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kmtsn
08-22-2009, 11:00 AM
Ok I have googled it and just dont seem to be the right answers darling daughter says anyway PLEASE no bashing me today for asking to be lead in the right direction. please ok my DD has American history maps anyway she brought home a paper with questions like this 1. Which region,near the Great Lakes,covers the smallest land area? 2. Which region,in the interior part of the country, covers the largest land area? there is 8 altogether I don't want the answers please just tell us where we can find them. thank you

tngirl
08-22-2009, 11:09 AM
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/us.htm

I don't know if this will help. If the questions are as you wrote them then they are pretty general. Regions? That could be about anything.

LitWtch
08-22-2009, 11:20 AM
Here's another link to check out:

http://usa.usembassy.de/travel-regions.htm

janelle
08-22-2009, 11:30 AM
I always to go ask.com when I have a question. I put in your second question and it took me to Guyana so had to add in the USA. I like www.ask.com It's easy to use and gives you an answer quickly.

Whoops that may have given you the answer but at least you can check your dots homework. LOL

loris520
08-22-2009, 11:46 AM
Look at the Maps she brought home.

kmtsn
08-22-2009, 03:24 PM
Thanks for the help, and the map she brought home was of no use

loris520
08-22-2009, 06:07 PM
It's going to be a long school year...

DrGrin
08-22-2009, 06:53 PM
Ok I have googled it and just dont seem to be the right answers darling daughter says anyway PLEASE no bashing me today for asking to be lead in the right direction. please ok my DD has American history maps anyway she brought home a paper with questions like this 1. Which region,near the Great Lakes,covers the smallest land area? 2. Which region,in the interior part of the country, covers the largest land area? there is 8 altogether I don't want the answers please just tell us where we can find them. thank you

I hope you don't consider this bashing, but I have to be honest with you. You are not going to be doing your child any favors by going to google to find answers to homework assignments. The whole point of a child's homework is for the child to use the maps and their own reasoning skills to come up with the answers. If they sent home maps, and a paper with questions she should easily be able to use those maps to get those answers. If not, you need to call the child's teacher and ask questions. I'm sure they have help available if your child needs it. I've seen numerous posts from you in the past asking homework questions on here. If your child has that much trouble finding the answers to homework assignments, maybe you need to check with the school to see if they have peer tutoring available for help with assignments. Please, for the sake of your child's education- get the child help and stop trying to make them dependant on google for answers. You truly aren't helping your child. :(

kmtsn
08-22-2009, 07:22 PM
I will not post on here again I cannot believe this

gmyers
08-22-2009, 07:48 PM
At least she's trying to help her daughter with her homework. A lot of parents don't even try to help their kids. Everybody needs help sometimes.

cSoReNSoN
08-22-2009, 08:08 PM
The internet wasn't as widely used as it is now when I was in school (84-97), so I did homework the old fashioned way: with the materials provided by the teacher(s) and my brain.

speedygirl
08-22-2009, 08:12 PM
At least she's trying to help her daughter with her homework. A lot of parents don't even try to help their kids. Everybody needs help sometimes.

I think her intentions are good but DrGrin is giving very sound advice. Part of a child's learning is based on the search, identification, reasoning and the satisfaction of accomplishiment. Lot's of kids Google for answers, get them but then don't know the how, why and where...
If I googled for an answer to a math problem and got it but didn't know how the answer was reached, I wouldn't learn anything.

ETA Google is a good tool to use as a means to the end, not to just get to the end with no real work.

pepperpot
08-22-2009, 08:13 PM
My son had a packet of science work given to him for over the summer. No book to reference......teachers do not always provide the materials to research and do the work at home. They expect them to research using the internet at home. It's a different world now. However, I agree they should learn the 'old fashioned' way of looking it up in a book, but that's not always possible. :shrug

fleabones3
08-22-2009, 08:33 PM
I agree with pepperpot. My kids werent even ALLOWED to bring some of the texts books HOME, because they didnt have enough for everyone in the grade, so they brought home a paper, pencil and expected to do the work. They would come to me for help and i am like wheres the book? well there was no book so how in the hell was I supposed to help??? Also some of the " maps" the kids bring home arent clear enough to tell you nothing. She didnt want the answers, just a site to go to that would be more of help, such as better maps. People dont always need to have their ass jumped for asking a question. You dont want to answer,then dont. jeez

tngirl
08-22-2009, 08:40 PM
I will admit, I am one of those that is driven crazy by all the homework help threads. But, there are some that are reasonable and I believe this one was. The OP was asking for help in general and not the answers to the questions. There is a difference you know.

