Please don't take this the wrong way, but

[Shann]

has anything else happened in the world besides Michael Jackson passing? Don't get me wrong, it's a terrible tragedy and he will be missed, but alls I'm hearing about since yesterday is his passing. It's like Farrah has been pushed to the side. It seemed like one of our local news station's talked about his death for the first 30 mins then Farrah got like a minute of face time then back to him. :( I really hope that after the initial shock wears off we can get back to our "normalish" lives. All this coverage is making me sad and I shouldn't have to not watch the news to not see it... I am hoping to hear about other things and what is going on in my area. I guess Joe Jackson frequents a restaurant here and we're hearing about what a great guy he is... REALLY!?!? b/c that is not the picture that has been painted of him before. :confused: It's like an over kill of 9/11 all over again. :(

[mabby89]

It is annoying. But thats life I guess.

[Heidi]

Ed McMahon died on 6/23/09.

[Mini]

I agree 100%!

Its on every single dang channel! I havent seen hardly anything at all on Farrah or Ed it makes it seem like they didnt even matter.

[BeanieLuvR]

I was thinking the same thing. There was no mention of Farrah on our local news. :( All about Michael and the more that is coming out about why he died is really sad if what they are telling is true.

[jasmine]

I think that maybe because in a way we were all expecting farraha's death, as she had been going through cancer for a while, but with MJ, it was out of the blue, out of no where, it was a shock.
I mean, I was watching tv yesterday, and it interuppted in a "special report".
As I am not all to familiar with Farrah, the only thing that I know of her was she was a charlies angel... actress,playboy.... from what I gather.
I suppose it will all be about MJ for a while though.

[mabby89]

There has been David Carradine 6-03-09, Ed McMahon 6-23-09, Farrah Fawcett 6-25-09, and Michael Jackson 6-25-09. Which we all know MJ is the top story. Also wonder who the next two are? Death usually comes in three's and we are four into it. Patrick Swayze next? Who knows?

[hotwheelstx]

I agree. I think all that passed away recently need to be given the same amt. of time, sympathy, effort put into it.

This is starting to remind me of when Elvis passed away. It lasted for weeks from what I can recall....I was around 14 when he passed away.

This is really sad:

Farrah Fawcett's son, Redmond O'Neal, is told of her death in jail, will attend funeral.

Farrah Fawcett's son, Redmond O'Neal, learned of his mother's death while serving time in the L.A. County jail. Officials sent a chaplain and a grief counselor, accompanied by a sheriff's deputy, to break the news, according to L.A. County sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore.

"He's doing well, considering the circumstances," Whitmore said.

O'Neal will be allowed to attend his mother's funeral, he added. A similar court-approved visit was allowed when Fawcett fell ill in April.

O’Neal, 24, whose father is actor Ryan O’Neal, was arrested in April on charges of trying to smuggle drugs into a county jail, the latest in a string of drug-related arrests.

Redmond O'Neal's three-hour visit with his mother in April took place at Fawcett's home and was supervised by a sergeant and a deputy, costing $1,285, and was paid for by the family, Whitmore said.

[missteena]

Yeah...I am boycotting radio and news stations for a month.

[Mary Jo]

The death of Michael Jackson is probably a godsend for politicians. It takes some of the heat off Gov. Sanford. It's better than hearing how bad the economy is. It let's the government ignore the protests, etc. in Iran and thus not add to anti-American sentiment there. It's also a break from hearing piddly stuff about the Obamas such as their puppy, garden, what designer clothing Michelle is wearing, etc.

[taz69]

I bet his Plastic Surgeon is in mourning for months!

[tngirl]

I totally agree. I think it is sickening how everyone is all up in the air over a pervert dying. I am sorry that he had such a sad life, but I'm sorry. I don't like him and had no respect for him left. I always gave him the benefit of the doubt up til a certain point, then there was no doubt left.

[jasmine]

I bet his Plastic Surgeon is in mourning for months!

I always wondered why they didn't go after that plastic surgeon that made him look that way. I am sure the only reason the plastic surgeon continued was because MJ was able to dish out the money, but the plastic surgeon should have had the guts to say to him, no, no more surgeries....

