even then, there will remain a large and growing group of Americans still barred by the Boy Scouts.

    When will the Boy Scouts accept the non-religious?

    The Boy Scouts of America recognizes an impressive range of religious affiliations that qualify one as "reverent" and, thus, eligible to participate. Two dozen varieties of Christianity get the nod, plus Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, Bahai'ism and more. However, the non-religious are not welcome, and that poses a problem the Boy Scouts should address in addition to the sexual orientation question drawing so much attention.

    Undergirding the Boy Scouts' ban is the dubious premise that people cannot be moral without religious belief. It's an assumption that non-believers are wisely challenging as the public face of atheism moves away from angry anti-religious diatribes, typified by the late Christopher Hitchens, toward a positive expression of non-belief summed up by the pithy phrase "good without God."

    Can atheists be good Scouts? Neil Polzin's story suggests a resounding "yes." Polzin, now 29, contributed to a successful life-and-death rescue operation during a Boy Scouts backpacking trip when he was 13. He later became an Eagle Scout and an aquatics program director as an adult. In 2009, as he tells it, a rival who wanted his job made an issue of the fact that Polzin is an atheist. Hoping to clear the air, Polzin notified his regional council of his atheism — and was unceremoniously booted.

    One would think that his long track record would have proved his skill and moral worthiness by that point. But all the years of good Scouting and service were erased by a single dreaded word: atheist.

    Margaret Downey, president of the Freethought Society (and the mother of a young man who was barred from the Scouts as a boy), is leveraging the new focus on Boy Scout inclusion policies to prompt a fresh look at its ban on atheists. Downey welcomes the new momentum for inclusion of gay Scouts. Even so, she asks, why no consideration of non-believing boys, too? "There is no question that people can be good without a god belief," Downey says. The Boy Scouts offer a great program, she adds, "yet their bigoted membership policies are harmful."

    Welcoming non-believers might seem a difficult bridge to cross for the Boy Scouts and traditionalists who defend current membership requirements. Wouldn't acceptance of atheists force revisions to the Boy Scout Oath, which pledges duty to God and country? Why should a private, voluntary organization have to do that, particularly when most Scout troops are chartered by churches?

    These and other obstacles can be navigated through nuance, common sense and mutual respect. Let the churches that charter Scout troops adopt the attitude that churches usually adopt when it comes to non-believers: Welcome them in the hope of having a positive influence on them. Require atheist Scouts to respect the religion of their fellow Scouts, leaders and sponsors, with the assurance that their non-belief will be respected in kind. And, as Downey suggests, an additional "o" can go a long way; let the atheist Scout pledge his devotion to "good" rather than "God."

    Ultimately, it would be self-defeating for the Boy Scouts to forfeit the chance to spread Scouting skills and values among the population of people who identify as atheist, agnostic, or otherwise not religious. More and more youths are growing up in non-religious homes; why would the organization squander the opportunity to serve and influence these boys?

    Yes, as a private association, the Boy Scouts have a right to decide for themselves who's in and who's out. But just because they can exclude atheists doesn't mean they should.

    "There are millions of young, secular Americans committed to civic duty, community service and personal improvement," says August Brunsman, executive director of the Secular Student Alliance. "They're looking to serve their country alongside their religious friends, and it's long past time for the Boy Scouts to wake up and let these admirable young men serve."

    It's the right thing to do. And here's the bonus: Once the Boy Scouts open up to non-believers, they're going to discover they have a lot to contribute — just as they've been contributing all along.



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    Thoughts on the Boy Scouts & gays
    Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 12:27 pm - May 23, 2013.

    Those who have read my posts and considered my basic political philosophy can probably figure out my views on whether or not the Boy Scouts should admit openly gay youths — and scoutmasters.

    As a private organization, they have the right to determine the qualifications for membership and leadership. The state should stay out of it. That said, I believe they should allow gay people to participate.

