So angry I'm shaking....

[littlebuggy]

Sorry, super long vent...

Ok, back in june my kids were taking our jack russel for a walk on his leash in our back yard. We have a large yard, and haven't been able to afford to put in a fence, and I don't let my dogs just run around. (We are in a VERY rural, btw) Well, my neighbors two houses down have a rottweiler, and although they do have a chain link fence, she has a history of getting out. They know this, well she gets out, runs to my yard and proceeds to attack my dog with my children right there. My daughter is 10 and my son is 8. My daughter was holding the leash, and the only reason my dog, Snickers, survived was because my dd tried to pull him out of the way so the rott was only able to attack his back half. He ended up needing surgery, $3000 worth. Well my neighbor says i'm sorry we can' afford it. We managed to get financing for his surgery and I'm glad to say he is back to 100%. I told them the dog had to go, one way or another. He took her up to his moms house, and I didn't sue for the vet bills because, well to be honest I clearly let people walk all over me. :(
So, a month after this he says that he's bringing the dog back because she is allergic to something at his mom's house. But he promises this time he'll fix the fence so she can't get out. UGH Again...let people walk all over me.
Fast forward to today, I go to get the mail, and that dog is out running around the neighborhood! They aren't home, so I put a note in their mailbox telling them that the dog needs to go now. I'm giving them a week to get her out of here or I'm calling a lawyer.

If you made it through all that thanks for listening! I just really needed to vent about this! :)

[pepperpot]

I would have been on that phone to the lawyer a long time ago.....:agree

[speedygirl]

Do you have leash laws where you live? If so, I'd call animal control. I wouldn't hesitate to call a lawyer. Their dog inflicted major injury to your dog and major financial costs to you. Too bad that they can't afford the $3000. Neither can you. Go to small claims court and let the judge set up a payment plan for them. Their animal went onto your private property, not the other way around. It could have been one of your children that got the brunt of it.
I don't blame you for being angry. Hugs

[ElleGee]

If this dog has a history of getting out then you need to call your local animal control and make reports.. Plus I wouldn't give an eff if they cannot afford it.. Call your lawyer and sue the bastages. Why should you have to pay for something you didn't do? Why even give them a week? You cannot impose stuff like that on them since you are not the law.. They don't have to listen to your letter... They were the ones breaking the law even if you live in a very rural area...

[cabby92]

Yep, go with ElleGee's words of wisdom. Make those phone calls now while you are still angry. You have given them too many chances as it is. You don't want to be here posting about one of your kids.

[leannefox]

Sorry, super long vent...

Ok, back in june my kids were taking our jack russel for a walk on his leash in our back yard. We have a large yard, and haven't been able to afford to put in a fence, and I don't let my dogs just run around. (We are in a VERY rural, btw) Well, my neighbors two houses down have a rottweiler, and although they do have a chain link fence, she has a history of getting out. They know this, well she gets out, runs to my yard and proceeds to attack my dog with my children right there. My daughter is 10 and my son is 8. My daughter was holding the leash, and the only reason my dog, Snickers, survived was because my dd tried to pull him out of the way so the rott was only able to attack his back half. He ended up needing surgery, $3000 worth. Well my neighbor says i'm sorry we can' afford it. We managed to get financing for his surgery and I'm glad to say he is back to 100%. I told them the dog had to go, one way or another. He took her up to his moms house, and I didn't sue for the vet bills because, well to be honest I clearly let people walk all over me. :(
So, a month after this he says that he's bringing the dog back because she is allergic to something at his mom's house. But he promises this time he'll fix the fence so she can't get out. UGH Again...let people walk all over me.
Fast forward to today, I go to get the mail, and that dog is out running around the neighborhood! They aren't home, so I put a note in their mailbox telling them that the dog needs to go now. I'm giving them a week to get her out of here or I'm calling a lawyer.

If you made it through all that thanks for listening! I just really needed to vent about this! :)

u know if they dont remove the dog then u do need to go and have something done about it. because maybe next time it wont be the dog it my be your kids or somone elses kids. once a dog like that has a taste for blood then it wont stop until it can get some more.

[ElleGee]

By going on your location under your av

http://www.ftthomas.org/Police/AnimalControl.html


Here's a snip


"When can Animal Control enter upon properties?
ANSWER: Once an animal has been seen running at large the violation has already occurred. Even if the dog now retreats back onto its property, it is obviously not contained. It will more than likely leave the property again. In pursuit I can enter upon the property to impound the dog.