speedygirl
08-22-2009, 08:45 PM
I think a good learning thing for the OP and her child is do the search together and learn to find the answers through trial and error. No jumping her ass from me but I do think that she was offered some good advice without anyone being mean.

DrGrin
08-22-2009, 08:51 PM
My intention wasn't to be mean.

I was just suggesting that if the child didn't have what they needed to complete the assignment without the parent having to ask for help online, that there needs to be some communication with the teacher. Basic map reading skills are necessary. One might actually be dependant on a paper map sometime in life, and google might not be available to check for an answer. ;) If the maps aren't readable so that the student can't get the answers from them, the teacher needs to fix the problem. If there aren't enough textbooks to go around in a classroom, again, I'd be at the school pitching a fit. Our tax dollars support the public school system. The school should be providing enough books for every student. Not every student has internet access at home to visit google. :)

gmyers
08-22-2009, 09:20 PM
I think she's doing the right thing, if she couldn't find the answers on the map provided try to find a better one on the internet. Once she finds it then her daughter can get the answers to the questions from it. I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

hotwheelstx
08-22-2009, 10:44 PM
I think she's doing the right thing, if she couldn't find the answers on the map provided try to find a better one on the internet. Once she finds it then her daughter can get the answers to the questions from it. I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

ITA. I think the op isn't asking for the answer...just where to look or a good reference to find the answer. We didn't have computers while I was going to school 69-82.

I would suggest if you can't find a good map online to find the answer is there a possibility for your child to go to school earlier go to the school library and find the answer?

While I was growing up we didn't always have enough books for everyone. If I couldn't find the answer on my own my mother would send me to school earlier so I could go to the school library, find the answers that I needed. I see no reason to "slam" anyone for asking. I would also ask the teacher if he/she could recommend sites to go to to help find the answers....it's not giving your child the answers directly. He/she would still have to look it up and find on their own.

Also, if you have a public library I would go there. I did that a lot growing up, too.

Good luck.

BeanieLuvR
08-22-2009, 11:13 PM
I honestly have to say I feel sorry for kids who don't have computers. My son's school assigns a lot of work that involves using the internet. They even have a list of sites on the school's website to look for help. I did ask for help here last year on one of his experiments. The science teachers at school did not know how to calculate the answer and I couldn't find the answer online. I really appreciated those who tried to help. He got to present his experiment to the school board. :) I really don't think there was anything wrong with kmtsn asking for a place to find a map to help her daughter. My son has had to get our atlas out before because the maps they gave were so hard to read. I tell my kids that atlas was one of the best investments we made. They have both used it numerous times.

Quaker_Parrots
08-23-2009, 02:04 AM
My children's school is one that text books dont go home. I asked last year for help on how to do one of his math problems so I could show him and he could complete the sheet on his own. I found everyone here was very helpful, and no one bashed me.

That being said, I hope you were able to help your child find the answers to her homework. Worksheets when they come home dont always have a clear answer and I would definately communicate the problem to the teacher.

DrGrin
08-23-2009, 07:39 AM
My children's school is one that text books dont go home. I asked last year for help on how to do one of his math problems so I could show him and he could complete the sheet on his own. I found everyone here was very helpful, and no one bashed me.

That being said, I hope you were able to help your child find the answers to her homework. Worksheets when they come home dont always have a clear answer and I would definately communicate the problem to the teacher.

