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    Quote Originally Posted by atprm View Post
    Our Parish has been doing this since the election -- every week, without fail...

    most of the "traditional" Catholic Churches (you know the ones -- devout members, kneelers, stations of the cross, ladies wear chapel veils) do it here -- versus the "liberal" Catholic Churches (you know those too -- no kneelers, everyone thinks they are the priest, no one genuflects or makes the sign of the cross upon entering the AUDITORIUM).
    That's good to hear. I left the Lutheran church on account that I didn't hear ANYTHING on pro-life. My dad is active in his Lutheran church and the men's group told the pastor that the church needs to be more pro-life. I hear now that the Missouri Synod is making January Pro-Life month so I guess there are a lot of people like my father and me speaking out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedygirl View Post
    Elle and I are living up here in Sodom and Gomorrah so we wouldn't know any better, LOL
    I think Sodom is on the West Coast and Gomorrah the Northeast. I could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHolliday View Post
    I think Sodom is on the West Coast and Gomorrah the Northeast. I could be wrong though.
    LOL You could be right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedygirl View Post
    LOL You could be right.
    We had a neighbor that visited his daughter in college a while back. He had a favorite coffee cup that he took with him that had a rainbow on it. He was an older guy that was not aware of the new meaning of the rainbow. His daughter informed him though.

    Funny thing is, he was/is a man's man. Someone could have got their lights punched out over misinterpreting his coffee cup. It's a crazy world we live in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHolliday View Post
    We had a neighbor that visited his daughter in college a while back. He had a favorite coffee cup that he took with him that had a rainbow on it. He was an older guy that was not aware of the new meaning of the rainbow. His daughter informed him though.

    Funny thing is, he was/is a man's man. Someone could have got their lights punched out over misinterpreting his coffee cup. It's a crazy world we live in.
    It's funny that you mentioned this. As a teen in the 70's I had a huge collection of rainbow things, my bedroom had a huge rainbow mural, etc...and I showed my kids (they're grown) the photos and they asked me if I had supported gay rights back in the day. I had to tell them a rainbow back then was just that, a rainbow! lol.
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    Sorry Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo, You Can’t be Catholic and Pro-Abortion
    by Rebecca Downs | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 4/2/13 3:08 PM

    It is the opinion of myself and other faithful, Catholic pro-lifers that Vice President Joe Biden and Governor Andrew Cuomo be denied communion as a result of their pro-abortion views.

    If these two men would rather have their politics than their faith, so be it. You cannot be pro-abortion first and Catholic second; in fact, it’s only one or the other. You can’t be both.

    I have personally met Cardinal Timothy Dolan, a man whom I hold in high esteem. A qualm I have with him, though – perhaps my only qualm – is that he has not acted as his predecessor, Cardinal Edward Egan, did. Egan did deny communion to churchgoers who did not share the Church’s teaching on abortion. Unfortunately, though, when Joe Biden attended the Palm Sunday Mass at St. Patrick’s, Dolan not only served Biden communion, but cheerfully announced his presence.

    Now, Biden may claim to be pro-life, but then he says he can’t impose this belief on other people, and on other religions? Well, okay – he’s not pro-life. Being pro-life is about not only what religion you belong to, but accepting the truth and the fact that life begins at conception.

    And as the post on Patheos points out, Dolan and the Catholic Bishops’ Conference are suing the Obama administration. So such cheerfulness seems a bit odd. While Biden and Dolan met after Mass, it is not clear what they discussed.


    Recently, Jason Jones of Movie to Movement wrote a letter to Cardinal Dolan asking that Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York be excommunicated for his views on abortion. If anyone is facilitating abortion right now and should be denied communion, it’s Andrew Cuomo. By now you’ve almost certainly heard about Cuomo’s bill to expand abortion in New York, a state which is already far ahead of the rest of the country when it comes to easy abortion access and high abortion rates.

    The letter which Jones wrote has been published by World Net Daily. http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/filmmaker...unicate-cuomo/

    As I have said, if Joe Biden and Andrew Cuomo want to have their politics, then if such politics conflict with the Catholic faith, then they cannot have both. If Cardinal Dolan and the rest of the Church are to remain consistent with teachings on abortion, then they must be not afraid to deny communion to those who refuse to uphold such truths about the right to life.

    http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/02/s...-pro-abortion/
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    Archbishop Vigneron: No Communion For Catholics Who Support Same-Sex Marriage!
    By, Naraj Warkioo

    “A Catholic Cannot Say,
    I Believe The Church Offers The Saving Truth Of Jesus,
    And Then Reject What The Church Teaches!”
    Detroit professor and legal adviser to the Vatican says Catholics who promote gay marriage should not try to receive holy Communion, a key part of Catholic identity.

    And the archbishop of Detroit, Allen Vigneron, told the Free Press Sunday that Catholics who receive Communion while advocating gay marriage would “logically bring shame for a double-dealing that is not unlike perjury.”

    The comments of Vigneron and Edward Peters, who teaches Catholic canon law at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, are part of a polarizing discussion about gay marriage that echoes debate over whether politicians who advocate abortion rights should receive Communion.

