Jolie Rouge
02-17-2011, 12:11 PM
2 hrs 13 mins ago
PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) – A high school English teacher who was suspended from her job after she blogged that her students were "rude, disengaged, lazy whiners," said on Wednesday that she did nothing wrong.
"Some of the students, parents and administrators don't want to hear the truth," said Natalie Munroe, 30, a teacher at Central Bucks East High School north of Philadelphia.
In a blog that she said was intended to be seen only by a handful of her friends but was shared on Facebook by a student who discovered it, Munroe was highly critical of some students and school administrators.
"My students are out of control," she wrote. "They are rude, disengaged, lazy whiners. They curse, discuss drugs, talk back, argue for grades, complain about everything, fancy themselves entitled to whatever they desire and are just generally annoying."
Munroe, who is nearly nine months pregnant, was suspended with pay pending an investigation into her blog, said Carol Counihan, spokeswoman for the school district.
Steven Rovner, Munroe's lawyer, described her as a "working class hero for teachers" and said if she is fired he may file a lawsuit charging violation of her First Amendment right to free speech.
Munroe said she still wants to be a teacher.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110217/od_nm/us_teacher_blog_odd
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She's right. She did nothing wrong. Had she published a magazine or written an open letter, her free speech would not be questioned. Its on facebook so now people think they can get her in trouble. Its true that her views might get her fired, which would not be a violation of her free speech, but if someone tries to sue her for libel when she did not specify an individual or someone tries a legal route to get her to take it down, that would be a violation. Personally, I think that kids act however you expect them to act. If I went around and called my kids lazy, they would act lazy. If I said they were stupid, their grades would probably slip. I think that if she feels that way, she should find another profession for their health and hers. She is not helping those lazy little idiots by pointing it out.
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I'm seeing a lot of 'What's the matter with kids today?" comments.
But I find for the defendant. She has every right to voice her opinion, just like the kids who use much more distasteful methods to describe their teachers, parents, etc. on Facebook and other sites.
Additionally, all teachers should have the authority to kick offenders out of class if they are to fulfill their collective responsibility to the students who WANT to learn. We do a disservice to our educators by tying their hands with political bureaucracy.
Before I get off the soapbox, I want to know who the hxll's bright idea it was to tie funding to attendance? Why aren't they/we tying school funding to NEED?
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Expel them, lets see how they feel after being stuck 10 years in Burger King and then maybe they will reaslise how stupid they were. Don't want to study? Fine, just make sure my fries are fresh.
My brother is like that, he doesn't do a thing in school, he has repeated so mamy times i lost count. He doesn't even take his glasses to school so he can see, he is a idiot who is a @#$% too and spoiled. He has no respect for any one, he even threatened to trash a proposed 1K vehicle just because he feels entitled to something he wants even though we don't have the money and that he does not deserve to get what he wishes due to his pizz poor performance.
Note: I mean no disrespect to college students or hardworking fast-food workers who are making a living, only to the idiots similar to my brother and other punks.
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Imagine a scenario, if you will. You come to work and within the first hour a "student" rolls a joint in your classroom. When you try to stop it from happening the student AND their friends say, " What you gon do bout it fat cracker white boy?" Though campus police pick the student out of your class after a great deal of screaming, yelling and death threats, they are back in class the next day, no consequences whatsoever for ANY of the numerous things they have done. When later that day they vandalize your vehicle causing thousands of dollars worth of damage and are caught on camera, the district says there is nothing that can be done about it. You turn in a complaint to the sherriff, but nothing happens. Months later you discover the district had the incident buried. This is but one incident, in a list of many. Still think she is the role model for their behavior? NCLB has forced districts to keep students, no matter the quality, at all costs. $ is assigned based on attendance and the rest is fudged to make it look good. Unless we speak out and stop this, it will only get worse. Just something to consider...
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She's right but let's face it, we as a society have dropped the ball.
We have a created a society in which entitlement and victimology are the norm. Parents choose to be friends over parents. We've allowed the government to make our parenting decisions because they just know better and we don't want to make the hard decisions. We've allowed the school systems to dumb down the education because we wouldn't want to damage our children's fragile egos. We've allowed failed teachers to continue teaching because we pander to the union. We allow the media and entertainment industry to dictate how we think and what we view. We've taken religion out of any public discourse because we're afraid to offend someone who doesn't have the same view. We've allowed all manner of perversions to take place because it's ok as long as no one is hurt. Yet, personal responsibility is anathema and everything is always someone else's fault.
You reap what you sow. We need to take a look around and make some hard decisions or we will follow in Rome's footsteps and fall to ruin.
PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) – A high school English teacher who was suspended from her job after she blogged that her students were "rude, disengaged, lazy whiners," said on Wednesday that she did nothing wrong.
"Some of the students, parents and administrators don't want to hear the truth," said Natalie Munroe, 30, a teacher at Central Bucks East High School north of Philadelphia.
In a blog that she said was intended to be seen only by a handful of her friends but was shared on Facebook by a student who discovered it, Munroe was highly critical of some students and school administrators.
"My students are out of control," she wrote. "They are rude, disengaged, lazy whiners. They curse, discuss drugs, talk back, argue for grades, complain about everything, fancy themselves entitled to whatever they desire and are just generally annoying."
Munroe, who is nearly nine months pregnant, was suspended with pay pending an investigation into her blog, said Carol Counihan, spokeswoman for the school district.
Steven Rovner, Munroe's lawyer, described her as a "working class hero for teachers" and said if she is fired he may file a lawsuit charging violation of her First Amendment right to free speech.
Munroe said she still wants to be a teacher.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110217/od_nm/us_teacher_blog_odd
comments
She's right. She did nothing wrong. Had she published a magazine or written an open letter, her free speech would not be questioned. Its on facebook so now people think they can get her in trouble. Its true that her views might get her fired, which would not be a violation of her free speech, but if someone tries to sue her for libel when she did not specify an individual or someone tries a legal route to get her to take it down, that would be a violation. Personally, I think that kids act however you expect them to act. If I went around and called my kids lazy, they would act lazy. If I said they were stupid, their grades would probably slip. I think that if she feels that way, she should find another profession for their health and hers. She is not helping those lazy little idiots by pointing it out.
--
I'm seeing a lot of 'What's the matter with kids today?" comments.
But I find for the defendant. She has every right to voice her opinion, just like the kids who use much more distasteful methods to describe their teachers, parents, etc. on Facebook and other sites.
Additionally, all teachers should have the authority to kick offenders out of class if they are to fulfill their collective responsibility to the students who WANT to learn. We do a disservice to our educators by tying their hands with political bureaucracy.
Before I get off the soapbox, I want to know who the hxll's bright idea it was to tie funding to attendance? Why aren't they/we tying school funding to NEED?
----
Expel them, lets see how they feel after being stuck 10 years in Burger King and then maybe they will reaslise how stupid they were. Don't want to study? Fine, just make sure my fries are fresh.
My brother is like that, he doesn't do a thing in school, he has repeated so mamy times i lost count. He doesn't even take his glasses to school so he can see, he is a idiot who is a @#$% too and spoiled. He has no respect for any one, he even threatened to trash a proposed 1K vehicle just because he feels entitled to something he wants even though we don't have the money and that he does not deserve to get what he wishes due to his pizz poor performance.
Note: I mean no disrespect to college students or hardworking fast-food workers who are making a living, only to the idiots similar to my brother and other punks.
---
Imagine a scenario, if you will. You come to work and within the first hour a "student" rolls a joint in your classroom. When you try to stop it from happening the student AND their friends say, " What you gon do bout it fat cracker white boy?" Though campus police pick the student out of your class after a great deal of screaming, yelling and death threats, they are back in class the next day, no consequences whatsoever for ANY of the numerous things they have done. When later that day they vandalize your vehicle causing thousands of dollars worth of damage and are caught on camera, the district says there is nothing that can be done about it. You turn in a complaint to the sherriff, but nothing happens. Months later you discover the district had the incident buried. This is but one incident, in a list of many. Still think she is the role model for their behavior? NCLB has forced districts to keep students, no matter the quality, at all costs. $ is assigned based on attendance and the rest is fudged to make it look good. Unless we speak out and stop this, it will only get worse. Just something to consider...
----
She's right but let's face it, we as a society have dropped the ball.
We have a created a society in which entitlement and victimology are the norm. Parents choose to be friends over parents. We've allowed the government to make our parenting decisions because they just know better and we don't want to make the hard decisions. We've allowed the school systems to dumb down the education because we wouldn't want to damage our children's fragile egos. We've allowed failed teachers to continue teaching because we pander to the union. We allow the media and entertainment industry to dictate how we think and what we view. We've taken religion out of any public discourse because we're afraid to offend someone who doesn't have the same view. We've allowed all manner of perversions to take place because it's ok as long as no one is hurt. Yet, personal responsibility is anathema and everything is always someone else's fault.
You reap what you sow. We need to take a look around and make some hard decisions or we will follow in Rome's footsteps and fall to ruin.