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    Couple Aborts Twin Boys Because They Want a Girl Using IVF

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/01...irl-using-ivf/

    Couple Aborts Twin Boys Because They Want a Girl Using IVF

    The story of an Australian couple who aborted twin boys because they want to use IVF to ensure they have a daughter is attracting a lot of attention, especially among pro-lifers, and understandably so since the case seems to foreshadow an ethics-free future of eugenics.

    But the couple, who want a girl to replace the infant daughter they recently lost, is so far still barred by Australian law from pursuing their quest for a female baby. The state of Victoria, where the unnamed couple lives, does not allow sex selection using IVF unless it is done to avoid the risk of the baby's inheriting a genetic abnormality or disease.

    An independent group, known as the Patient Review Panel, recently rejected the couple's bid, so they are taking their case to the next level, the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal, which is to hear their arguments in March.

    "After what we have been through we are due for a bit of luck. We want to be given the opportunity to have a girl," said the man. The couple already have three sons.

    According to the Herald-Sun newspaper of Melbourne, which interviewed the couple, the woman, who is in her thirties, is "consumed by grief over the daughter who died soon after birth" and admits she has "become obsessed with having a daughter and it has become vital to her psychological health."

    The husband told the newspaper that it was the couple's "right" to try this route. "It's ridiculous that sex selection is illegal, actually. For certain circumstances it should be legalized."

    An Australian pioneer in IVF, Gab Kovacs, agreed. "I can't see how it could possibly harm anyone," he said.

    "Laws should be made to protect people from things that are going to damage them. Why should we make this illegal? Who is this going to harm if this couple have their desire fulfilled?"

    The couple told the Herald-Sun that if they lose their appeal they will go to the United States to conceive a girl. Unlike Australia and much of Europe, the U.S. does not regulate sex selection in embryos developed for IVF procedures, so couples from many countries come here to conceive.

    If the couple does come to the United States, they could expect to generate as much notice as they have in Australia, even if what they want is not illegal.

    When a prominent fertility clinic in California announced in 2009 that it would help prospective parents choose physical traits -- hair and eye color, for example -- as well as the gender of their child, it prompted so much outrage that the clinic was forced to put its plans on hold.

    Sex-selective abortions also take place in some places in the United States, though the vast majority of Americans reject the practice as unethical, and because the procedure is often used to destroy female fetuses and preserves males.

    That the Australia couple targeted their fetuses because they were boys certainly hasn't mollified American pro-life activists.

    "[I]n a world where the IVF and sex-selection are technologically possible, the providence of God is not trusted, and laws pertaining to bioethics come to be based on what's possible rather than what's right, such battles are inevitable," Tom Crowe wrote at the web site of the conservative political lobby, CatholicVote.org.

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    Those two need to be sterilized.

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    Why is this any different than someone saying, it is not a good time right now for me to have a child? Abortions are performed daily for a multitude of reasons. One reason is no better than the next. This couple wants a girl and if technology can help I say go for it. Abortion itself has become a form of birth control which I think is a far worse reason than this couples. Maybe they should have given birth and given the children up, but that again is their decision. I am against abortion except in certain circumstances, but I am in the minority. Remember the woman who had a child in hopes the child could donate an organ to her other child? People were outraged about that as well but it worked out in the end.

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    I think that she should have her twins and after they seen and held them and they still didn't want them they should put them up for adoption. I would adopt them in a heartbeat. Aborting them isn't right IMHO. There are so many couples in the world that can't have children that would be waiting with open arms to adopt the boys.
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    I think it's absolutely selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine View Post
    I think it's absolutely selfish.
    I totally agree.

    Obviously, with 3 boys already, and the girl didn't make it.....they aren't meant to have a girl. Why can't people just be happy with what they have??

    People need to stop trying to play GOD.

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    I'm not against the sex selection part....but totally against aborting children because they are not the "right" sex.

    I have no respect for these people and do not feel sorry for them. They want to appear so heartbroken and grief stricken by their daughter's death, but have no qualms about taking the life of 2 sons they created.....they want sympathy? Not from me. Shame on them.
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    I, personally believe it's the parents choice to decide what is best for them. I'm not against abortion - I do not have the right to tell another individual what they should do because "I" think it's the moral thing to do.
    Don't worry about what people think. They don't do it very often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine View Post
    I think it's absolutely selfish.
    Exactly... you know... there are couples like my husband and I who can't have children and can't afford IVF... I mean, why didn't she carry them and put them up for adoption... I'm just totally disgusted by this.
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    This is where abortion is going? I thought abortion was only done if the life of the mother or her mental health was in danger. Having a boy instead of a girl will make the mother go nuts? If it does then that mother has more problems than an abortion can take care of, she needs to be under the care of a shrink anyway. How can such flimsy reasons pass for the ok to do abortions?

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    #1 - this was in Australia
    #2 - although Pro-lifers would like to see abortions used rarely, if at all many ProChoice advocates seem to think ANY infrindgement on the mother's right to choose is an affront to Civil Liberties as when Louisiana required Health Inspections of any clinics preforming abortions. ANY reason is a "good enough" reason.
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