Thread: Who you gonna believe - Obama or Webster ??

Originally Posted by pepperpot

And why do people who claim to be so compassionate, especially to the needs of children declare that they will kill the fetus should they become pregnant?

There is no 'one size fits all' in labeling......it's not all or none, black or white.....lots of gray and contradictions.

I focus on the born and let the pregnant woman decide what she wants with the unborn. I don't consider someone else's unborn fetus to be my concern. Pro lifers focus on the born and let the parents deal with the born. They don't consider the lives of the children once they are born to be their concern anymore.

Originally Posted by pepperpot

There are some problems within the medical industry.....'pre-existing' conditions is just one of them.

If certain things were to change, healthcare could become more affordable for all.



I too don't think that children grow up saying "I want to be poor" either....but I also don't see 'children' be instilled with "what can I do now so I won't have to be poor in the future"......

If parents instilled in their children to work hard, get educated and be responsible..........there would be a lot less 'poor people'....and yes there are 'exceptions' to those who have worked hard, studied, etc. and yet through no fault of their own, are poor. But that is NOT the majority.

Very good point and many of us did grow up willing to work very hard for what we want. Many of us learned to be the best at what we want to do.
I'm always willing to help a family out when they need it but also give them a hand up so they can get by on their own after they get the right opportunity. I do strongly believe that helping others should be one's choice.

Originally Posted by Jolie Rouge

Here is one. Mighty Mike - for those who have been around awhile - was born 2 1/2 months early. Insurance dropped us while he was in NICU. He has ongoing health issues, but he IS covered now. We are still paying on the $185,000 bill at the hospital. We do without cell phones, cable TV and movie nights. We don't go out much, and my kids have learned to "make it last, make do, or do without". No one is wearing $600 Air Jordans here.

What we need is for people to take care of themselves, develpoe that work ethic that got this country through the Great Depression and two World Wars instead of whining about how they "need" this "deserve" that and look for someone to "take care" of them.

JMHO - unpopular as it may be.... eaceout:

I am so glad he's ok. I just think it's a damn shame that your insurance dropped you in the 1st place. I think there should have been some backup for your family.

Originally Posted by Bahet

I focus on the born and let the pregnant woman decide what she wants with the unborn. I don't consider someone else's unborn fetus to be my concern. Pro lifers focus on the born and let the parents deal with the born. They don't consider the lives of the children once they are born to be their concern anymore.

Bahet just think about it for awhile. You want rights for people to marry whomever they want but where are the rights of the unborn child. While thinking about it one group wants a piece of paper that says marriage and the unborn wants the right to live.

So then you're willing to make sure the mom and baby are covered by insurance so the same thing that happened to Jolie's Mike won't happen to someone else?

Bahet many of us that are pro life have known someone who has had a baby or babies that were born premature. You learn just how valuable that young life is when you watch how hard the doctors and nurses work to save that young life. You try to comfort the babies parents during the time they aren't sure if their precious baby will make it or not. It puts life in a whole different perspective.

Jolie I hope your son is alright and didn't end up with any long term problems.
I'll keep you and your family in my prayers.

Originally Posted by pepperpot

Am I willing to financially support them? No. Am I willing to help make the system user friendly, fair and affordable so they can support themselves.......yes.

I believe in a helping hand up, not a hand out.

And that's all anyone realy wants. The system we have right now is not friendly, fair, or affordable.

I don't want my tax dollars going to support some welfare crack whore popping out dozens of kids with dozens of men and claiming she can't work because of stress. But I have no problem at all with my tax dollars going to make sure the families of our returning reservists have coverage they can afford. I have no problem at all with my tax dollars going to help the family of the engineer who was laid off from a good job but cannot get aid because he has a house that is worth too much money. IMO, that's money well spent.