Thread: OMG she killed her baby in a microwave!!!!

Read a story yesterday about a 'woman' who put her 10 day old baby in the washer machine while on a three day meth binge. Her roomate found the child when the washer was making noises due to being unbalanced during the spin cycle.... WTH ??

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A 26-year-old mother is being held on drug charges while authorities investigate the Thursday death of her 10-day-old daughter, who was allegedly placed in a washing machine that was running. Police in Oklahoma call it one of the most difficult cases they've ever had.Lyndsey Fiddler was booked into the jail in Bartlesville on a failure to appear for a court review on an April arrest for possessing drugs. She was charged with second-degree manslaughter. A relative told investigators she went to the home and found the mother asleep and had a hard time waking her. The aunt said she found the baby inside the washer. When Fiddler placed a call to 911 all she said was, "My baby is dead." Fiddler originally claimed to 911 the infant had been killed by a family member.Two young boys in the home have been taken by the Department of Human Services.

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In this story, she lived with a relative. How can doctors and nurses let these woman take home a precious baby after giving birth when they are drug addicts? She was arrested for drugs when she was 4 months pregnant and should never have been allowed to keep that poor baby. WTH is wrong with people and a system who let that happen? It was obviously acceptable to the relative she lived with as well that she had a 3 day bender while she had custody of children. Society and human behaviour is revolting these days.

Nov 08, 2010
A ten-day-old baby girl died in Oklahoma after being placed in a washing machine for an entire spin cycle. The child's mother Lyndsey Fiddler has been charged with second-degree manslaughter after she put her daughter into the machine along with a pile of laundry. The death left many of the emergency crews and police who responded to the incident in tears, with a veteran police chief admitting it was the most tragic crime scene he had ever seen, The Daily Mail reports. A family member, Rhonda Coshatt, who also lived with Ms Fiddler, told police she saw Fiddler leave the living room with the baby saying she was going to feed her, according to a police search warrant. A short time later, Ms Fiddler reportedly returned to the living room without the baby and passed out on a couch. Ms Coshatt went looking for the baby and could not find her, the warrant stated. Ms Coshatt then found the baby inside the washing machine after hearing loud, banging noises coming from the laundry. Ms Coshatt told police Fiddler had "been up for three days using meth" and that she thought she smelled methamphetamine burning in a bathroom earlier in the day, the warrant stated. Paramedics tried to revive the newborn baby after she was pulled out of the washing machine but she was pronounced dead on arrival at hospital. Her two older children, aged four and three, were taken into care by social workers. Ms Fiddler has previously been arrested for assault, driving without a license and not having her two older children in car seats. She was also arrested in April for taking drugs when she was four months pregnant.

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report released Tuesday shows that Department of Human Services workers investigated the mother of a 10-day-old infant found dead in a washing machine six times before the baby’s death on Nov. 4.

Among the complaints was a report that a relative had died in the home from a drug overdose and that other relatives failed to report the death for seven hours because they were “shooting up speed” when the relative died.

The report, issued by the Oklahoma Commission on Children and Youth Office of Juvenile System Oversight on the death of 10-day-old Maggie Trammel, indicates there had been several reports regarding the care of Trammel and two other children, ages 5 and 8, in the home. The reports dated as far back as March 2009.

Trammel’s mother, 26-year-old Lyndsey Dawn Fiddler, is currently being held on $100,000 bond on charges of child neglect.

Fiddler’s case has garnered national attention since the baby’s death was reported.

According to the OCCY report, the first complaint, which was made on March 27, 2009, stated that Fiddler’s children were reported to have been absent from day care. Fiddler stated the children had been sick.

“The reporter stated that Lyndsey Fiddler and the children lived with a relative until about two or three weeks earlier when they were thrown out. The reporter was concerned about the children’s safety,” the report states.

DHS reportedly accepted the report and screened it out on April 4 as “Not Child Abuse/Neglect,” and documented that “no information was given that stated the children’s welfare was at substantial risk of serious neglect or physical danger.”

The second report, on Oct. 12, 2009, said that Fiddler and two other adults living in the home “all used drugs in front of the children” and that “the adults passed out from drug use” and that “one of the adults was so high that they fell asleep in their food.”

The report stated that a 5-year-old “walked down to the end of the road and the adults did not know where the child had gone.” DHS reportedly concluded at that time that there were “high red flags” regarding Fiddler’s drug use — and that she reportedly tested positive in a drug screen — but found that the children were not in danger, appearing “clean, appropriately dressed and developmentally on target.”

In the third report, it was stated on April 8, Fiddler had been arrested on charges of drug possession and had tried to smuggle drugs into the jail before bonding out. The reporting party indicated that they were concerned that Fiddler had “left the children with an inappropriate caretaker in the past.” Nine days later, DHS concluded that the report was “Not Child Abuse/Neglect.”

The fourth report, which was made on June 21, alleged that a relative of Fiddler had “died in her home of a drug overdose” while Fiddler was pregnant with Trammel. The report states that the children were taken from the home by another relative but that “an additional relative wanted the children to stay there but kept passing out from drugs while trying to argue the point.”

