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Interesting to see the CNN stories over the past few nights as people realize that they have been lied to and their premiums are going up as well as the deductibles. Including the 56 yo woman who said she would just pay the fine because she could not afford the monthly premiums on the cheapest plan and how she was "hurt and disappointed" at the lies. This was CNN...not Fox.
The funniest thing was the Democratic pollster who was the guest on Anderson Cooper following the report. He refused to address the issue but instead attacked CNN for reporting on the issue because it "added fuel" to the fire and that he would have expected to have seen that story on Fox News.
what's scary (other than the train wreck) is that insurance companies have already notified people that they will no longer be carried and companies are already reducing hours and taking away insurance. If the egotists (obama kissers) humbly concede to a 1 year delay, there will be more people without health insurance than before since because of obamacare and the mandates, people have already been kicked out of their privately bought policies or have either lost their jobs or have become part timers. these people will or have become the the castoffs of this administration caught in quick sand and will be thrown to the wolves! This administration will not care because their insurance for themselves and their families will not be affected. all they care about is losing face (therefore votes). I don't care how many times they spew their false words (lies) about how hard they are working for their constituents and how great obamacare will be (if their constituents live long enough) while they got to keep their cadillac plan which is subsidized 75% by the same people who will not have any coverage!
Obama Admin Asks Blue Cross Blue Shield to Hide Poor Enrollment Numbers
In a bombshell revelation, a consumer sales manager for North Dakota’s largest health insurer said Monday that the Obama Administration asked Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Dakota to hide how many people registered for health insurance through an online exchange that just went up.
by William Bigelow 23 Oct 2013, 2:55 AM PDT
James Nichol of Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Dakota told a forum in Fargo that the Obama Administration had made the request. The forum was designed for people who wanted to obtain coverage through the online exchange.
A spokeswoman from Blue Cross Blue Shield acknowledged that only 14 North Dakotans have registered for coverage since October 1, when the federal exchange hit the market. There have only been 20 enrollees in the entire state since October 1. When she was asked why Blue Cross eschewed its usual reticence and revealed its internal sales numbers, spokeswoman Andrea Dinneen said Tuesday that the troubled rollout of ObamaCare is a “unique situation.” Dinneen said she had no knowledge of the Obama Administration’s request for concealing any figures.
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Service, a federal agency that handles the federal marketplace, would not answer questions about Nichols’ statement or whether other insurers were asked to keep their numbers quiet.
Representatives from Medica and Sanford Health denied hearing anything from the federal government about hiding their numbers. They are the other two North Dakota companies that join Blue Cross in offering coverage on the federal exchange.
Sanford admitted they had six enrollees as of Tuesday. Medica said they had not verified their enrollment files so they couldn’t say how many people had enrolled.
http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/416090/
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CNN Report : : ObamaCare Proving Unaffordable For Many Americans
Published on Oct 21, 2013
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O-care increasing HC costs, not lowering them. Patients must have power over their HC decisions, not gov.
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The president said yesterday that if it’s taking too long you can bypass the website and enroll by mail.
Only the federal government could come up with a website that’s slower than sending something by the United States Post Office
- Jay Leno
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I wonder who the 12% are. I know they are idiots but just wondering.
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they probably either work for the government or the company that produced it and most likely democrats
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Carson: A Better Alternative To Obamacare
When I was an intern at Johns Hopkins Hospital in the 1970s, I was very impressed by the caliber of patients on the wards. There would be presidents and CEOs of large corporations, as well as queens and crown princes of various countries, many of whom were dying of horrible diseases and all of whom would be quite willing to give all their wealth and titles for a clean bill of health.
It was easy to understand that there is not much in life that is worthwhile without your health. It is by far our most important possession, which we should jealously protect. For this reason, I heartily agree that we as a nation need to focus significant emphasis and resources on providing good health care for all of our citizens. My question is this: Can we provide this without turning over control of our most important possession to the government?