    Now, to be sure, given the scandals in the Catholic Church (where most of the victims have been teenage boys), I can understand why they might be wary of having gay (male) scoutmasters. But, there are ways to screen their leaders to make sure they don’t bring on men who would abuse boys. Most (but alas not all) gay men would never even consider taking advantage of teenagers, particularly those in their charge.

    That said, I just don’t get why they would bar lesbians from being scoutmasters. Lesbians tend not to be interested in boys and would not definitely molest them. Thus, I was struck earlier today when HotAir linked this New York Times story, featuring a picture of a mother ousted as a “scout leader because she is a lesbian.”

    The leadership of the Boy Scouts should make the decision on allowing openly gay members and scoutmasters. And I would like to see them change their policy.

    NB: I had been meaning to blog on this topic for some time, but keep putting it off as I would like to write a more comprehensive, insightful post. But, my time being limited, this short piece will have to suffice. For now.

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    Whatever happened to the scandal that a lot of boy scouts were molested by scout masters? I haven't heard anything else about it. If its truie people are doing a lot to keep it quiet because they want to protect the boy scout organization. I thought it was pretty wide spread.

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    When we joined BSA 12 years ago - they ran background checks on registered Leaders. Most of the complaints date back further then that - when the general attitude towards this type of thing was "don't ask - don't tell". Now - they run background checks on EVERYONE associated with the Units.... parents and anyone who signs up as "Akela" which is the person responible for that child.

    I don't think that "gay" = pedaphile... but in a culture that encourages people to file a lawsuit every time they get their feelings hurt ... this is going to open up Charter Organizations to moral and legal liabilty
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    Boy Scouts leaders vote to allow gay members
    By Ryan Broussard Advocate staff writer May 23, 2013

    The Boy Scouts of America’s National Council’s decision Thursday to allow gay members was met with mixed reaction in the Istrouma Area Council in Baton Rouge, with some leaders seeing the change as positive and others expecting drops in membership and financial support.

    Eric Howell, chief executive officer of the Istrouma Area Council, attended a convention of about 1,400 council members in Grapevine, Texas.

    The voting body passed a resolution to open the group’s ranks to gay Scouts — but not gay Scout leaders — with the changes scheduled to go into effect Jan. 1.

    Howell said an independent company tabulated Thursday’s votes and about 61 percent of the members voted “yes” to pass the resolution, based on what he heard.

    The four members of the Istrouma Area Council, which covers 13 parishes in Louisiana and one county in Mississippi, voted “no,” which Howell said was in line with the opinions of the stakeholders the group serves.

    “The stakeholders had the opportunity to voice their opinion, and we were there to listen,” Howell said.

    The Istrouma Area Council held several meetings with parents and Scouts in the past several months and Howell said the resounding tenor was that the stakeholders opposed the change.

    Although the group voted against the policy change, Howell said, the group will abide by it.

    “While people have different opinions about this policy, we can all agree that kids are better off when they are in Scouting,” the BSA said after announcing the results.

    e_SDLqThe Boy Scouts of America will not sacrifice its mission, or the youth served by the movement, by allowing the organization to be consumed by a single, divisive, and unresolved societal issue.”

    However, the outcome will not end the bitter debate over the Scouts’ membership policy.

    Liberal Scout leaders — while supporting the proposal to accept gay youth — have made clear they want the ban on gay adults lifted as well.

    In contrast, conservatives with the Scouts — including some churches that sponsor Scout units — wanted to continue excluding gay youths, in some cases threatening to defect if the ban were lifted.

    “We are deeply saddened,” said Frank Page, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s executive committee after learning of the result. “Homosexual behavior is incompatible with the principles enshrined in the Scout oath and Scout law.”

    Steve Beatty, troopmaster of Troop 478, which operates within the Istrouma Area Council, said the BSA executive committee’s initial proposal in January centered on allowing the local organizations sponsoring the troops, like churches and civic groups, to determine if homosexual members and leaders could join.