Fiddler reportedly told the relative to take the children because she did not have food in the home. The report states there was no refrigerator in the home and the children were hungry and dirty.

DHS concluded at that time that there was a “red flag” due to drug use but that DHS was “unable to prove neglect or abuse of the children.”

The fifth report, dated Sept. 14, stated “concern for the unborn child of Lyndsey Fiddler and said that she was “taking prescription drugs to the point of not being able to walk down stairs, having slurred speech” and was due to deliver her baby in late October. The report was screened out nine days later, recommending that the care of Fiddler’s two other children be assessed.

The final report, prior the baby’s death, was made on Oct. 25, two days after the baby’s birth, saying that “Fiddler had given birth and had reportedly used drugs throughout her pregnancy.” DHS had reportedly contacted nine collateral witnesses regarding the report and the investigation was still open at the time of Trammel’s death. The report noted that “Fiddler was willing to work on parenting services.”

Three more reports were made to DHS following the infant’s death, including one the day after the baby’s death saying that there was concern that “the surviving siblings had not been removed from the home.” DHS at that time documented that “the children were placed voluntarily with relatives who were seeking legal guardianship.”

According to an affidavit filed in the case by Bartlesville police, when questioned, Fiddler reportedly denied “knowing how her baby got placed into the washing machine,” and she reportedly denied that she used methamphetamine ‘anymore.’”

A drug screen administered by police following her arrest, however, reportedly returned positive results for “methamphetamine, amphetamines, benzodiazepine and opiates.”

When contacted today, DHS officials said they are unable to comment on specific cases, but did offer some insight into DHS policy.

According to Dixie Clayborn, local DHS intake supervisor, child welfare workers investigate each complaint in compliance with the agency’s policies and state law.

“Our office receives referrals and they are assigned when they meet the criteria that is laid out for us as state statutes (require),” Clayborn said.

“When we arrive in the home, we look over everything that was mentioned in the referral. Sometimes it is all true, and other times we find that nothing in the referral was represented accurately.

“All concerning factors are researched to the extent the law allows DHS to do so.”

Clayborn said the agency’s policy does not allow drug testing to be done during an investigation or assessment.

She said the agency considers all available information when deciding what actions to take regarding a referral.

“We take current information that we receive as well as historical information,” she said. “Basically, we’re putting together a big picture puzzle as to what is happening. Any information that people want to give us concerning the welfare of children is taken very seriously.”

...but Tammy .... but ... but ... but .... that might infringe on their civil rights ? They might sue for having their feeling hurt ? As far as the Goverment is concerned the rights of the parents are far more important their the rights of the children ... even the right to survive.

Jury convicts Ohio mom in baby's microwave death
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DAYTON, Ohio – Jurors in an Ohio woman's third trial found her guilty Friday of killing her baby daughter by cooking her in a microwave oven.

China Arnold was convicted of aggravated murder in the death of 28-day-old Paris Talley in August 2005. Arnold could receive the death penalty. The sentencing phase will begin Monday.

Arnold's first trial ended in a mistrial. She was found guilty in the second trial, but that conviction was reversed last fall. An appeals court found there was misconduct by prosecutors and that the trial court made an error by not allowing a material witness to testify in Arnold's defense.

Prosecutors have said Arnold, 31, intentionally put the baby in the microwave after a fight with her boyfriend. The defense had argued that someone else was responsible.

Medical experts testified that the baby died after her temperature reached 107 to 108 degrees Fahrenheit and that she probably was in the microwave for more than two minutes, dying quickly afterward. "She died because she was overheated," said Dr. Marcella Fierro, retired chief medical examiner for Virginia. "She was cooked."

Messages seeking comment from the prosecutor and defense attorney were left at their offices, but a gag order in the case prevents anyone connected to it from commenting outside court.

Assistant Prosecutor Dan Brandt told jurors in court that Arnold's actions were "even more purposeful" than a slaying with a gun or knife, the Dayton Daily News reported. "Baby Paris is without life, but she's not without a voice," Brandt told jurors in closing arguments. "Please listen to her."

Brandt said that Arnold had to carry the baby over, place her in the microwave, shut the door and press buttons. Then she waited while her child cooked to death, Brandt said.

Defense attorney Jon Paul Rion argued that the evidence pointed as much to Terrell Talley, the baby's father, as it did Arnold. "This doesn't make sense to you," Rion told jurors. "It doesn't. I've been watching your faces."

The prosecutor cut and fit evidence to show "this loving mother somehow was so evil that she killed her baby in this way," he said.

Rion said Talley's testimony that Arnold said "I killed my baby" left out important context: She only meant that she failed as a mother by allowing the crime to happen and not that she killed her child. The defense attorney also said that Talley's sneakers were stained with a bodily substance that should have been tested.

Arnold also was very intoxicated, Rion said. "No mother is going to do this, in this way," Rion said. "China Arnold is innocent of these charges."

Brandt said that Arnold admitted to police that the baby woke her up and that she was alone, beside her other sleeping children. There also were no signs of a break-in, he said. "She eliminated everyone else," Brandt said.

Talley testified Arnold was drunk, but not so drunk that she would not know what happened. He said she told him the baby would still be alive if he hadn't been unfaithful to her.

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