Thread: I Kinda Feel Sorry for Michelle Obama

Originally Posted by candygirl

It's sad how envious and jealous you people are of the Obamas.

Michelle has shown nothing but class,and I applaud her for that,and she is standing by her husband with dignity.

A few of Michelle's comments with "class" and "dignity"

1. … “for the first time in my adult life
I am proud of my country
because it feels like hope
is finally making a comeback.”

2. “We have become a nation
of struggling folks who are barely making it
every day. Folks are just jammed up,
and it’s gotten worse over my lifetime.
And, doggone it, I’m young. Forty-four!”

3. We’re a country that is
“just downright mean,”
we are “guided by fear,”
we’re a nation of cynics,
sloths, and complacents.

4. “You’re looking at a young couple
that’s just a few years out of debt.”

Plu-eeze ... these people bemoan and lament their current lot in life, as if their millions of dollars is equivalent to the money I have in my pocket for lunch, and that they don’t know how they’re going to survive off of their 7 figure annual income.

I find it amusing when the millionaire race hustlers complain about biggotry and how unfair the country is. Especially when they are the product of affirmative action which allowed them to become among the top 1% wealthiest people in the world. Some b*lls to whine when you have so much. Hmmm, think you would have achieved that in Africa Michelle? No matter how much we give these race huslters it will never be enough. So why do we keep trying to appease? A lost cause.

Originally Posted by candygirl

It's alright for whites to be racist,but when a Black person say something or speak the truth that whites don't agree on, he becomes a racist.

Speak the truth ??

Originally Posted by candygirl

I have read many racist comments on this forum,but you will probably be the first to yell " I'm not a racist"., but yet you all are first to judge others.

You demonstrat YOUR racism right here ... because you can not seem to comprehend that the reasons that we do not support Obama have NOTHING to do with the color of his skin.

and - when you run for POTUS you are in effect ASKING the voters to judge whether or not you are suited to running the country...

Originally Posted by candygirl

If you don't care for them ,that's fine ,but the voters and delegates are saying something different.

Could it be .... "Any One But Hillary" ?

Originally Posted by candygirl

It's alright for whites to be racist,but when a Black person say something or speak the truth that whites don't agree on, he becomes a racist.

How utterly sophisticated of me... I take it we should all just sit back and allow her and her husband to say what they want, do what they want and never question their abilities. Got it. Thanks.

That is exactly That is exactly what we are up against. We’re just supposed to swallow hook, line, & sinker “Hope and Change”[/b] without requiring an explanation. We are not allowed to make the connection between Mrs. BO”s words and the teachings of Wright. We are not allowed to question his true world view given the sleezy company he keeps. We cannot ask what his qualifications or accomplishments are that qualify him to be POTUS. We cannot even mention his middle name.

In other words, SHUT UP and don’t be a racist. He is ENTITLED to be President!

None of this matters. The “we need a black president!” crowd is halfway to their dream. Yeah, but the guy is a racist (Wright)-so? But the guy is an idiot (Invade who??)-so? But the guy is corrupt (Tony ?) - so? But the guy is a liar ( winks at Canada ) - so ? But the guys wife HATES America and since he hasn’t said a word to counter that, does he - so ?

HE’S BLACK! WOO HOO! Can’t wait for the press conferences with the Nation of Islam bodyguards all around him We need a black guy - credentials are optional.

Originally Posted by candygirl

It's sad how envious and jealous you people are of the Obamas.

envious and jealous? I think not.

Originally Posted by candygirl

Michelle has shown nothing but class,and I applaud her for that,and she is standing by her husband with dignity.

Michelle has about as much CLASS as a hooker in a ball gown.

Originally Posted by candygirl

Negative comments were made before Rev. Wright came into the picture,so he was just fuel for the fire.
It's alright for whites to be racist,but when a Black person say something or speak the truth that whites don't agree on, he becomes a racist.

Negative comments are said about all the candidates, that's the way Public life is. Get used to it. I highly doubt ANY of them are "speaking the truth".

Originally Posted by candygirl

I have read many racist comments on this forum,but you will probably be the first to yell " I'm not a racist"., but yet you all are first to judge others.

You have READ them? Can you cite them? You certainly have proved yourself as 'one of us' just by this post alone....do you want to borrow a spade or shovel?

Originally Posted by candygirl

If you don't care for them ,that's fine ,but the voters and delegates are saying something different.

Many have already said that if Obama wins the nominee they are turning to Republican--I suspect that will be the case come November.

Originally Posted by atprm

Many have already said that if Obama wins the nominee they are turning to Republican--I suspect that will be the case come November.

Thats exactly how I feel.......I would vote for Clinton over McCain but I wont vote for Obama over him. I would explain my reasons BUT I think we all know some will not understand and just say I am a racist

By the way, if people who don't vote for Obama are racist, are the ones who don't vote for Hillary anti feminist? Gee what does that make you if you vote for McCain?

Delusional ?

Clowns to the left of me...jokers to the right...here I am stuck in the middle with you.

That's pretty much how I feel about McCain.

