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Originally Posted by
boopster
A politician's first allegiance is allegedly to the people who elected him/her to represent them. From what I read, the church believes that a Catholic politician should vote based on the teachings of the church and if they go against it, then they don't have the right to participate in communion. This then becomes a tug-of-war between a politician doing the job they were elected to do and their religious beliefs.
You need to separate state & church. The politician should be able to do that. They can pick one or the other but can't have it both ways..sorry..it's kinda like having your cake and eating it too.
Last edited by Anig2u; 11-14-2008 at 12:58 PM.
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11-14-2008 12:55 PM
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I think the church should focus on its own problems. Like molesting children and the clergy having sex with little boys! How can they talk about what is right and wrong when they themselves are not without sin? They want to protect unborn children, but then do unspeakable things to children behind closed doors. Instead of the church protecting our children that are here today, they protect the sinners which are thier own leaders. I don't know which is worse the ones committing these types of acts or the ones protecting them.
If the church wants to preach politics then take away thier tax-exempt status. And if they want to teach about rights and wrongs they should practice what they preach first IMO!
Grandma
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Originally Posted by
meltodd69
I think the church should focus on its own problems. Like molesting children and the clergy having sex with little boys! How can they talk about what is right and wrong when they themselves are not without sin? They want to protect unborn children, but then do unspeakable things to children behind closed doors. Instead of the church protecting our children that are here today, they protect the sinners which are thier own leaders. I don't know which is worse the ones committing these types of acts or the ones protecting them.
If the church wants to preach politics then take away thier tax-exempt status. And if they want to teach about rights and wrongs they should practice what they preach first IMO!
Sounds good, but not all priests & church's are like that. You need to reword it to those who do these things.
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Originally Posted by
meltodd69
I think the church should focus on its own problems. Like molesting children and the clergy having sex with little boys! How can they talk about what is right and wrong when they themselves are not without sin? They want to protect unborn children, but then do unspeakable things to children behind closed doors. Instead of the church protecting our children that are here today, they protect the sinners which are thier own leaders. I don't know which is worse the ones committing these types of acts or the ones protecting them.
If the church wants to preach politics then take away thier tax-exempt status. And if they want to teach about rights and wrongs they should practice what they preach first IMO!
There are a hundred thousand good priests for each sick SOB. But of course the sick SOB makes better press. We had a youth director here that got three under age girls pregnant ... not a whisper on the news ... they were Southern Baptist. Then there was a Prespaterian Pastor who was arressted tried and convicted for fondling ( and worse ) little boys ... nope no news there... There are some sick SOB's in the world ... but don't condemn and entire group for the actions of a few.
Isn't that what you keep saying ?
Maybe you should take your own advise to heart.
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It's the same concept of condemning all Ohioans because a group of a few hundred rioted through Cincinnati several years ago... and "immature adult 'kids'" burned down Cols because they lost an OSU game.
So are all Ohioans bad???
2 days from now, tomorrow will be yesterday.
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Sorry I didn't mean it to sound like I meant all of them. My DS belongs to that faith and his priest is a very good man. That was my mistake and I stand corrected.
Grandma
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My only questions are: "Why are more priests not doing this?" and "Why did this not happen sooner?"
The Catholic church has been outspoken about being pro-life for over twenty years now. Has a saturation point finally been reached where many in the Catholic community are finally saying, "Enough is enough"? Let us hope so.
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Our Parish has been doing this since the election -- every week, without fail...
most of the "traditional" Catholic Churches (you know the ones -- devout members, kneelers, stations of the cross, ladies wear chapel veils) do it here -- versus the "liberal" Catholic Churches (you know those too -- no kneelers, everyone thinks they are the priest, no one genuflects or makes the sign of the cross upon entering the AUDITORIUM).
2 days from now, tomorrow will be yesterday.
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Originally Posted by
atprm
It's the same concept of condemning all Ohioans because a group of a few hundred rioted through Cincinnati several years ago... and "immature adult 'kids'" burned down Cols because they lost an OSU game.
So are all Ohioans bad???
Oh ok. I get it. So it's just like condeming all gays as 'in your face' because a few had an ostentatious parade.
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Originally Posted by
Bahet
Oh ok. I get it. So it's just like condeming all gays as 'in your face' because a few had an ostentatious parade.
We would agree they aren't helping. They are the Fred Phelps of Baptists.
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If they didnt have parades to clue people in that this is a problem, people would say "Well, they obviously are happy with the way things are or else they'd be trying to do something."
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