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Jolie Rouge
02-14-2014, 05:32 AM
New gender options for Facebook users
By MARTHA MENDOZA AP National Writer February 13, 2014

MENLO PARK, Calif. (AP) — You don’t have to be just male or female on Facebook anymore. The social media giant is adding a customizable option with about 50 different terms people can use to identify their gender as well as three preferred pronoun choices: him, her or them.

Facebook said the changes, shared with The Associated Press before the launch on Thursday, initially cover the company’s 159 million monthly users in the U.S. and are aimed at giving people more choices in how they describe themselves, such as androgynous, bi-gender, intersex, gender fluid or transsexual.

“There’s going to be a lot of people for whom this is going to mean nothing, but for the few it does impact, it means the world,” said Facebook software engineer Brielle Harrison, who worked on the project and is herself undergoing gender transformation, from male to female. On Thursday, while watchdogging the software for any problems, she said she was also changing her Facebook identity from Female to TransWoman.

“All too often transgender people like myself and other gender nonconforming people are given this binary option, do you want to be male or female? What is your gender? And it’s kind of disheartening because none of those let us tell others who we really are,” she said. “This really changes that, and for the first time I get to go to the site and specify to all the people I know what my gender is.”

Facebook, which has 1.15 billion active monthly users around the world, also allows them to keep their gender identity private and will continue to do so.

The change to the gender selection option is seen as a major step toward acceptance for people who don’t self-identify as male or female, but the high-profile development seemed senseless to those who believe in two genders, no more.

“Of course Facebook is entitled to manage its wildly popular site as it sees fit, but here is the bottom line: It’s impossible to deny the biological reality that humanity is divided into two halves - male and female,” said Jeff Johnston, an issues analyst for Focus on the Family, an influential national religious organization based in Denver. “Those petitioning for the change insist that there are an infinite number of genders, but just saying it doesn’t make it so. That said, we have a great deal of compassion for those who reject their biological sex and believe they are the opposite sex.”

Masen Davis, executive director of the San Francisco-based Transgender Law Center, said it may be hard for some people to understand the importance of having the ability to select from multiple genders online. But he said many transgender people will be thrilled with the change.

“We applaud Facebook for making it possible for people to be their authentic selves online,” he said.

In the past decade, the transgender movement has become much more organized and outspoken, demanding the kind of civil rights and respect already sought by gay activists. During this time, the transgender umbrella has been growing well beyond transsexuals to encompass a wide variety of gender identities.

The move by Facebook came after years of lobbying from users, some who started Facebook pages to petition for the change. Google+ offers male, female and “other” as choices, but transgender advocates said Facebook’s many specific options puts the platform well ahead of any other online community. About 1 percent of Google+ users identify as other.

The idea of expanding gender choices percolated at Facebook for about a year and started to come to fruition during an in-house brainstorming four months ago, project manager Lexi Ross said.

Transgender activist Nori Herras-Castaneda, a spokeswoman for the Billy DeFrank LGBT Community Center in San Jose, said her community has been waiting for this to happen for a long time.

“We always talk about how gender is a spectrum,” she said. “I can see a lot of people being extremely happy about this.”

At this point, Facebook targets advertising according to male or female genders. For those who change to something neutral, ads will be targeted based on the pronoun they select for themselves. Unlike getting engaged or married, changing gender is not registered as a “life event” on the site and won’t post on timelines. Therefore, Facebook said advertisers cannot target ads to those who declare themselves transgender or recently changed their gender.

Users also can separately indicate whether they want to be referred to as he, she or they.

Facebook came up with its range of terms after consulting with leading gay and transgender activists, and the company plans to continue working with them. Facebook started the options in the U.S. and plans to take it global after working with activists abroad to come up with terms appropriate in other countries.

Herras-Castaneda said she did expect some anger.

“Any time the transgender community makes advances, there is backlash, and this is a very big advance, so yes, we’ll face some problems, no doubt,” she said.

At Facebook, staffers said the expanded options were never questioned, from CEO Mark Zuckerberg on down.

“Really, there was no debate within Facebook about the social implications at all,” said Alex Schultz, director of growth. “It was simple: Not allowing people to express something so fundamental is not really cool so we did something. Hopefully a more open and connected world will, by extension, make this a more understanding and tolerant world.”

http://theadvocate.com/home/8370236-125/new-gender-options-for-facebook

‘Gender Neutral’ Employee Quits,
Then Sues Former Bosses for $518,000
Because They Called Her ‘Lady’

By Kirsiten Anderen/Life Site News On February 12, 2014

A Portland catering company is being sued for $518,000 by a former employee who alleges her coworkers would not stop referring to her as a woman even after she asked them to stop, reports

Valeria Jones, the lawsuit's plaintiff, identifies herself as "gender neutral," according to the suit. When she applied to work at the Bon Appetit Management Company, a corporate catering service, she says she purposely left the boxes beside "male" and female" on the application form unchecked, but the company never mentioned the omission.