    The initial plan won little praise, and the BSA changed course after assessing responses to surveys sent out starting in February to the Scouting community.

    Of the more than 200,000 leaders, parents and youth members who responded, 61 percent supported the current policy of excluding gays, while 34 percent opposed it. However, most parents of young Scouts, as well as youth members themselves, opposed the ban.

    “I know of at least one troop that said they will disband,” Beatty said, but declined to name the troop.

    While Beatty said he personally opposes anything that causes fewer people to be involved in Scouting, which he thinks will happen with the new policy, he favors something opening the door to allow more people to be involved.

    “I’m not opposed to the policy, I’m opposed to the result,” he said. “It’s not an issue that we as scouts should be dealing with.”

    “For me, if it’s one Scout leaving, it’s noteworthy,” Beatty said. “To have one boy not have the benefit of the Scouting program is a loss.”

    The BSA’s overall “traditional youth membership” — Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts and Venturers — is now about 2.6 million, compared with more than 4 million in peak years of the past. It also has about 1 million adult leaders and volunteers.

    Jeff Wittenbrink, a leader in the Istrouma Area Council who has been involved with Scouting for 11 years, echoed Beatty’s statement that people will leave and has been vocal in his opposition to the change.

    “You’re going to see a lot of Scout parents voting with their feet,” he said. “If you would ask the Scout parents to vote, it would have been a completely different thing.”

    He said the National Council’s voting members know the ramifications of the vote and the subsequent changes, but they don’t care.

    Cathie Louis, council advancement chairman and an Istrouma Area Council board member, said for years the Scouts instituted a culture of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” similar to the U.S. military’s old policy for gay servicemen and women and that there have been gay members in Scouting for years.

    “My hope is that a lot of boys will be taken into other units if their church or troop dissolves because of this,” she said.

    Of the more than 100,000 Scouting units in the United States, 70 percent are chartered by religious institutions.

    Those include liberal churches opposed to any ban on gays, but some of the largest sponsors are relatively conservative denominations that have previously supported the broad ban — notably the Roman Catholic Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Southern Baptist churches.

    The BSA, which celebrated its 100th anniversary in 2010, has long excluded both gays and atheists.

    Protests over the no-gays policy gained momentum in 2000, when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the BSA’s right to exclude gays. Scout units lost sponsorships by public schools and other entities that adhered to nondiscrimination policies, and several local Scout councils made public their displeasure with the policy.

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    [i]Commentary: An Open Letter to Southern Baptists
    May 24, 2013 - By R. Chip Turner


    R. Chip Turner, chairman of the BSA Religious Relationships Task Force and past president of the Association of Baptists for Scouting, released this open letter after the Boy Scouts of America voted to end denying membership to boys on the basis of their sexual orientation.

    Results of the much-publicized vote at the 2013 national meeting of the Boy Scouts of America were announced May 23. Understandably, this was not what many Baptist denominations and others wanted to see transpire.

    R. Chip Turner Now what? Before deciding, I urge you to prayerfully consider the following:

    * Are the evangelism and family ministry opportunities now lessened in the church's Scout unit(s)? Are the lost and un-enlisted any less our responsibility now? I respectfully remind us that the Great Commission remains unchanged and no vote can alter this reality.

    Still 'fishers of men'

    The local church still owns its Scout units and is responsible for selecting the leadership. As “fishers of men,” are we not to go where the fish are located? In the case of church-based Scout units, there are unreached people already in your buildings! [In the average Scout unit, as much as 60% of the youth and their families are not currently involved in anyone’s church. What an opportunity!]

    * Are our churches being compelled to accept homosexual leaders or the homosexual lifestyle? No. fact, it remains the responsibility of our churches to hold high a standard. The resolution clearly states that “youth are still developing, learning about themselves and who they are, developing their sense of right and wrong, and understanding their duty to God to live a moral life.” Shouldn’t Baptists be at the forefront in helping youth find answers which are biblically-based?

    Behavior standard still in place

    Keep in mind. Too, that there are a number of membership requirements which must still be met, including affirming the declaration of religious principle, doing one’s “duty to God, and adhering to the principles of the Scout Oath and Law. In addition, a behavior standard is being set forth which disallows sexual behavior of any kind in Scouting.

    Do our churches routinely exclude persons from our other evangelism and outreach efforts or do we seek to reach them where they are with the Good News and help them discover The Way?

    * Do we surrender the opportunity of involving children, youth, and families in the Religious Emblems Program which is an effective tool for reaching Scouts (and entire families) for Christ, discipling them, and helping many clarify their call to vocational Christian service? I pray not!

    * Does it really matter whether or not Baptists are involved in Scouting? First, the obvious answer is "yes" for every Scout, family, and leader in Baptist units. Second, there are tens of thousands of Baptist Scouts and thousands of Baptist Scout leaders involved in Scouting who are not in Baptist units and we should be serving them, too. [The third largest group of Scouts and leaders at the 2013 National Jamboree will be Baptist.]

    * Why not invest our outreach ministry and energies elsewhere? Obviously, you can. But why does it have to be an “either/or” situation?

    Reaching the unreached

    There are many fine children and youth programs in our churches which primarily address those already in the church family. However, what about the unchurched and unreached? Plus, consider the people in your church family who are better members, parents, leaders, and citizens because they had the Scouting experience delivered by godly men and women.

    Dare we deprive our children and grandchildren of this same life-changing experience? Do we surrender this precious opportunity to others who may not share our values. Shall we abandon an organization which needs our influence now more than ever? Future generations hang in the balance.

    The Lord of the Harvest stands ready to help us, guide us, encourage us, empower us, and equip us to reap an abundant ingathering.

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    To God and My Country: Why We're Not Quitting Scouts
    Todd Aglialoro ~ May 27, 2013

    On the wall next to my desk is a small framed piece of calligraphy, a gift from a friend with a talented hand, with this passage from Psalm 127:

    Lo, sons are a heritage from the LORD, the fruit of the womb a reward.

    Like arrows in the hand of a warrior
    are the sons of one's youth.

    Happy is the man who has his quiver full of them!

    He shall not be put to shame when he speaks with his enemies in the gate.
    The occasion of the gift was the birth of my second male child, and it was not just commemorative but prophetic, for since then God has graced us with three more “arrows” for a total of five sons (part of a set with two tough daughters). Accordingly, my house throbs with “boy energy”—as one tactful relative, whose quiet and immaculate home contains three quiet and immaculate girls, once put it instead of saying “dirt, farts, and explosion sounds.”

    Boy energy naturally seeks out boy activity, and along with sports, Legos, and poking dead things with a stick, in my family as in many others that has meant the Boy Scouts of America. We've been involved with the BSA for over a decade, and although the cost in time—driving, volunteering, training, activi-tating—has been sometimes onerous, we've stuck with it because we admire scouting's core values and want our sons to enjoy and learn from them. On top of that, belonging to a parish-sponsored pack or troop adds a Catholic component to scouting's basic pledge to honor God. Scout Masses and prayers, medal programs such as Parvuli Dei and Ad Altare Dei, and volunteerism that emphasizes the corporal works of mercy all make scouting a harmonious meeting place for God and Country, supernatural and natural.

    Among Catholic fathers I wasn't alone, then, in holding my breath while the BSA recently revisited its longstanding policy of excluding avowed homosexual scouts and scout leaders. The radical-feminist cookie cult also known as the Girl Scouts was already a lost cause—were we going to be forced, as a matter of conscience or prudence or both, to part ways with the Boy Scouts, too?