    In a post on his blog last week, Peters said that Catholic teachings make it clear that marriage is between one man and one woman. And so, “Catholics who promote ‘same-sex marriage’ act contrary to” Catholic law “and should not approach for holy Communion,” he wrote. “They also risk having holy Communion withheld from them … being rebuked and/or being sanctioned.”

    Peters didn’t specify a Catholic politician or public figure in his post. But he told the Free Press that a person’s “public efforts to change society’s definition of marriage … amount to committing objectively wrong actions.”

    Peters, an attorney who holds the Edmund Cardinal Szoka Chair at Sacred Heart, was appointed by Pope Benedict XVI in 2010 to be a referendary of the Apostolic Sinatura, which means he helps advise the top judicial authority in the Catholic Church. Peters’ blog, “In Light of the Law,” is popular among Catholic experts, but not everyone agrees with his traditional views.

    Peters has said before that liberal Catholic Democrats, such as U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, should be denied Communion because of their statements and positions.

    In 2011, Peters said that Cuomo should not receive Communion because he is an outspoken proponent of gay marriage. Last month, Peters said, “Pelosi suffers from one of the most malformed consciences in the annals of American Catholic politics or … she is simply hell-bent on using her Catholic identity to attack Catholic values at pretty much every opportunity.”

    In 2002, Catholic Jennifer Granholm’s support of abortion rights became an issue in the gubernatorial race a month before the election, when Detroit Cardinal Adam Maida released a letter saying Catholic politicians had a “special moral obligation” to oppose abortion.

    Last month, Vigneron said at a news conference that maintaining views that oppose abortion and support traditional marriage are important for Catholics.

    “Were we to abandon them, we would be like physicians who didn’t tell their patients that certain forms of behavior are not really in their best interest,” said Vigneron, who oversees 1.3 million Catholics in southeastern Michigan.

    Asked by the Free Press about Catholics who publicly advocate for gay marriage and receive Communion, Vigneron said Sunday: “For a Catholic to receive holy Communion and still deny the revelation Christ entrusted to the church is to try to say two contradictory things at once: ‘I believe the church offers the saving truth of Jesus, and I reject what the church teaches.’ In effect, they would contradict themselves. This sort of behavior would result in publicly renouncing one’s integrity and logically bring shame for a double-dealing that is not unlike perjury.”

    Vigneron said the church wants to help Catholics “avoid this personal disaster.”

    http://www.freep.com/article/2013040...skip-Communion
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    So many of my Catholic nieces and nephews support gay marriage. Scary really. They put the equal sign on their facebook page. My DIL did the same and I think my other DIL would do it as well except she has so many pics of her kids on facebook.

    They "like" the guy from star trek who married his boyfriend. Seems all the shows they watch on TV has pushed for gays and what they want to do. I'm not sure if an article like this would make them think differently.

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    I am not here to judge or make judgements. But what the government does and what the church does are two vastly different things. I believe that committed partners who live as such deserve the same rights and benefits as everyone else. I also do not believe that homosexuality is wrong or a sickness and if it were, would it matter. I also have never read any biblical passage ( I am no expert) saying it was a sin unless forced upon, like the soldiers who took advantage of young boys. I am more disturbed by the news spending tons of time on this one issue instead of what the crooks in washington are doing, or not doing.

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    No - but as a practicing Catholic I get tired of people taking the "Buffet Approach" to their faith ... quote the bible when it is convient and ignore it when it is not... ( Biden and Pelosi leap to mind ) shouting "I am Catholic" when convient but haven't been practicing Faith or attending Church excect for Christmas & Easter - or campaign events.
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    US president undermines Catholic schools after Vatican Prefect praised them
    The US President has made an alarming call for an end to Catholic education in Northern Ireland in spite of the fact that Archbishop Gerhard Müller told Scots that Catholic education was 'a critical component of the Church.’

    BY Ian Dunn | June 17, 2013


    President Barack Obama repeated the oft disproved claim that Catholic education increases division in front of an audience of 2000 young people, including many Catholics, at Belfast’s Waterfront hall when he arrived in the country this morning.

    “If towns remain divided—if Catholics have their schools and buildings and Protestants have theirs, if we can’t see ourselves in one another and fear or resentment are allowed to harden—that too encourages division and discourages cooperation,” the US president said.

    The US politician made the unfounded claim despite a top Vatican official spelling out the undeniable good done by Catholic education in a speech in Glasgow on Saturday and in his homily at Mass on Friday.

    Archbishop Gerhard Müller, prefect of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, told an audience in Scotland that Catholic education provided a rare place where ‘intellectual training, moral discipline and religious commitment would come together’ while giving the presitigous Cardinal Winning Lecture on Saturday to officially launch the St Andrews Foundation for Catholic teacher education at Glasgow University. During Mass at St Andrew’s Cathedral, Glasgow, on Friday night he said that ‘the Catholic school is vitally important … a critical component of the Church,’ adding that Catholic education provides young people with a wonderful opportunity to ‘grow up with Jesus.’

    Mr Obama is in Northern Ireland to take part in the two day G8 Summit at the Lough Erne resort in Enneskillen


    http://www.sconews.co.uk/news/29253/...-praised-them/
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