[iluvmybaby]

I would have shot the dog for attacking my children. He could have mauled the dog and started on ur kids.

[jasmine]

I would have shot the dog for attacking my children. He could have mauled the dog and started on ur kids.

the dog attacked the dog, not the kids...

yes, living in the country is another sweet thing, if you have a gun, use it.
I would get out your vet bills, and take them to a lawyer and see about what you can do, but I would do it now, it's been almost 4 months since it happened. Get your neighbors phone number, call them every time you see their dog out, better yet, go to there house and tell them, every single time.

[Explorer 4x4'r]

make the calls; local police, sherriff, whatever....
you need to have documentation for if you need to go court (small claims; maybe judge judy)
sue for not only the vet bills but also for what your kids had to witness and for the possibility of getting mauled themselves.

[SLance68]

How far out in the country are you? If it was me that would be a dead dog - no questions asked.

[loris520]

You def need to call animal control on them. I can't believe he said he cant pay the vet bills because he does not have the money. I would have told him too friggin bad your dog did it. We have a Rottweiler and we NEVER let him roam or get out of the house without being on a leash. My dog would not hurt a fly but I would be freaked out if I seen him coming at me and I did not know him lol. Stand your ground they are in the wrong. I hope you get it resolved soon!

[justme23]

Ok, I realize ppl may disagree... but if no one can afford it... contact Judge Judy!

[Anniston]

I am so sorry that you live next to such ignorance. They have an aggressive dog who is not kept within his boundaries. (not dissing the breed, just this particular dog) That is not cool.

I know it is hard...I am the type of letting others walk all over me. But this dog is a proven danger, so I hope that this is resolved soon for you.

[SurferGirl]

So sorry that your dog was injured. Your neighbor needs to reimburse you for the vet bills and he needs to keep his dog from getting out. Just because you live in a rural area you shouldn't have to put up with a negligent pet owner.

I get upset because of some dogs that always seem to get loose while I'm walking my dog. I've had to start carrying pepper spray. I like to walk or run in the morning with my older dog and shouldn't have to change our exercise routine because of negligent pet owners.

[hblueeyes]

This rott attacked your dog (your kids were too close) and it cost you $3K and the dog is still running around. You need to have that shotgun nearby, with a lock and when the dog comes on your property, shoot it. Maybe they will understand that you cannot afford to pay their $3K vet bill as you just had to pay for their dog attack and then they will get that fence fixed.

Me

[shadowcats]

i;ve raised and bred rottys. and most of them are gentle giants , but there are those that are bred aggressive , and trained aggressive , this one is and aggressive and probley trained to be aggressive , this dog attacked yours while your kids were walking yours, well his instincts will associate their pressence to your dog , and if he smells your dog on your kids he can and will attack them , any dog that is in aggressive mode will do this, you must protect your family and pets , that dog is a danger to all , you can press charges up to six months affer an attack , tell the police when you file these charges and bring vet bills with you ,
please watch them closely that dog can be fast and very dangerous.
sharon

[sunniekiss]

I would check into his homeowners insurance. Dog bites just may be covered under their policy.

IMHO if they can't afford to take care of your vet bills then they can't afford to keep that dog.

Go to the district magistrate & file a small claims case against them.

[whatever]

How far out in the country are you? If it was me that would be a dead dog - no questions asked.

that was my thought as well!! You come into my yard and attack my kids or my dogs you ask for it. Esp. if your dog was leashed!!!!!!!!
We have had problems with a neighbors dogs in the past (supposedly harmless) and he has been told they will be shot next time. Also told the sheriff this. Keep them off my yard! I have a big yard and my dogs don't go into your yard so I don't expect yours to come into mine!
I would NOT care what his reason were for not wanting to pay. They have judments for that. Just because he says he can't afford it doesn't mean he can't. Plus if you take him to court he can either make arrangements to pay the "payments" with your vet or lump sum. Or if not next time he trys to buy or sell something UM NO LUCK. Because he has to take care of the judgement FIRST!!

[whatever]

Ok, I realize ppl may disagree... but if no one can afford it... contact Judge Judy!

