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Re: Ten Worst US Presidents
If they did secede we wouldn't be a great nation today. Thank God Lincoln was in charge not to let it happen. And the Civil Rights movement brought out lots of states rights governors wanting the feds to let them have the right to keep segregation. I don't think that was good for our nation. A house divided will not stand.
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03-08-2007 12:26 AM
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Re: Ten Worst US Presidents
Originally Posted by
janelle
If they did secede we wouldn't be a great nation today. Thank God Lincoln was in charge not to let it happen. And the Civil Rights movement brought out lots of states rights governors wanting the feds to let them have the right to keep segregation. I don't think that was good for our nation. A house divided will not stand.
This has to be the most intellegent thing I have EVER heard you say. I am just completely shocked. Keep it up.
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If he would have let the states leave then he would have been a bad President for not keeping us together and because he didnt let them leave you view him as a bad President, on that subject I dont think he would have won either way. But I do see what you mean.
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Re: Ten Worst US Presidents
Originally Posted by
YNKYH8R
This has to be the most intellegent thing I have EVER heard you say. I am just completely shocked. Keep it up.
Adam, this sounds rather insulting.
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Re: Ten Worst US Presidents
Originally Posted by
freeby4me
If he would have let the states leave then he would have been a bad President for not keeping us together and because he didnt let them leave you view him as a bad President, on that subject I dont think he would have won either way. But I do see what you mean.
What would have made him a "good" President would have been if he had attempted to fix the problems before it escalated to the point of where they Southern states were to the point of wanting to secede.
It is the Right of the People to Alter or Abolish Government
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Re: Ten Worst US Presidents
Originally Posted by
tngirl
So, if it was not against the law then why were the Confederate States not allowed to succede? Does that not make my point as to why Lincoln was not a good President?
The Confederate states DID succeed from the Union. They set up their own govenrment and Capitol. It was only after the Civil War that the laws were passed prohibiting states from suceeding. Wasn't long ago that South Carolina tried to circumvent the laws and there was much talk about the state succeeding.
Just a couple of interesting reads regarding the Civil War and Succession of the Confederate States.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/ostrowski/ostrowski31.html
http://ehistory.osu.edu/world/articl...iew.cfm?AID=34
Last edited by Crick; 03-08-2007 at 06:21 AM.
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Re: Ten Worst US Presidents
I will have to agree with Tngirl on the whole Lincoln thing. He didn't care about the slaves. When he was in the North it was all Slavery is wrong, we must abolish it. When he was in the South, he was all for Slavery. I realize he was a politician and they flip flop constantly, but I just find this to be disgusting.
Frederick Douglas wrote some interesting books regarding Lincoln's presidency. You should check them out.
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Re: Ten Worst US Presidents
Originally Posted by
Crick
The point is, they were illegally forced by force to rejoin the Union. The Union, led by Lincoln, attacked the Confederate States without due cause.
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Re: Ten Worst US Presidents
I was taught Lincoln freed the slaves when I was in school. Are they now rewriting history? People just love a good constiracy and parents are shocked to read the books their kids are learning from today.
Of course, history will tell the side of the winners but would you still want slavery? Would you want a divided country with the Southern states having a different government?
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Re: Ten Worst US Presidents
Originally Posted by
janelle
I was taught Lincoln freed the slaves when I was in school. Are they now rewriting history? People just love a good constiracy and parents are shocked to read the books their kids are learning from today.
Of course, history will tell the side of the winners but would you still want slavery? Would you want a divided country with the Southern states having a different government?
Are you referring to the Frederick Douglas books I wrote about?
If so, Frederick Douglas was a black abolitionists who lived during the Civil War. He was born a slave, he escaped from his owner, and went onto become one of the most prominent African Americans of his time.
He wrote books and newspapers. He spoke with Lincoln often on the treatment of black soldiers during the Civil War.
His books are not rewriting history, his books are our history.
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No, not those. I am referring to the school books kids are learing from today. Parents are shocked to learn its different than what they were taught.
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