So they give the child access to the book in the classroom only? That's sad. What if one needs extra study time or to catch up on reading from a missed assignment from an absence to keep from falling behind? Are they expected to stay late after school to do the work or what? I'm just curious. I've never heard of a school not issuing textbooks to each student so that they have them to take home to use.

pepperpot
08-23-2009, 07:52 AM
So they give the child access to the book in the classroom only? That's sad. What if one needs extra study time or to catch up on reading from a missed assignment from an absence to keep from falling behind? Are they expected to stay late after school to do the work or what? I'm just curious. I've never heard of a school not issuing textbooks to each student so that they have them to take home to use.

Yes, it happens.....

Renrut
08-23-2009, 08:23 AM
My son is also not allowed to bring books home. Half of his stuff I don't have a clue on how to do. If I can't understand it, how the heck am I supposed to help him understand it? I don't think the op was wrong at all. I thankfully have a brother that is mega smart. One of those kids that never had to study for tests lol.

unimom4
08-23-2009, 09:00 AM
Here in Jr High High School my kids are Required to have calculaters for homework in math. A few of the High School teachers post words on the school website under thier name that the kids have to get off there and write definitions. We are fortunate to have internet but I know some do not. So I dont think asking for help with sites is wrong.

loris520
08-23-2009, 09:19 AM
I agree that asking for help and using the internet as a tool is not a problem. I just think that it asking over and over again is kind of silly IMO... I would def call and schedule a meeting with my childs teacher if I had to ask homework questions All the time!

fleabones3
08-23-2009, 09:33 AM
I would also like to add that since we were kids, schoolwork has changed ALOT. They do phonics, the shirley method ( whatever the hell that is) and a bunch of other things WE have never even seen, so its not quite so easy to always help them. Even with a book we still might not understand so asking for help so we can help our kids should not cause a bashing. I seriously cant help my kids with math past multiplying. Sorry but i have a learning disability where math is concerned. I CANT help my kids in it. The way the diagram a sentence in english is completely different too with check marks, lines, numbers... totally dumb.
Also some members of this board may have LD problems, or didnt go all the way thru school, so asking for help so they can help their kid maybe the only solution someone has. Sometimes members here need to think before speaking. Not everyone has the same life style, same school system, etc.

gmyers
08-23-2009, 10:03 AM
Some of the stuff kids are taught now I wouldn't be able to help them with. I like math but I'm not good at algebra or geometry or any higher maths.

loris520
08-23-2009, 10:11 AM
OK I will just get straight to the point. This is not about just homework its everything else the OP asks about. I mean most of it's common sense if you ask me. Go ahead look at some of the OP's other questions. I don't think any of it has to do with learning disabilties. Just lack of good old common sense.

gmyers
08-23-2009, 10:44 AM
OK I will just get straight to the point. This is not about just homework its everything else the OP asks about. I mean most of it's common sense if you ask me. Go ahead look at some of the OP's other questions. I don't think any of it has to do with learning disabilties. Just lack of good old common sense.

I really don't see the need to check someones other posts. Or to make them feel like dirt either. She's not hurting anyone by asking for help. If you don't want to help then don't but why try to make her feel stupid for doing it. And if you ask me she's not the one looking bad here either.

evrita
08-23-2009, 11:47 AM
So they give the child access to the book in the classroom only? That's sad. What if one needs extra study time or to catch up on reading from a missed assignment from an absence to keep from falling behind? Are they expected to stay late after school to do the work or what? I'm just curious. I've never heard of a school not issuing textbooks to each student so that they have them to take home to use.

I will try to answer that from a parent of a child who isnt allowed to bring home books and yes I pitched a fit with the taxes I pay!! They hand them a single piece of paper with the problems on it and if you dont get it tough you can see the teacher after class on certain days of the week. If they are falling behind same thing and yes they are expected to maintain a C average.

We have many sites bookmarked for math and we used google and i say we because I help my DD if she cant find the right one and send it to her via messenger.