Some will say we have already relinquished it, so why talk about it any further? Others say only the poor are affected by Obamacare, and everything remains the same for all the others. Of course, this is not true, since the many regulations associated with the health care law affect everyone. Also, the economic impact does not occur in isolation.
Rather than complain about Obamacare, it might be useful to begin to discuss some enhancements or future alterations that can make it work effectively or provide an alternative if it fails. The first question is, what do you need for good health care in America?
You need a patient, a health care provider and a mechanism of payment. Along came a middleman — namely, the government and the insurance companies — to facilitate the relationship. Now the middleman has become the primary entity, with the health care provider and the patient at its beck and call. The whole enterprise has been turned upside down.
In order to right the ship, we need to return the responsibility for good health care to the patient and the health care provider. One of the best ways to do this is through health savings accounts, which patients can control. Even if the federal government provided such an account for every American citizen that was increased by $2,000 each year, it would cost less than $700 billion a year and everyone would be covered.
Keep in mind the fact that more than 150 million Americans are employed and their $2,000 per year in most cases would be happily supplied by the employer if that was their only health care obligation. This would make employers much more likely to want to expand their businesses and hire more people, and it would decrease the government’s entitlement obligations by hundreds of billions of dollars per year.
At least a quarter of the $2,000 per year would be devoted to bridge insurance or catastrophic insurance, and all citizens would have the right to contribute to their health savings accounts from other sources without limit. It would also be possible for people to transfer funds between accounts within a family.
For example, if a husband needed care and was a thousand dollars short, his wife, son, daughter and father could make contributions from their accounts to cover the expense. This would essentially turn each family into its own private insurance company with no middleman.
It should also be possible for everyone to donate up to 5 percent of the value of their health savings accounts to anyone of their choosing in any given year. For example, if there was someone in their church or an associate at work in need and for some reason didn’t have adequate resources in his account, his fellow members and associates could band together and donate a portion of their accounts to cover the expense.
This would create a strong sense of community, which is a very good thing. Since one could pass his savings on to a family member or anyone of his choosing at the time of death, there would be no incentive to spend everything in the account before dying.
Over the course of a lifetime, it is likely that most people would have accumulated quite a significant amount in their health savings accounts, and it should be possible after reaching a certain dollar amount for people to withdraw a percentage of their savings for their personal use in any way they deem fit. For some elderly people, this could serve as a very nice retirement supplement.
As time passed, individuals and families would accumulate extremely large amounts of money, and the government obligation would become smaller. Instead of the government becoming a bigger part of each person’s life, it would diminish, reducing the need for ever-increasing revenue streams.
This is just the basic framework of an alternative system to Obamacare that involves thinking outside of the box. With additions from positive and creative individuals, it could provide universal coverage that is simple to understand and truly affordable.
Ben S. Carson is professor emeritus of neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins University.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-to-obamacare/
it would be idealistic but only if costs can be controlled. $2000 might pay for an er visit but nothing else. doctors can charge $150 - $250 just for an office visit. A yearly physical from what my primary charged was $295 and that did not include blood work or anything else. therefore $2000 would not cover much unless you never went to a doctor. would an employer pay $2000 a year for a health savings account? could be they would for full time employees but not their families. now this would mean that part timers and non-working members of a full time employee would have no coverage. so if you are the working poor where you are not wealthy enough to afford your own insurance nor poor enough to get medicaid, you are expendable to this country.....all the while illegals will continue to get free care and government will have coverage that the workers (who cannot afford coverage) will have to pay for.
My Mom paid $600 for a second opinion office visit. regarding her cancer. She made her $10 co-pay, then they sent her a bill which we refused to pay.
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hope everything works out for her
unluckily that's an example of what happens if you only have $2000 a year to spend vs the realistic expense of healthcare. what she is starting could just be a drop in the bucket. a friend just recently had back surgery and the bills if they had to pay them would be enough for a normal person to drop dead over (the room - semi private - was $5000 a day, surgeons bill was over $150000 and there were other doctors involved too so I assume the surgery probably came to over $250,000).