Thread: Is this how we treat our Allies ?

Originally Posted by mikej

The press in the UK is very tabloidy. Brown was not insulted.

: Oh, I didn't know you had a direct line of communication with him......



It's still rude and insulting....

Originally Posted by SurferGirl

I remember when we were talking about this before that their rudeness was based on the Obama's being unable to control their racism and hatred.

It appears that Michele Obama wrote a paper while in college about how Britain was involved in slavery and Barack has some relative that tried to overthrow the government in Kenya while Churchill was in office.
Too bad they can't control their hatred and racism, maybe they sat in Reverend Wright's church too long. Or maybe extreme hate is a requirement for membership.

Yeah, I posted about that in the article above.

Churchill has less happy connotations for Mr Obama than those American politicians who celebrate his wartime leadership. It was during Churchill's second premiership that Britain suppressed Kenya's Mau Mau rebellion. Among Kenyans allegedly tortured by the colonial regime included one Hussein Onyango Obama, the President's grandfather.

So if it was loaned to us, then it should have eventually have been given back anyhow... right?

What were the terms of the loan?

The loan was thru Jan 2009.

Originally Posted by ahippiechic

The loan was thru Jan 2009.

and you know this how? Link? Cleo? Miss Cleo??

Originally Posted by speedygirl

Yeah, I posted about that in the article above.

Churchill has less happy connotations for Mr Obama than those American politicians who celebrate his wartime leadership. It was during Churchill's second premiership that Britain suppressed Kenya's Mau Mau rebellion. Among Kenyans allegedly tortured by the colonial regime included one Hussein Onyango Obama, the President's grandfather.

If his personal family history is this, I can well understand why he doesn't want it in his oval office to see everyday....however, he represents this entire country.....rather than just give it back when it was 'unexpected'....he should have put it somewhere else with dignity and respected this country's ally.... or even stated that the statue would be moved to XYZ, if they wouldn't mind.....that would be the considerate and proper thing to do....instead....tacky and offensive....

Originally Posted by pepperpot

and you know this how? Link? Cleo? Miss Cleo??

The link is at post #17 of this thread.

Originally Posted by speedygirl

The link is at post #17 of this thread.

Thanks...even still.....the 'loan' (out of respect and alliance) was offered to be extended...

But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: "Thanks, but no thanks."

Diplomats were at first reluctant to discuss the whereabouts of the Churchill bronze, after its ejection from the seat of American power. But the British Embassy in Washington has now confirmed that it sits in the palatial residence of ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald, just down the road from Vice President Joe Biden's official residence. It is not clear whether the ambassador plans to keep it in Washington or send it back to London.

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The rejection of the bust has left some British officials nervously reading the runes to see how much influence the UK can wield with the new regime in Washington.

I stand by my statement.....poor judgement on O's part....

Originally Posted by pepperpot

Thanks...even still.....the 'loan' (out of respect and alliance) was offered to be extended...



I stand by my statement.....poor judgement on O's part....

At least he gave it back to the Brits. I was afraid he was going to regift it to the French.

Originally Posted by anothersta

At least he gave it back to the Brits. I was afraid he was going to regift it to the French.

LOL, good one, I like your sense of humor.