She was given an assigment to do over the summer no books or anything and I will post it so you can see I got this from her teacher Via email

The first project:
Create a poster that explains in great detail each of the plate boundary types (convergent, divergent, transform). Describe what is occurring at each boundary type. Describe the landform results of each boundary. For example, at certain divergent boundaries, an underwater mountain range forms called a ridge. Describe an example of each boundary type on Earth. Explain how the plates move (convection currents in the mantle). How does the convection current form, what is a convection current, and where is the convection current? Explain the process of subduction. What is subduction, where and when does it occur, and what is the importance of subduction? The written information on the poster should be typed. The poster must contain diagrams of each boundary, convection currents, and subduction. These diagrams must contain the appropriate labeled parts. The poster must contain pictures illustrating resulting landform from the boundary types. For example, a picture of the Himalayan mountains would be an example of the convergent boundary.
This project must be very neat and organized. This should be completed with the quality that you would be proud to present this to the President of the United States.


the second project:
Write a minimum of a 2 page report describing the Big Bang theory of the universe. (What is the big bang theory? What does the theory suggest? What evidence do scientist use to help support the theory?) Explain how Red Shift is used as one piece of evidence to support the Big Bang Theory. (What is red shift? Explain how a yellow star could appear red based on this phenomena.) You must use at least 5 sources, and wikipedia does not count as a source. The paper must be typed, doubled spaced, and contain a detailed reference list of your 5 references

gmyers
08-23-2009, 12:10 PM
Thats a lot of stuff for a kid to do and without having a book to help them out too.

unimom4
08-23-2009, 12:12 PM
Im not sure how to use the quote but this in response to evritas post. This is for the summer? omg I didnt know they assigned work over the summer. My kids get new teachers each year. does your dd have the same teachers? Just asking since I know its not the same everywhere.

prcsanglas
08-23-2009, 12:47 PM
I will try to answer that from a parent of a child who isnt allowed to bring home books and yes I pitched a fit with the taxes I pay!! They hand them a single piece of paper with the problems on it and if you dont get it tough you can see the teacher after class on certain days of the week. If they are falling behind same thing and yes they are expected to maintain a C average.

We have many sites bookmarked for math and we used google and i say we because I help my DD if she cant find the right one and send it to her via messenger.

She was given an assigment to do over the summer no books or anything and I will post it so you can see I got this from her teacher Via email

The first project:
Create a poster that explains in great detail each of the plate boundary types (convergent, divergent, transform). Describe what is occurring at each boundary type. Describe the landform results of each boundary. For example, at certain divergent boundaries, an underwater mountain range forms called a ridge. Describe an example of each boundary type on Earth. Explain how the plates move (convection currents in the mantle). How does the convection current form, what is a convection current, and where is the convection current? Explain the process of subduction. What is subduction, where and when does it occur, and what is the importance of subduction? The written information on the poster should be typed. The poster must contain diagrams of each boundary, convection currents, and subduction. These diagrams must contain the appropriate labeled parts. The poster must contain pictures illustrating resulting landform from the boundary types. For example, a picture of the Himalayan mountains would be an example of the convergent boundary.
This project must be very neat and organized. This should be completed with the quality that you would be proud to present this to the President of the United States.


the second project:
Write a minimum of a 2 page report describing the Big Bang theory of the universe. (What is the big bang theory? What does the theory suggest? What evidence do scientist use to help support the theory?) Explain how Red Shift is used as one piece of evidence to support the Big Bang Theory. (What is red shift? Explain how a yellow star could appear red based on this phenomena.) You must use at least 5 sources, and wikipedia does not count as a source. The paper must be typed, doubled spaced, and contain a detailed reference list of your 5 references

Whatever happened to summer is for the kids. No schoolwork. 2nd... alot of people don't have the internet at home and this teacher emailed you the assignment. What about the kids who don't have internet? I'm sorry your daughter had to do all this over the summer. I feel it takes away from them being a kid.

fleabones3
08-23-2009, 12:51 PM
My kids dont have work over the summer. That is ridiculous. Why should they be doing schoolwork on their SUMMER BREAK?????? and be graded for it? thats crap. If they want them doing school work then it should be DURING SCHOOL year..

and i agree with gmeyers.. one should not bring up other's posts. If you dont like someone, or their posts,or what they usually post about, then dont read them at all. simple fix

evrita
08-23-2009, 01:25 PM
To answer this yes they do and not just one subject but for Math they are sent home with about 75 pages to do in the summer. They dont have the same teacher every year it is expected to be handed in on the first day back.