Just reading this. I agree take it there. She will rip them a new one. lol

[littlebuggy]

Thanks for all the helpfull words, and encouragment. This whole thing just makes me sick, and I always try to be the person who understands that accidents happen, and sometimes things are out of our control. But it just feels like I am the one that is being inconvenienced here, and it was thier dog that did this. I know he has tried to keep the dog in, but she still finds ways out. They did pay for the initial consultation at the vet in town, but when we told them how much the surgery was going to cost said they couldn't afford that. This is all just such a headache i do not need right now.

[madie]

Everyone has great advice - I have had huge problems with my neighbor regarding our dog and one other neighbor dog (he said he had anxiety and the dogs barked) while his rott ran around the neighborhood (my neighbor actually got video of his dog peeing on her dogs kennel with her dog in it!) - Yes, you need to make sure that he pays for the vet bills, it is part of being a responsible pet owner, if he can't be responsible, he doesn't deserve to have his dog and I cannot stess enough - KEEP EVERYTHING DOCUMENTED - dates, times, exactly where and when - take pictures. You prove the dog runs free and you probably win any lawsuit that comes of it. Good luck

[benspawpaw]

hot dogs boiled in antifreeze

sometimes you just gota do what you gota do just dont get caught

[pepperpot]

hot dogs boiled in antifreeze

sometimes you just gota do what you gota do just dont get caught

Very dangerous advice IMO.

What if someone other than the intended injests this? Like a young child? OR one of her own pets? And if she did get caught, she'd go to jail. So not worth it IMO, go the legal route.

[ElleGee]

hot dogs boiled in antifreeze

sometimes you just gota do what you gota do just dont get caught

Shooting is more humane. Boiling a dog in antifreeze comes from a psychotic mind... I mean who does that shiz?

[loris520]

hot dogs boiled in antifreeze

sometimes you just gota do what you gota do just dont get caught





Why would you even suggest this??? Do you know how cruel this is? The dog will suffer a long time before it dies... :stupid:

[Licchl05]

hot dogs boiled in antifreeze

sometimes you just gota do what you gota do just dont get caught

You got jokes, don't you? First you advise me to go slam my breaks on my car so i get in an accident in my 'morons on the roads' thread now you tell this person to poison a dog???

You my friend are in need of some help ;)

[pepperpot]

You got jokes, don't you? First you advise me to go slam my breaks on my car so i get in an accident in my 'morons on the roads' thread now you tell this person to poison a dog???

You my friend are in need of some help ;)


those behind you dont matter

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next time someone behind you blows at you cause they think you are not moving fast enough, start to move quick then slam on the brakes. but only if you are alone with no kids in the car. when they hit you just sit there and dont move. it is their fault cause they hit you. so make the call to 911 have an ambulance take you to the hospital to get checked head to toe. tell them you hurt everywhere so it cost the other persons ins a ton. his rates will go thru the roof if he doesnt get dropped. they will think next time about blowing the horn.
I truly hope you are just a troll :stir otherwise......what comes to mind is 'bottom feeder'......you cannot be serious.

[jasmine]

well, being... this is only his 3rd post. EDITED.

[Anig2u]

Sorry, super long vent...

Ok, back in june my kids were taking our jack russel for a walk on his leash in our back yard. We have a large yard, and haven't been able to afford to put in a fence, and I don't let my dogs just run around. (We are in a VERY rural, btw) Well, my neighbors two houses down have a rottweiler, and although they do have a chain link fence, she has a history of getting out. They know this, well she gets out, runs to my yard and proceeds to attack my dog with my children right there. My daughter is 10 and my son is 8. My daughter was holding the leash, and the only reason my dog, Snickers, survived was because my dd tried to pull him out of the way so the rott was only able to attack his back half. He ended up needing surgery, $3000 worth. Well my neighbor says i'm sorry we can' afford it. We managed to get financing for his surgery and I'm glad to say he is back to 100%. I told them the dog had to go, one way or another. He took her up to his moms house, and I didn't sue for the vet bills because, well to be honest I clearly let people walk all over me. :(
So, a month after this he says that he's bringing the dog back because she is allergic to something at his mom's house. But he promises this time he'll fix the fence so she can't get out. UGH Again...let people walk all over me.
Fast forward to today, I go to get the mail, and that dog is out running around the neighborhood! They aren't home, so I put a note in their mailbox telling them that the dog needs to go now. I'm giving them a week to get her out of here or I'm calling a lawyer.