Originally Posted by ssgjeg

By the way, if people who don't vote for Obama are racist, are the ones who don't vote for Hillary anti feminist?

Feminists sharply divided between Clinton, Obama
By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer
Sat May 10, 10:31 AM ET


NEW YORK - No constituency is more eager to see a woman win the presidency than America's feminists, yet — despite Hillary Rodham Clinton's historic candidacy — the women's movement finds itself wrenchingly divided over the Democratic race as it heads toward the finish.

At breakfast forums, in op-ed columns, across the blogosphere, the debate has been heartfelt and sometimes bitter. Are the activist women supporting front-runner Barack Obama betraying their gender? Are Clinton's feminist backers mired in an outdated, women's-liberation mind-set?

Ellen Bravo is a Milwaukee author and activist who advocates on behalf of working women — and is an Obama supporter. She faults Clinton for her 2002 vote authorizing the Iraq war and believes the Illinois senator would be more supportive of grass-roots political action.

At times, Bravo, 64, has been dismayed by the harsh criticism directed at women like herself from pro-Clinton feminists.

"I felt it was an ultimatum — vote for Hillary Clinton or you're betraying the women's movement," Bravo said. "It's very self-defeating and alienating, particularly to younger women who, regardless of who they support, don't like to be told, 'Do this. Do that.'"

Clinton supporter Gloria Feldt, former president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, accepts that the women's movement is not single-minded, yet worries that the Obama-Clinton rift is eroding whatever clout it might have.

"We're squandering an opportunity to be seen as a voting bloc that turns elections," Feldt said. "Unless we are working together, in a strategically thought-out effort to vote in our own best interests, we are in danger of never having another election where people will say women can determine the outcome."

Overall, Clinton's now-endangered campaign has survived largely because of her 60 percent to 36 percent edge over Obama among white women voters in the primaries to date. But among college-educated white women — the demographic of many feminists and of Clinton herself — her edge is much smaller, 54 percent to 43 percent, according to exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and television networks.

One factor in play is generational. There is a widespread perception in the women's movement that younger feminists tilt more toward Obama while most of their elders favor Clinton.

Clinton frequently mentions the elderly women she's met on the campaign trail who were born before women were able to vote and have confided to her they thought they'd never see a woman elected president.

Indeed, 74-year-old Gloria Steinem, a Clinton supporter and icon of the women's movement, riled some younger, pro-Obama feminists with a New York Times op-ed suggesting that they were in denial about America's persisting "sexual caste system."

Ariel Garfinkel, a sophomore at Mount Holyoke College, wrote one of the many counter-arguments in an online column. She and many other young feminists supported Obama because they perceived the Clinton campaign as trying to capitalize on racial divisions and to impugn Obama's patriotism.

"This pattern of old-style politics and adherence to un-feminist values is part and parcel of the campaign Hillary Clinton has run," Garfinkel wrote. "In this race, Barack Obama is the true feminist."

New York-based author Courtney Martin, also an Obama supporter, wrote on Glamour magazine's blog Glamocracy last month that she was not backing Clinton "in part because she reminds me of being scolded by my mother."

But the 28-year-old Martin has joined in appeals for activist women in the two camps to tone down their hostilities and prepare to work together on behalf of the eventual Democratic nominee.

"I deeply respect what Clinton has endured as a woman painstakingly unknotting gender and power," Martin wrote for The American Prospect.

Another young New York-based feminist writer, Hannah Seligson, backs Clinton and feels somewhat isolated among her mostly pro-Obama peers.

"I shy away from conversations with them," said Seligson, 25. "They're so passionate and there's so much vitriol toward Hillary."

For all the divisions among individual women, there was little dissension at the best-known feminist group — the National Organization for Women — before its political action committee endorsed Clinton in March 2007.

NOW's president, Kim Gandy, sees Clinton's determination and combativeness as among her strongest attributes.

"The women who've had to struggle the hardest and run into the most difficulty because they're women are clearly gravitating to a candidate they identify with," Gandy said. "They see her fighting."

Gandy knows some feminists dismiss Clinton as a woman whose political ascension depended on her husband's career, but she rejects that thinking.

"She might have been president instead of him if things had gone a little differently," Gandy said. "No one will ever know whether her marriage to Bill Clinton held her back politically as much as it moved her forward."

While still holding out hope that Clinton can win, Gandy suggests that her defeat would be a huge blow to some feminists. "It's hard to imagine that anytime soon there will be another candidate as extraordinary as Hillary Clinton," she said.

Gloria Feldt conveyed similar sentiment.

"I'd feel very sad to miss this enormous opportunity to bring the United States of America into the circle of nations that have had women as their leaders," she said. "I feel strongly when you have the opportunity to support a women so clearly qualified and capable, do it. Do it for your daughter."

The campaign has brought the women's movement to a crossroads, according to Obama supporter Kate Michelman, the former head of the abortion-rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America.

"We're at a time and place where we don't have to base everything we think about in terms of gender, and that's a sign of progress," she said. "This rigid view that when any woman runs, we have to all fall into line — that's contradictory to what I consider feminism to be about."

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