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Alot more old people scare me driving than teenagers lol. Maybe they should look at that!
My son got his license at 16. He went to school, then work everyday. Bought his first new car at 17 and paid for it himself. I feel it should be the parents choice.
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It is up to the gov't to make laws in the best interest of public safety.
How many people are resisting the proposed ban on cell phones and texting while driving ?? It "interferes with their rights"...
How many people resist restrictions of older drivers - who can be quite dangerous - but wait they can vote and have a powerful lobby
How many people drink and drive ... by your reasoning we should outlaw booze - wait, tried that - didn't work out so well....
BTW- the 1% or 2% i was refering to was the PARENTS who don't usually let a 14/15 year old drive.... not the kids themselves.
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Originally Posted by
Jolie Rouge
How many people are resisting the proposed ban on cell phones and texting while driving ?? It "interferes with their rights"...
How many people resist restrictions of older drivers - who can be quite dangerous - but wait they can vote and have a powerful lobby
People resist laws all the time, doesn't mean that we shouldn't have them.

Originally Posted by
Jolie Rouge
How many people drink and drive ... by your reasoning we should outlaw booze - wait, tried that - didn't work out so well....
By my reasoning, we should have laws that make drinking and driving illegal, by your reasoning it should be up to the person or person's parent whether or not they should drink and drive.
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Originally Posted by
stresseater
Here I believe it is 15 1/2 for a permit and 16 for a license. I am currently teaching my 14 y/o how to drive. Flame me if you want but she is very responsible and when she goes to get her license she will be confident/practiced enough to be safe(r).
Point in case, there are people out there no matter what the law is, won't follow it -- it is a parent's responsibility to teach children they are not above the law -- if you can break it by letting her drive at 14 what is to stop her from breaking the law?
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Originally Posted by
tngirl
I started driving when I was 11 yrs old. I grew up in rural NW TN and for the most part I only drove on the back roads.
As for maturity not being based on parenting...in a big part it is. A child's maturity is mostly based on the responsibilities a parent gives their child. A child that has little or no responsibilities will most likely not mature at the same rate as a child that has more responsibilities in their life. Especially those children that are not made to take responsibilities for their actions. I taught my children at an early age that for every action there was a consequence, whether good or bad.
Again I disagree, being responsible and being mature are two different things.
You can be a very responsible kid, but you are still a child with a child's perception of the world -- and immature.
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Originally Posted by
Jolie Rouge
How many people drink and drive ... by your reasoning we should outlaw booze - wait, tried that - didn't work out so well....
By my reasoning, we should have laws that make drinking and driving illegal, by your reasoning it should be up to the person or person's parent whether or not they should drink and drive.
My point was that people ignore the law. Bad analogy ... it was late and I was tired.
Point in case, there are people out there no matter what the law is, won't follow it -- it is a parent's responsibility to teach children they are not above the law -- if you can break it by letting her drive at 14 what is to stop her from breaking the law?
There is not law prohibiting you from teaching your child to drive on private property at any age. But if we don't start teaching them early - and that is the purpose of a permit - then you are releasing a lot of inexperienced, immature drivers onto the road.
How many people are resisting the proposed ban on cell phones and texting while driving ?? It "interferes with their rights"...
How many people resist restrictions of older drivers - who can be quite dangerous - but wait they can vote and have a powerful lobby
But your point was the SAFETY issues involved ...
People resist laws all the time, doesn't mean that we shouldn't have them.
My point it they are targeting a group that is statisticly LESS dangerous then those above ... but since they don't VOTE
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Originally Posted by
Jolie Rouge
My point was that people ignore the law. Bad analogy ... it was late and I was tired.
Yes people ignore the law, does that mean there shouldn't be any?
There is not law prohibiting you from teaching your child to drive on private property at any age. But if we don't start teaching them early - and that is the purpose of a permit - then you are releasing a lot of inexperienced, immature drivers onto the road.
Let's be serious for half a second here how many people really have enough property to teach a child how to effectively drive a CAR, not a piece of farm equipment, well enough that it would be considered real road experience, with other drivers?
But your point was the SAFETY issues involved ...
and your point is?? all of those things are safety issues, people resist laws like that all the time and they still get passed, voters or not.
My point it they are targeting a group that is statisticly LESS dangerous then those above ... but since they don't VOTE
But they've passed laws against cell phones and texting
Perhaps it's time to just agree to disagree
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Originally Posted by
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Originally Posted by
Jolie Rouge
There is not law prohibiting you from teaching your child to drive on private property at any age. But if we don't start teaching them early - and that is the purpose of a permit - then you are releasing a lot of inexperienced, immature drivers onto the road.
Let's be serious for half a second here how many people really have enough property to teach a child how to effectively drive a CAR, not a piece of farm equipment, well enough that it would be considered real road experience, with other drivers?
We live in a rural community ... people tend to use church store parking lots "after hours" - you have space, few people and built in "obstacles" and painted lines for "roads" and parking
Perhaps it's time to just agree to disagree
But what is the fun in that ???
Laissez les bon temps rouler!
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ok, considering I live out in the sticks..... call us hicks, what ever you like LOL
but we have LOTS of back roads, lots of people teach there kids to drive
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Back to the original point ... why does the Federal Goverment need to take over a STATE designation ?? Why don't they concentrate on enforcing EXISTING Federal laws .... like the ones covering Immigration ??
Cause we all know what a National Crisis underage drivers have become ??
Laissez les bon temps rouler!
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.** a 4 day work week & sex slaves ~ I say Tyt for PRESIDENT!
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Originally Posted by
Breezin
Point in case, there are people out there no matter what the law is, won't follow it -- it is a parent's responsibility to teach children they are not above the law -- if you can break it by letting her drive at 14 what is to stop her from breaking the law?
Maybe it teaches her that not all laws are based on common sense. It doesn't take much common sense to realize what a bad idea it is to cut loose thousands and thousands of drivers on the general public who have only been driving for a little while unsupervised.

Originally Posted by
Breezin
Again I disagree, being responsible and being mature are two different things.
You can be a very responsible kid, but you are still a child with a child's perception of the world -- and immature.
I disagree with this as well, kids become mature with responsibility.
Let's be serious for half a second here how many people really have enough property to teach a child how to effectively drive a CAR, not a piece of farm equipment, well enough that it would be considered real road experience, with other drivers?
I have 52 and 1/3 acres. MORE than enough room to teach a child how to handle a vehicle in a vast array of situations. You know what they say about people who assume, right?
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