Thread: How 25 Years of Gay Activism in Hollywood Has Paid Off

Originally Posted by janelle

What about the bi-sexual? Now they CAN chose which lifestyle they will live. I guess they want to play both sides of the road. Maybe it depends on who has the best offer, like Anne Heche and Ellen.

Steve Martin wrote her into his script about being a lesbian/straight, he lived with her for quite awhile. She went after those in power---man or woman.

Did you stop rocking in your chair,smiling to yourself?

What about the bi-sexual? Now they CAN chose which lifestyle they will live. I guess they want to play both sides of the road. Maybe it depends on who has the best offer, like Anne Heche and Ellen.

It's called Pan-Sexual. Where a person doesn't look at gender and just loves people for who they are..man or woman.

Nevermind I changed my mind about asking .

portraying gay characters on tv isn't an agenda-it is a reflection of life, same as portrayal of people of different races, physical appearances, religions, disabilities, etc. and I don't see it as in your face, if I hold hands w/my DH in public is that pushing my heterosexuality in your face, no I don't think so. If you don't like a show, don't watch it, and by all means monitor what your children watch. I love Two and a Half Men, one of my fav shows, but the content is completely inappropriate for my children so I don't allow them to watch. Gay people don't choose to be gay anymore than I chose not to be so these complaints just seem silly to me. People are who they are and this world is made up of all kinds. And as far as Leave it to Beaver, some may think they grew up in that kind of neighborhood, but you never know what goes on behind closed doors.
That being said there is a lack of quality family programming on network tv but IMO there is a lack of quality programming of any kind on network tv nowadays. Sad, but they choose shows which will win advertising dollars.
There are however some good choices and cable/sat if you have it offers many. Seems to me that networks have moved away from family type shows maybe because there are so many channels that cater to children, families, now-ABC family, disney, etc.

Originally Posted by krisharry

portraying gay characters on tv isn't an agenda-it is a reflection of life, same as portrayal of people of different races, physical appearances, religions, disabilities, etc. and I don't see it as in your face, if I hold hands w/my DH in public is that pushing my heterosexuality in your face, no I don't think so. If you don't like a show, don't watch it, and by all means monitor what your children watch. I love Two and a Half Men, one of my fav shows, but the content is completely inappropriate for my children so I don't allow them to watch. Gay people don't choose to be gay anymore than I chose not to be so these complaints just seem silly to me. People are who they are and this world is made up of all kinds. And as far as Leave it to Beaver, some may think they grew up in that kind of neighborhood, but you never know what goes on behind closed doors.
That being said there is a lack of quality family programming on network tv but IMO there is a lack of quality programming of any kind on network tv nowadays. Sad, but they choose shows which will win advertising dollars.
There are however some good choices and cable/sat if you have it offers many. Seems to me that networks have moved away from family type shows maybe because there are so many channels that cater to children, families, now-ABC family, disney, etc.

I know I thanked you already but I have to say again thank you and that was a great post. Very well spoken.

Originally Posted by krisharry

... portraying gay characters on tv isn't an agenda

Here I will have to disagree with you ... as the WRITERS and DIRECTORS of the sitcoms and tv dramas have THEMSELVES stated that they do in fact have an agenda...

Los Angeles magazine writer David Ehrenstein boasted in a May cover story, “More than Friends”: “There are openly gay writers on almost every major prime-time situation comedy you can think of … In short, when it comes to sitcoms, gays rule.”

“Ehrenstein, a professed homosexual, cheerfully admits that gay writers are attempting to influence viewers with a homosexual agenda:

The gay and lesbian writers of today have been pushing the envelope any chance they get. In fact, they’re encouraged to do so. Since current comedies are positively obsessed with the intimate sex lives of straight young singles, who better to write them than members of a minority famed for its sexual candor … as a result of the influx of gay writers, even the most heterosexual of sitcoms often possess that most elusive of undertones – the “gay sensibility” — ‘Frasier’ being a case in point.’ “The ‘gay sensibility consists, according to two homo-sexual writers, of ‘a very urban, very educated, ironic, detached, iconoclastic attitude.’ Plus, a deliberate over-dose of sexuality.”

... the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation now routinely vets all TV scripts dealing with homosexuality to make sure that the public sees only what the activists want.
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A September 2008 fund-raising mailer from GLAAD proclaims: Quote:
“History proves that social change drives legal and political progress. To succeed as a community, we must transform the way millions of Americans feel about us.”
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With a record number of homosexual characters on television, and only pro-gay story lines, it’s not surprising that polls show that Americans are becoming increasingly accepting of homosexuality.

The activists are well on their way toward their goal of recasting traditional sexual morality as a form of bigotry.

2 agendas going on-one for advertising dollars and one for people to accept gays as part of life-that's how I took it-not as an agenda to turn us all into gay people or to push their lifestyle on others. I don't think it's any different than black writers wanting stable middleclass black characters instead of gangster thug. Well, crud I'm having a hard time trying to put this in words.
I guess what I am saying is if there is an agenda it's one of people accepting them for who they are -people, just people- if everyone stopped labeling everyone it would be simpler. No different than any other group wanting to be accepted.