Jones claims her coworkers repeatedly referred to her as "miss," "lady," and "little lady" even after she told them she believes she is "not a female or a male" and asked them to use gender neutral words when speaking to or about her. According to the suit, her coworkers failed to do so, insisting that she "looked like a woman" and comparing her to a female celebrity whom they believed looked similar to Jones.

The suit states Jones asked her bosses to require all employees to attend a diversity training session focused on gender identity issues, but the request went unheeded. Jones also claims she complained to human resources, but was never contacted.

http://crossmap.christianpost.com/news/gender-neutral-employee-quits-then-sues-former-bosses-for-518000-because-they-called-her-lady-8900

Jolie Rouge
02-14-2014, 05:37 AM
Gender-Neutral Employee Valeria Jones Sues Catering Company For Half Million Because of "She"
By Allison Geller, Mon, February 10, 2014

A former catering worker is suing Bon Appetit Management Co. for $518,000, alleging that the company did not respecting her gender neutrality. Valeria Jones claims that her co-workers called her female-specific terms like “miss,” “lady” and “little lady” at a Multnomah County branch of the California-based catering enterprise, though Jones identifies as gender-neutral and explained that she was “was not a female or a male and that the term was unwelcome,” according to the lawsuit.

The suit states that Jones began working with the catering outlet in March 2013, the Oregonian reports. She left the gender identity question blank on the application, which did not raise questions. Jones asked the managers to inform the other employees about gender identity issues, but they failed to do so. This caused Jones high levels of emotional distress.

“Plaintiff cried regularly at work and at home during this time,” the suit states.

Jones eventually quit, alleging that a complaint to human resources was ignored.

Jones and Portland attorney Donal Courtney are asking the catering company for $18,682 in lost wages and benefits, plus $500,000 for humiliation and suffering.

Bon Appetit, which owns over 500 catering outlets in 32 states. issued no specific comment on the case. Vice president Maisie Ganzler told the Oregonian, “I can say we are an equal opportunity employer that embraces diversity of all kinds.”

The suit also reports that Jones looked like a certain female celebrity, inviting comparisons from co-workers, Gender Identity Watch reports.

While “zie” (pronounced “zee”) or “they” are sometimes used by people who identify as gender-neutral, the suit, filed this week in Multnomah County Circuit Court, doesn’t specify if Jones asked to be referred to by a certain pronoun.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/gender-neutral-employee-valeria-jones-sues-catering-company-half-million-because-she

So what were they supposed to do ?? If they called her "it" - which is the most common "gender neutral pronoun" I can think of - I would imagine s/he would have been even MORE offended ?

3lilpigs
02-14-2014, 06:14 AM
So what were they supposed to do ?? If they called her "it" - which is the most common "gender neutral pronoun" I can think of - I would imagine s/he would have been even MORE offended ?

Exactly! What are they/we suppose to call her? "Valerie" is a womans name, and she looked like a woman.

I'm sick of all this politically correct schmit!




The suit states Jones asked her bosses to require all employees to attend a diversity training session focused on gender identity issues, but the request went unheeded.

Sorry, but I have enough things to be trained on at BOTH my jobs, and I can barely keep track of that crap!

Jolie Rouge
02-14-2014, 06:31 AM
Exactly! What are they/we suppose to call her? "Valerie" is a womans name, and she looked like a woman.

I'm sick of all this politically correct schmit!


The suit states Jones asked her bosses to require all employees to attend a diversity training session focused on gender identity issues, but the request went unheeded.

Sorry, but I have enough things to be trained on at BOTH my jobs, and I can barely keep track of that crap!

Maybe Jones should have taken training to understand that most people take things at "face value" and since she looked like a duck, walked like a duck and talked like a duck ... even looking like a certain female celebrity duck ... that others would think she was a "DUCK". Without being sexist or maintaining stereotypes ... if she went home and "cried" ... then she was acting like a little girl. "Miss" and "Lady" are not exactly scatological remarks .. most would consider them endearments.... at work I call most everyone "honey", "Darling" "Sweetie" or "Cher' " ( french term for "beloved" or "friend" )

Jolie Rouge
02-19-2014, 04:02 PM
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