fleabones3
08-23-2009, 01:30 PM
Thats bull crap! and what about the kids who dont have internet access? Or parents without cars to take them to the library? at our public library you can only be on the puter for 1 or 2 hours at a time and there is a waiting list.

loris520
08-23-2009, 01:45 PM
Ok, I did not have to look at her older posts. I remember them in my head... but anyways. If I posted a bunch of nonsense I know you nice ladies would jump all over me.
Im just saying...

gmyers
08-23-2009, 01:51 PM
Some of us don't see what she posted as nonsense. We all ask for help at one time or another here.

Mini
08-23-2009, 02:04 PM
I can see both sides to everyones arguments about the original post. Yes everyone needs help from time to time but when I was in school I was taught to find the answer myself if I couldnt then to ask for help. When your not in school to get the teachers help and your parents cant help you(lets face it its not the same stuff anymore) then you have to get help from somewhere. Just because you have the materials to work with doesnt mean you fully understand what youre doing and it doesnt mean your stupid. AND also...just because Google is popular doesnt mean its the answer the teachers are wanting

However there was a time before computers so what did people do back then? I remember what I did. When I couldnt get help from anyone I tried my best and guessed to the best of my ability and if I was wrong I learned from it. :shrug

BeanieLuvR
08-23-2009, 02:04 PM
My kids dont have work over the summer. That is ridiculous. Why should they be doing schoolwork on their SUMMER BREAK?????? and be graded for it? thats crap. If they want them doing school work then it should be DURING SCHOOL year..

and i agree with gmeyers.. one should not bring up other's posts. If you dont like someone, or their posts,or what they usually post about, then dont read them at all. simple fix

My son had to read 3 assigned books and do 3 lengthy book reports on them including chapter summaries,characterizatios,settings and other things. He also had to do a science packet. They are all due the first day of class and they are all graded and count in the semester grade. He is going in the 10th grade. I am not happy about it but it is a requirement of the school. He also had to email back and forth with one of his teachers. I am so thankful we have internet. I really do feel so bad for kids that don't. Our library only lets a person use the internet for 30 minutes a day and there is a list for it too. When his school assigns research projects they rely heavily on the kid having interent access. There are nights my son is on it for hours finding sources and information.

Isn't there still a way for people to block a poster if they don't want to read their posts? That would solve the problem of not liking to read someone's questions. I myself never mind answering a question if I know the answer.

Freebeemom
08-23-2009, 04:47 PM
I also can see both sides of the story here, but WHERE in real life do you really get 3 months off to absolutely nothing. If you ask me, that is the sad part of society. No wonder the "average" person has no common sense. People do need to figure out things on their own. I would think that the OP didn't mean to start a whole debate about the philosphy of a parent asking a homework question for their child....BUT being that she did...I would personally ask the teacher or the student what they were expected to use as a source or to see the full extent of the assignment. There has to be more to this other than just one question.
That being said, If year round school were in my area, I would take it. Too many children cause problems by teh end of the school year. Too many kids get "bored" and end up experiencing things at a very early age. Too many children's parents defend them even if they did something wrong....or if they are too lazy to do it themselves....this question is an example. I would agree that the OP isn't doing anyone a favor by doing the work for the child. Send them to a library...have them learn how to figure this out on their own.

pepperpot
08-23-2009, 05:11 PM
See what a slow day on the board will do? :rolling:

Quaker_Parrots
08-23-2009, 06:52 PM
My state is one where they school has to supply all of the other supplies too. It is illegal for them to require a student to supply their own pencils notebooks, ect.

They do provide a wish list for each class, most parent do fill the list withing reason(I will never buy specific scented markers again so the whole class can share, to the tune of like $12 for an 8 pack) but I will furnish reasonable requests.

They dont allow text books to go home. They send worksheets instead, or at least at the elementary level they do. I will find out this year if it is the same in Middle school.

What is really sad is that we have state lottery that is suppose to go for education. The only thing I can see it going for is lining the politicians pockets, and making the roads better leading to our Governors property within the state.