If you made it through all that thanks for listening! I just really needed to vent about this! :)

I am seriously pissed right now, but not just at the idiot with the vicious dog, but the OP!! How could you not report this dog??????????? What if it was one of your kids he attacked and you know it very well could have been!! This dog should be put to sleep immediately!! I feel sick just knowing that dog could come back again and your children could be the ones attacked and not your precious dog...sorry but this is really getting to me. It is your responsibility to report this dog, because if and when he attacks again it will be on your shoulders if he gets another dog or worse a child.:getyou

[littlebuggy]

There had never been issues with this dog before, and the day it happened I told him the dog needed to go away. He sent the dog that day up to his moms house, who has no children or other animals. It was a surprise to me when he felt it was ok to bring it back.

Ok, I need some advice now. I am wanting now to go to court, get my money for the bills, and get the dog gone. What would be the best way to do that? I don't have money for a lawyer outright, and I know there are some who won't charge you until you get your money, but I've had a few friends go through divorces in the last few years and have seen how crazy expensive lawyers are. I don't want to go to court only to inccure tons of lawyer and court fees. Is there a better way to do it?

[hblueeyes]

I would file a small claims suit. The max is $5K depending on your state some are as low as $3500. You need to pay a filing fee not usually over $50 which can be included in your damages. All judges do not allow for the filing claim though most do. Small claims court is designed for just this type of suit. Lawyers are not allowed in court unless they are the plaintiff or the defendant or have direct testimony.

The dog will not be forced out. Most states allow a dog one incident only and if this was his first then you might be out of luck. However, they judge may impose on them the need to put up a fence ot teether the dog or have an adult out with the dog.

Good luck

Me

[justme23]

I'm tellin ya... if it was me, I'd see about getting it set up on Judge Judy. If you have ever watched her show... she HATES "big dogs", so you're pretty much guaranteed a win if you have all the proper paper work. The only thing she would be upset about is how long it took you to file... but you can explain that just by the fact that he sent the dog away.

I know ppl think it's silly... but hey, just cause it's on tv doesn't mean you won't get the justice you deserve.

[Anniston]

I'm tellin ya... if it was me, I'd see about getting it set up on Judge Judy. If you have ever watched her show... she HATES "big dogs", so you're pretty much guaranteed a win if you have all the proper paper work. The only thing she would be upset about is how long it took you to file... but you can explain that just by the fact that he sent the dog away.

I know ppl think it's silly... but hey, just cause it's on tv doesn't mean you won't get the justice you deserve.

It is not a silly idea, but would she have to pay her own transportation to get there? I looked on the site, and there is just a simple submission form and then someone contacts you. I think that the situations in this case would be right up production's alley.

[justme23]

It is not a silly idea, but would she have to pay her own transportation to get there? I looked on the site, and there is just a simple submission form and then someone contacts you. I think that the situations in this case would be right up production's alley.

You know, I wouldn't have a clue... I guess the only way to find out would be to submit your information and find out.

[Bahet]

Actually I believe on court shows like Judge Judy they not only fly you out but they put you up in a hotel and pay you as well. If not then claim legal expenses and deduct it on your taxes.

[littlebuggy]

Thanks everyone for your help. Judge Judy would be interesting, but I am so not a tv type person. I agree though, I think she would have a field day with this one. I think I'm going to try the small claims court. I can handle $50, especially if I can get back the money for the vet bills. I really hate to have to be going through this. I always try to be one of those people that tries to understand that things happen beyond our control, and if he would never have brought the dog back that would have been the end of it. But for him to just say, well I have no other option but for her to live here is just him taking advantage of me and the type of person that I am, and that just pisses me off.

[MERE CHAT]

You should have called your local police and/or animal control immeditately!! Thank God your dog is okay now but it could have been your kids too. And $3000 is a lot to pay because of your irresponsible neighbors. I don't know what good it would do trying to sue them at this point since you didn't call the proper authorities to begin with, but I wish you the best!

[Anig2u]

There had never been issues with this dog before, and the day it happened I told him the dog needed to go away. He sent the dog that day up to his moms house, who has no children or other animals. It was a surprise to me when he felt it was ok to bring it back.

Ok, I need some advice now. I am wanting now to go to court, get my money for the bills, and get the dog gone. What would be the best way to do that? I don't have money for a lawyer outright, and I know there are some who won't charge you until you get your money, but I've had a few friends go through divorces in the last few years and have seen how crazy expensive lawyers are. I don't want to go to court only to inccure tons of lawyer and court fees. Is there a better way to do it?

