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galeane29
08-15-2009, 07:33 AM
http://rochesterhomepage.net/content/video/?watch=1&cid=111601

Criticism is intensifying over the state's program that deposited $200 into welfare accounts. The money was supposed to be used by parents to buy school supplies.

Monroe County's Executive has come out swinging, saying it's causing huge problems because county offices are being overwhelmed. Maggie Brooks is also convinced there's fraud. Brooks called the abuse some of the worse she has ever seen. She says it's rampant, and that welfare recipients bought TV's and video games with money that's supposed to be used for school supplies.

"This government spending is nothing short of a classic example of frivolous spending that goes unchecked in Albany," said Brooks.

The state's fatal error, she says, is that there's no way for them to track where the mostly federal money is spent. It's on a debit card, and she says more than a few retailers have called their offices complaining that the money is being spent on flat screen TV's and video games.

"Handing out cash with no strings attached is the absolute wrong way to promote education," said Brooks, who adds the state would've been better off with a voucher system.

One of our area's voices in Washington agrees. Rep. Eric Massa voted for the stimulus package that this money was part of, but he says the state messed up in not installing safeguards to ensure the money was spent on children.

"It's a matter of accountability and ensuring that's what's happening with the funding. You and I both know that where there's crevasses, the water will go through those crevasses," said Massa.

The governor's office staunchly defends the program. A senior Paterson assistant admits there's probably some misuse, but many are using the money for the intended purpose.

"We have as many examples of families using the dollars for school clothes, school uniforms, school supplies," said a representative of Paterson.

Further, the governor's office points out that 70% of the money went to working families.

"The issue is not, "is it money well intended to go to school supplies." Are there families that benefitted from this? Certainly. But there are also people out there who are abusing the system. There were better ways," said Brooks.

The county says they can't prosecute any of this so-called fraud until the governor's office declares their program fraud. That seems highly unlikely, as the governor has continued to defend the program even in the face of mounting criticism.

To be clear, we have interviewed both people who spent the money on the right things, and people who say it wasn't.



I have always had a problem with the 'hand outs'. Did nobody learn from the Katrina incidents? They gave all those people debit cards and many were spending it on booze and electronics.

Give one a fish they eat for a day
Teach one to fish they eat for a lifetime

Hand outs are always a bad idea and history proves what the people will do, come back with their hands held out instead of getting up off of their butts and dusting off their backside and finding a way to make it. I have, many times.

And, who the heck needs $200 for school supplies? I never spent more than $20 on each kid per school year.

freeby4me
08-15-2009, 07:43 AM
Wow thats insane, though I cant say Im surprised.

SLance68
08-15-2009, 08:19 AM
Why didn't they do something that would cost less money and be more efficient. BUY the damn supplies and have them at school for each student. Oh wait I forgot this is a government hand out we couldn't possibly put restrictions on what OUR money is spent on, how silly of me.

gmyers
08-15-2009, 08:34 AM
I'd give them a check for it or the debit card and then make it mandatory that they mail the receipt to the welfare agency showing what they spent it on. People are getting more crooked every day. Don't they realize that the people that legitimately need help getting supplies and spend theirs on that will be hurt if they stop giving it to them because of the cheaters. Oh wait they don't care about anybody else but themselves.
Where was all this free stuff when I was growing up. My dad had to struggle to get our school clothes and supplies every year.

Renrut
08-15-2009, 09:26 AM
I don't know about them, but I sure wish I had it for school supplies lol. His list this year if just plain ole freakin nuts!!!!!!

krisharry
08-15-2009, 09:37 AM
There are always those who take advantage no matter what the program. It is sad. They have a big schooltools campaign here for donations of supplies, backpacks, etc. We always donate a big garbage bag full because I buy through the year whenever they have deals, ya know 10 cent notebooks and what not. I have seen first hand the abuse of this charity but I still do it in the hopes that I am helping someone with real need.

People have been screwing the system so to speak for years, selling foodstamps in the old days, etc. I wish there was a way to track those that used the $$ wrongly and deduct their benefits or something. The really sad thing is that the ones that bought tv's etc will have kids in school w/out what they need to be successful and that just burns me up.

ahippiechic
08-15-2009, 10:30 AM
A lot places here gave out school supply packs to people who receive assistance and there were people too lazy to go get them!

freeby4me
08-15-2009, 10:38 AM
A lot places here gave out school supply packs to people who receive assistance and there were people too lazy to go get them!

I feel sorry for those kids.

jasmine
08-15-2009, 11:58 AM
For the assistance program, I would have designated a store, walmart, kmart.... and let it only be for that store, and have the debt card/money/voucher etc. only used on specific school supplies that were on a list for the kids, not hand out cash that could be used in any way they could.

galeane29
08-15-2009, 12:36 PM
My church had a school supply give a way day and so did other churches in the area. We had people trying to take advantage of that, coming through the line several times.

Jenefer3
08-15-2009, 01:10 PM
They have a school supply give away here but when you go in, you have to provide proof of your children's ages and show your i.d. and then they ask what school and what grade and they have pre-made bags made up and hand those out. I volunteered at that once and it was a nightmare! They also gave away 1 package of socks and underwear for each child and parents complained because they weren't the right brand or color (they were Hanes and Fruit of the Loom and all were white). I donate supplies to it but will not ever volunteer there again. It's too crazy and people are too nuts for me.

whatever
08-15-2009, 01:17 PM
This NEVER surprises me. I'm not saying ALL people on welfare but there are some on welfare because they enjoy getting a check and not having to go to work. So this was just another "bonanaza" for them in some peoples minds.
I don't understand why they didn't just pick CERTAIN stores and hand out gift cards or some way to make it for this NOT to happen. Also why not include familes who are on unemployement or earn under a certain income of say $20,000 or whatever who can probably barely make ends meet now....

Jolie Rouge
08-17-2009, 11:57 AM
"Handing out cash with no strings attached is the absolute wrong way to promote education," said Brooks, who adds the state would've been better off with a voucher system.

Here you go a pick up a bag of supplies customized by school and grade.



And, who the heck needs $200 for school supplies? I never spent more than $20 on each kid per school year.

Lucky you ! :hi5: I spent about $250 between three kids; not counting uniforms & shoes.

loris520
08-17-2009, 12:57 PM
Duh you think the government would have learned from Katrina when alot of people used the cards for Purses and other crap when it was SUPPOSED to be used for housing,bills and other needed things.

Shann
08-17-2009, 11:21 PM
I don't understand why crap like this is tolerated. I'm sick of those getting help abusing it while others who truly need it are turned away. :mad: Haven't ppl shown that they cannot be trusted. I feel so bad for those kids, first their born to parents who obviously cannot afford them then they get help and what happens!??! the parents use that money on themselves for ridiculous items. :thumpdown: