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Obama in guns-to-jihadists cover-up?
Senator raises questions about role of CIA annex in Benghazi
Published: 15 hours ago

In a radio interview, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky, questioned whether the Obama administration may be covering up the role played by the CIA annex in Benghazi in a possible scheme to run guns to rebels in the Middle East.

The annex was attacked Sept. 11 along with the special U.S. mission in Benghazi.

Charged Paul: “There has been a lot made of the political cover up of President Obama’s administration saying this (Benghazi attack) had something to do with a homemade film from some guy in Los Angeles. But in reality the question is, or the secondary quotation is, why would they do a cover up? What are they covering up?”

Paul said he has “a feeling that it had something to do with the CIA annex.”

“You know, a week before the ambassador was killed in Libya, a ship left Libya and docked in Turkey, and it actually interviewed the captain of that ship who said there were arms on board and that he actually witnessed the rebels taking the arms and disputing over who got what,” he said. “That there were grenade launchers; that there were significant arms being transferred.

Paul said it doesn’t prove the CIA was involved but raised the question of the purpose of the annex.

“The Libyan government is said not to have known that they were there,” he noted. “And is that the reason for the cover up? So there are a lot of unanswered questions.”

Paul was speaking Sunday night on WABC Radio’s “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio.” ( Video at link ) Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/rand-paul...qv6zTEPM4xd.99

Any arming of Middle East rebels would be considered highly controversial. Widespread reports have documented that Syrian and Libyan rebels consist in large part of jihadists, including members of several major al-Qaida groups.

It was not the first time Paul publicly raised suspicions on alleged gun running in Benghazi.

In a Senate hearing on the Benghazi attacks last month, Paul asked outgoing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: “Is the U. S. involved with any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling, anyhow transferring weapons to Turkey out of Libya?”

“To Turkey?” Clinton asked. “I will have to take that question for the record. Nobody has ever raised that with me.”

Continued Paul: “It’s been in news reports that ships have been leaving from Libya and that may have weapons, and what I’d like to know is the annex that was close by, were they involved with procuring, buying, selling, obtaining weapons, and were any of these weapons being transferred to other countries, any countries, Turkey included?”

Clinton replied, “Well, Senator, you’ll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex. I will see what information is available.”

“You’re saying you don’t know?” asked Paul.

“I do not know,” Clinton said. “I don’t have any information on that.”

That section of the exchange with Paul was almost entirely ignored by media, which instead focused on the Republican senator’s earlier statement that if he were president he would have relieved Clinton of her post.

The alleged weapons transfers to the rebels in Syria would not be the first time the Obama administration reportedly coordinated weapons shipments to Middle Eastern rebels.

In December, the New York Times reported the Obama administration “secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year, but American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants, according to United States officials and foreign diplomats.”

The Times reported the weapons and money from Qatar “strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi government.”

Last week the U.S. announced $60 million in nonlethal aid to Syrian rebels, while the White House continues to deny it was involved in coordinating arms shipments to Syrian fighters.

Last month, the New York Times reported the White House rebuffed a plan developed last summer by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and then-CIA Director David Petraeus to arm and train Syrian rebels.

However, according to informed Middle Eastern security officials speaking to WND, the U.S. has been coordinating Arab arms shipments for months now to the Syrian rebels. At issue is that the rebels consist in large part of al-Qaida-linked jihadists, according to scores of news reports.

The Middle Eastern security officials further described the U.S. mission in Benghazi and nearby CIA annex attacked last September as an intelligence and planning center for U.S. aid to the rebels in the Middle East, particularly those fighting Assad’s regime. The aid, the sources stated, included weapons shipments and was being coordinated with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Days after the Benghazi attacks, WND broke the story that late Ambassador Christopher Stevens himself played a central role in recruiting jihadists to fight Assad’s regime in Syria, according to Egyptian and other Middle Eastern security officials.

Stevens served as a key contact with the Saudis to coordinate the recruitment by Saudi Arabia of Islamic fighters from North Africa and Libya. The jihadists were sent to Syria via Turkey to attack Assad’s forces, said the security officials.

The officials said Stevens also worked with the Saudis to send names of potential jihadi recruits to U.S. security organizations for review. Names found to be directly involved in previous attacks against the U.S., including in Iraq and Afghanistan, were ultimately not recruited by the Saudis to fight in Syria, said the officials.

This scheme seems to mirror the Petraeus-Clinton plan as described by the New York Times.

Poking further holes in the White House denial of supporting that plan, it was revealed in testimony last month the arms-to-rebels plan had been endorsed by the leaders of the CIA, Pentagon and State Department.

If, indeed, President Obama rejected the arms plan, it would mean the White House went against the recommendations of not only Clinton and Petraeus but also outgoing Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey.

During Senate hearings on Benghazi two weeks ago, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., asked Panetta and Dempsey whether they had supported a plan “that we provide weapons to the resistance in Syria.”

“We do,” Panetta replied.

“You did support that?” McCain asked again.

“We did,” added Dempsey, who was sitting next to Panetta.

Neither Dempsey nor Panetta elaborated on their positions.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/rand-paul...qv6zTEPM4xd.99

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I don't know what will turn up from all of the investigations, but I am grateful Rand Paul is willing to ask the questions. The CIA has a history of moving guns and drugs to fund their operations. Youtube some of their whistleblowers.

Don't act so surprised that it is still happening.

Truth is never discovered without inquiring.

Rand Paul has already earned my vote for 2016.

Thanks Rand, for asking the tough questions of a government that has a lot of problems with transparency.

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Benghazi makes Watergate look like child's play. And yet it gets no mainstream coverage. Stunning.

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think this is why Obama, Hitlery Clinton and the rest of the regime let these four Americans be killed, because they knew too much. Dead men tell NO tales.

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Yeah, obama's ho hum attitude was very telling. The media must have known something was up as they wet all over themselves trying to provide cover for Obama and fiends.

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No one but Glen Beck to cover this and everyone in the MSM thinks he's crazy so no one listens. Rand Paul is likewise classified "a nut case". Doomed.

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u are right on...Dead men don't talk and that is why Obama is not letting any of the surviors be interviewed by the committee which is investigating the Bengahzi fiasco...Remember the "20or 30 people rescued " ?? They have been ordered to remail silent or face a prison term or worse...That how the Obama team works!

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No kidding!! Glenn Beck made this claim soon after Sept. 11th. Nobody bothered to pick up on it. And Hillary laughed at the question during her interview. That is exactly what was happening. You would think some journalist would want to break a huge story like this and become famous. Where are you on this story Bob Woodward??????

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Go ahead Rand and make this account sound maddening. Maybe the press will pick up on someone making the claim that there is a Fast and Furious mid-east version. Let the the press call you a liar and then say to the press "prove to me and America that I am lying".

Remember #Benghazi:
Sharyl Attkisson, citizens still seek answers six months after Benghazi murders
Posted at 11:51 am on March 11, 2013 by Twitchy

Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson

Today marks 6 months since the Benghazi attacks.

2:15 PM - 11 Mar 13

Six months ago today, four Americans were killed in an attack on our consulate Benghazi, Libya. Six months ago today, Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods lost their lives. Their families continue to mourn, and will do so for the rest of their lives. Six months ago, we were told there would be justice.

There has been none.

Questions remain unanswered. Because, “what difference does it make?” They were just “bumps in the road.” No justice, only lies.

elwhiteym @elwhiteym

O has called #Benghazi “bump in the road” & what happened to Ambassador Stevens, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith and Tyrone Woods, was not optimal

2:12 PM - 11 Mar 13

The cretinous Oliver Willis of Media Matters turned those four dead Americans into the butt of jokes. http://twitchy.com/2013/02/17/shamef...haziquestions/

Those with a moral compass will not forget. Today, we remember those lives lost and we continue to seek truth and justice. CBS’ Sharyl Attkisson, who continues to fiercely fight for truth, does so again today. http://twitchy.com/2013/01/22/boom-c...r-benghazigate

Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson

Nobody has heard from the survivors and first-hand witnesses. #Benghazi

Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson

CBS: this week republican Sen. Graham plans to ask FBI director to provide transcripts of interviews with survivors.

2:24 PM - 11 Mar 13

Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson

CBS: Graham also says he will ask Secretary of State to provide names of survivors so they may be interviewed by Congress.

2:25 PM - 11 Mar 13

Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson

Secretary of State Kerry recently said he visited one survivor" at Bethesda".

2:39 PM - 11 Mar 13

Musician Charlie Daniels demands answers.

Charlie Daniels ✔ @CharlieDaniels

Mr. Obama what really happened in Benghazi? This is not a political game,stop treating it as such.

12:27 PM - 11 Mar 13

And, as Twitchy reported, citizens demanded answers from Michelle Obama, when she asked for questions using the hashtag #askFLOTUS.
http://twitchy.com/2013/03/11/boom-a...riors-deliver/

The questions, and the remembering, continue using various hashtags: #Benghazi, #RememberBenghazi and #BenghaziGate.

Make it happen, Twitter.

Where is the justice? We must continue to demand answers and seek the truth.

We will never forget and justice will be served.

Rest in peace, brave souls.

http://twitchy.com/2013/03/11/rememb...ghazi-murders/

If this had happened on Bush's watch ... the MSM would have been on this 24/7 beating the drums .... TV specials would have been dedicated to the murdered - the injured - the survivors .... but ...... we get nothing but "crickets"

preperation h ?

Sen. Ron Johnson on Benghazi: “The Admin Was Lying to the American Public.”
Posted on March 13, 2013

During the Benghazi trials, instead of praising Hillary Clinton Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson caused her to say the infamous words, “What difference does it make?” Sen. Johnson speaks very candidly with PolitiChick Ann-Marie Murrell from the West Coast David Horowitz Freedom Center event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=9gDTcL9kteU


Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2013/03/...#ixzz2NRp7rmn0

Why haven’t we heard from the Benghazi survivors, six months later?

9:44 AM 03/14/2013

We already know Hillary Clinton would answer that question with another question: “What difference does it make?”

But that only works for people who think she’s a hero for getting away with endlessly lying about it, because the people who want her to stop endlessly lying about it are Republicans. And if Republicans want to know the truth about what happened, it must not be worth knowing.

That attitude got our moral, ethical, and intellectual betters through the election, but it’s not making the issue go away. The Hill: http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affa...hazi-survivors

Republican lawmakers are threatening to subpoena U.S. survivors of the terrorist attack in Benghazi.

Exasperated GOP members say unless they get more answers from the White House, they will call on the survivors to testify before Congress, and might hold up President Obama’s nomination to replace the U.S. ambassador who was killed on Sept. 11, 2012 in Libya.

The recent revelation that U.S. survivors are recuperating at Walter Reed Hospital has sparked GOP demands that the White House provide Congress with access to them…

“That’s why this story continues to perpetuate itself,” said Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), the chairman of the House Oversight subcommittee on National Security. “And it will not end, because the State Department’s not allowing us to put a nice, tight ribbon on it.”

Yep. That’s what the State Department does. Stonewall. http://dailycaller.com/2010/02/04/st...caller-writer/

Ambassador Christopher Stevens could not be reached for comment.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/14/wh...#ixzz2NX2S5Sv5

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It's interesting that there is such an effort to "disappear" these folks. My original thought is that there's not a lot they could tell us beyond they were attacked. The view of a participant in a firefight is very narrow since standing up to get a better view is not a good idea. Howsomever the enthusiastic effort that this administration is expending to hide these folks should even make an Obot suspicious. Of course the media press corpse has no interest in pursuing this story since Caliph BHO, may his name be forever erased from history, has told them there is no there there. One wonders if this were a Bush, Reagan, or Nixon administration if they would heed the word and turn away. Methinks it unlikely. Of course that's just me.

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If it were a Republican Pres, there wouldn't be a Congressional hearing, it would be a political fire and brimstone Inquisition... lead by the MSM

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The official explanation for refusing to send these people help was that there was not enough "real-time information" to justify putting American forces in harms' way. These people can testify to the amount of real-time information they were providing (as well as the real-time surveillance provided by the two drones), plus they put a human face on the fiasco. These are the flesh and blood humans our C-in-C abandoned in order to get the necessary shut-eye to appear cool and fresh for his NV fundraiser.

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Would anyone be really surprised if - being forced to present these wittnesses - they were all suddenly killed - hotel fire, plane crash, explosions .... ???