    Well, after the BSA revealed its half-a-loaf solution last Friday (that being the traditional time to announce something you want buried, and this before a holiday weekend to boot), lifting the ban on homosexual scouts but maintaining the ban on homosexual leaders and reiterating its principle that youth sexual activity of any sort is contrary to Scout values... I don't know that the answer is clear.

    For some it certainly is. The Catholic blogosphere and social media circles have been alight with criticism of the BSA's “cave,” and with vows to quit scouting or to start alternative Catholic scout groups. The main critiques can be categorized as follows:

    The BSA betrayed its identity by caving to homosexualist pressure.

    Openly, “avowedly” homosexual scouts constitute a physical and moral danger to other boys in intimate quarters.

    This capitulation is but the start of things to come, with gay activists banging the drums even louder now for the BSA to admit homosexual leaders too, and atheist groups now emboldened in their fight to eliminate belief in God as a membership requirement.
    These are all compelling arguments. As regards the first, I have sympathy for the BSA: We have all seen how, seemingly overnight, approval of homosexuality and same-sex marriage has gone from far-out minority notion to litmus test for participation in civil society. Gay activism is ruthless, and with lawsuits piling up, corporate sponsors bailing, and politicians flapping their gums and rattling their fountain pens, one can't readily blame national Scout leadership for trying to navigate a middle course here. I won't condemn them for failing to muster extraordinary moral courage.

    I agree that, everything else being equal, young boys are in greater danger of sexual predation while camping or hiking with scouts who are sexually attracted to other boys than with those who are not. (This seems so abundantly obvious, even before considering whether boys suffering from the disorder of same-sex attraction are also more likely to engage in aggressive sexual behavior, that it's nothing short of astounding how we have decided that this concern is in fact a symptom of bigoted hysteria and thus Shall Not Be Addressed.) That said, it seems to me that we parents can screen for this problem ourselves. There may well come a time when it will be a hate crime to remove our sons from a Scout pack or troop because it contains an avowed homosexual, but until such a time we can protect our sons that way.

    We can exercise similar prudence in watching for the slippery slope. Maybe the BSA has opened the door to its self-destruction, or maybe it's just cutting off a limb to save the body. One thing I can say for sure: If good Christian families abandon scouting now, the slippery slope is more likely to come to pass. If we stay, then maybe we can provide the moral energy, and the affirmation of scouting principles, needed to fight off future challenges.

    I will add that it's disheartening how in issuing its decision the BSA has tacitly affirmed a tenet of gay activism: that even young teen or pre-teen boys can have a “homosexual orientation” that's an objective personal datum, like being brown-eyed or German-Irish. Rather than challenge this semantic construct, the Boy Scouts have played right into it—and so played right into the stealth (or not so stealth) movements to criminalize reparative therapy, establish “sexual rights” for children over and against their parents' will, and weaken age of consent laws.

    To cement their cultural victory, gay activists must a) eliminate—by convincing or coercion—all doubt in the popular consciousness that homosexuality is a natural inborn trait, and b) foster conditions that mitigate or even reverse the age-old cultural forces that steer adolescents towards sexual normalcy, creating instead environments maximally supportive of sexual experimentation and “coming out.” Sadly, the language of the BSA announcement unwittingly plays right into both of those aims.

    But at this time I'm still intent on sticking with the Scouts, on believing that this was a calculated evasive maneuver and not an indicator of an ideological sea change. Since the only way to preserve Boy Scout principles is to fight for them, I'm not yet ready to take my arrows and quiver and go home.

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    New Documents Detail History of Boy Scout Abuse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcF79BXFNZg
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    The Boy Scouts of America have released nearly a decade of confidential files never before made public. The Scouts kept track of suspected pedophiles they banned from their ranks, but kept the list secret until now


    This is enough to make your blood boil. And as if allowing "open and avowed homosexual" Boy Scouts will make this situation better.
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    Penn and Teller - Boy Scouts (Full Episode) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndoP1YW72Zk
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