You missed my whole point entirely. You say this is the first time this dog has attacked, so you didn't want to do anything. The guy says the dog is going away so there again you say why do anything. Either way you need to report this dog, so if and when this happens again there can be repercussions for this dog and it's owner. The next time this dog attacks it could be a person, like a child and it could be worse than just injuries, it could mean a death. Hopefully you will report this dog before the time limit is up. You should have called animal control and reported this to begin with and then decide how to go about getting your money back for the damages. I can't believe your actually more concerned about getting your money back than actually maybe preventing this dog from hurting again, or killing. It would only cost you the court costs, which are not that much, and more than likely since you were in your own yard when this happened the defendant would be found guilty. Get off your duff and report this dog before he kills one of your damn kids.

[littlebuggy]

I don't know why you feel the need to be so rude to me about this. I wasn't the only one who didn't report this. They were at the original vets office with me, had to give me a ride there actually because my husband was at work and had to meet us there, paid the first vet bill and told the nurses and doctors what happened. They all knew the dog because this is the vet where that dog normally went. They didn't report it either.
And yes I didn't report it when he sent it away because the problem would be gone. This dog had stayed with his mother numerous times, and to my knowledge there were never any issues.
Thank you for assuming I'm only in this for the money, but you are wrong. I know that when this goes to court the dog will most likely be delt with. So, that is not another issue to me since it will all come out. I did say, maybe you missed it, that I do want my money back, but I also want something done about the dog. If money was all that I cared about I would have taken them to court straight away, even though he was getting rid of the dog.
Again thanks so much for being compassionate and bringing up the possible danger to my kids in such a rude way. If all you were going to do was berate me, you could have just passed my post by.

[Anig2u]

I would think the vet would have a legal and moral responsibility to report this attack as well. Oh well, not everyone does the right thing right. Sorry you think I am berating you but you are the one that is hemming and hawing about how to go about getting your money back instead of actually reporting the attack. My first concern would be the safety of my children as well as others. Just because the dog was staying with the owners mother does not mean he wouldn't be able to attack again either, so problem not solved. Please just report the dog, at least do your part in protecting the other people in your area as well as your own.

[ahippiechic]

I don't know why you feel the need to be so rude to me about this. I wasn't the only one who didn't report this. They were at the original vets office with me, had to give me a ride there actually because my husband was at work and had to meet us there, paid the first vet bill and told the nurses and doctors what happened. They all knew the dog because this is the vet where that dog normally went. They didn't report it either.
And yes I didn't report it when he sent it away because the problem would be gone. This dog had stayed with his mother numerous times, and to my knowledge there were never any issues.
Thank you for assuming I'm only in this for the money, but you are wrong. I know that when this goes to court the dog will most likely be delt with. So, that is not another issue to me since it will all come out. I did say, maybe you missed it, that I do want my money back, but I also want something done about the dog. If money was all that I cared about I would have taken them to court straight away, even though he was getting rid of the dog.
Again thanks so much for being compassionate and bringing up the possible danger to my kids in such a rude way. If all you were going to do was berate me, you could have just passed my post by.

You mean the problem for you would be gone. The dog is still a problem and should have been reported right away, whether they helped with any bills or not. For the safety of other dogs and people. The dog has shown to be aggressive and that needed to be documented.

[msmom79]

you need to call your local sherriffs office right now,and report this dog,then you need to get documentation from your vet,also if you didnt take pics of the bites that happened to your puppy,you need to at least take pics of the scars,all can be used as proof for your case,you need to document the days at the vet,and all check ups,any meds the puppy was on,and how long,anything you had to do to help your puppy survive,should be documented


please call the police now,this dog could kill next time,as stated by another post here,once they get the taste of blood,they will attack agian.
good luck to you

[Angibaby26]

Hi, I don't think that person meant to be rude. I do agree with him though, thankfully your dog made it and is doing awesome now, but you see so many on Judge shows that the dog doesn't make it and it is very sad. It isn't a matter of it the dog is going to attack, it is a matter of when because obviously this dog is aggressive and the dog can't help it if that is the way the dog was raised but the other dogs, pets, children and even adults should be afraid of being attacked. Definitely listen to everyone else and call a lawyer and call to get the dog taken away. They obviously don't care at all because if they did, they would come to check on your dog and they would make some kind of effort to pay you back even a little bit at a time. Good luck and keep us informed. I'm glad your dog is good now :o)