So they give the child access to the book in the classroom only? That's sad. What if one needs extra study time or to catch up on reading from a missed assignment from an absence to keep from falling behind? Are they expected to stay late after school to do the work or what? I'm just curious. I've never heard of a school not issuing textbooks to each student so that they have them to take home to use.

evrita
08-23-2009, 07:03 PM
Ok, I did not have to look at her older posts. I remember them in my head... but anyways. If I posted a bunch of nonsense I know you nice ladies would jump all over me.
Im just saying...

I am not jumping I know her post in the past have ben help my DD do her homework. I am just saying sometimes a computer is vital. I was using my DD as an example. I know in the past I have posted a math website for her to use like 3 times and she still came back asking for help on the same thing

fleabones3
08-23-2009, 11:30 PM
I am not jumping I know her post in the past have ben help my DD do her homework. I am just saying sometimes a computer is vital. I was using my DD as an example. I know in the past I have posted a math website for her to use like 3 times and she still came back asking for help on the same thing

Maybe its not giving her enough info that she needs to understand it..who knows?


My state we have to supply everything.. and I do mean EVERYTHING. I dont mind suppyling MY kids with pencils, folders etc.. but I do mind when the school expects me to supply the teachers with Expo markers ( and they request the real EXPO not the cheapies) sandwich baggies, germX, copier paper) and lets not forget the 5 dollar planner my kids never used.

gmyers
08-24-2009, 02:31 AM
Maybe its not giving her enough info that she needs to understand it..who knows?


My state we have to supply everything.. and I do mean EVERYTHING. I dont mind suppyling MY kids with pencils, folders etc.. but I do mind when the school expects me to supply the teachers with Expo markers ( and they request the real EXPO not the cheapies) sandwich baggies, germX, copier paper) and lets not forget the 5 dollar planner my kids never used.

Thats not right, you shouldn't have to buy the teacher stuff. She should buy it herself or the school should supply it.

fleabones3
08-24-2009, 04:55 PM
Exactly.. I DONT buy them , the copier paper or the germx. We also have to supply kleenex too. This is the first year I bought sandwich baggies..They hit us all year long with money for this money for that.. they charge us to get into our own kids sport events, school choir , etc.

gordo24
08-24-2009, 08:27 PM
WOW! i can't believe that kids can't bring their text books home!! sure i'm old, and my boy's are (and would be) in their early 30"s, but they also had to bring books home from school. taking no sides here, but i wish i didn't have to lug 5 or 6 books home from school almost every nite before back-pack's were even heard of, let alone the internet. boy, times have changed!

justme23
08-24-2009, 10:20 PM
We live in a good district I guess. They bring books home at the beginning of the year and keep them home all year. Then they have a set at school to use as well. In another district they don't get to bring books home and they aren't allowed the use of lockers, so they lug everything (except books) around.

pepperpot
08-25-2009, 07:58 AM
Yup, my kids have very small desks at school and mostly lug around around all their books......:headshake

Some books they use, however, cannot be brought home (I guess they share them with other classes). :shrug

Don't get me started on paper towels, soap, kleenex and post it notes, etc. :mad:

Jenefer3
08-25-2009, 09:13 AM
Yup, my kids have very small desks at school and mostly lug around around all their books......:headshake

Some books they use, however, cannot be brought home (I guess they share them with other classes). :shrug

Don't get me started on paper towels, soap, kleenex and post it notes, etc. :mad:

Between my son and youngest daughter, they're supposed to have 6 boxes of Kleenex. For my daughter, it's mandatory. If she doesn't have it for that first day of school, then she gets 0/10 pts (yep, it's part of the grade).

Where I live, different schools have different lists, which seems so weird to me. One year, I had bought my kids all their school supplies and then we switched schools (same city, we just moved to a different area) and we didn't need half of the stuff I had already bought but I had to go buy other things.

This year, I had to buy my son post-it notes, index cards, kleenex, boxes of crackers (he's in 5th grade?), and bottled water. I don't really mind it, I know that there's budget cuts and if it helps out, I'm okay with it.