[cathych]

i think that he was good in his younger days, and really put out some good music. But I really think that in the last few years, he has gotten weirder and weirder, and no telling what caused his death. And I think that it is a little ridiculous for people to sit and cry about his dying when they didn't even know the person. When he was in court for those child molestation charges, he looked freakish. And those white kids he keeps saying that they are his? And who names a child blanket???? Odd my friends, Odd.

[fleabones3]

The child's name isnt blanket, its Prince, but thats what his nickname is. Farrah's death was totally expected, and she got a lot of coverage over that plus with her documentary which is why theres not a lot about her on. Ed was 85 so yeah , he was expected. Our news is comparing Michael's death to Elvis of our generation so there will be a lot of more coverage, especially when they find out why his cardiologist left the home after his heart attack....
Reading the news this morning, I see Jesse Jackson has his nose in this now.. Now that is who I am tired of seeing all the time

[hotwheelstx]

Since MJ's plastic surgeon has a practice here it's still all over the t.v. It's like I stated earlier it's the same reaction (if not worse) when Elvis died. I'm not looking forward to the next month or so in the news.

Here's the latest:

Houston doc to meet with L.A. investigators
Police seize vehicle of Houston cardiologist who performed CPR on the superstar

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6499230.html

[ahippiechic]

I'm sorry that he died. He was very talented and was cute when he was young.

BUT BET, VH1, MTV, MTV2 and everyone else who are ONLY playing MJ's songs and vids....THAT'S ENOUGH ALREADY. No one wants to see/hear Thriller or Billy Jean 16,000 times a day.

[SurferGirl]

Yesterday the house passed cap and trade and yet mostly what was on the news was all about Michael Jackson. The media has really let us down again.
They hardly mentioned cap and tax at all.

I decided until this is over it's time to catch up on some of the DVD's I haven't had time for and to play some of the new CD's I got recently.

[sunflowers]

The news said he ranks up there w/ Elvis and the Beatles.
It is the passing of an Icon
He was the biggest thing in the 80s-90s
Then he grew strange and everyone kind of wrote him off wondering if all the "rumors" were true.

Give it a week then the news will be on to someone else.

[missteena]

I'm sorry that he died. He was very talented and was cute when he was young.

BUT BET, VH1, MTV, MTV2 and everyone else who are ONLY playing MJ's songs and vids....THAT'S ENOUGH ALREADY. No one wants to see/hear Thriller or Billy Jean 16,000 times a day.


No joke.

[justme23]

I don't know whose Icon... certainly not mine. It's said when any human being dies but I'm w/ tngirl... all this mourning over a child molester... it's rediculous... shut up already.

[cathych]

at least the Beatles who have died were not caricatures of themselves at their death. I thought Jackson was bloody weird myself. who lives in a neverland ranch, has a chimp for a best friend, and talks about how loving it is to share his bed with a child?

[Kelsey1224]

I actually saw a posting on FB where someone said, "Who cares if he raped little boys...get over it already. He was a great a artist....etc."

I was totally stunned that someone would even say that. I cannot get past the pedophile tendencies of his character...but I also recognize his talent and his contribution to the music world.

Okay...let's move on to different news.

[cpbaby]

There has been David Carradine 6-03-09, Ed McMahon 6-23-09, Farrah Fawcett 6-25-09, and Michael Jackson 6-25-09. Which we all know MJ is the top story. Also wonder who the next two are? Death usually comes in three's and we are four into it. Patrick Swayze next? Who knows?

Dont know if you consider him "famous", but As Seen On TV pitchman Billy Mays was found dead this morning.

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-billy-mays29-2009jun29,0,6116879.story

[ElleGee]

Dont know if you consider him "famous", but As Seen On TV pitchman Billy Mays was found dead this morning.

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-billy-mays29-2009jun29,0,6116879.story

Wow!

[Jenefer3]

I'm sorry that he died. He was very talented and was cute when he was young.

BUT BET, VH1, MTV, MTV2 and everyone else who are ONLY playing MJ's songs and vids....THAT'S ENOUGH ALREADY. No one wants to see/hear Thriller or Billy Jean 16,000 times a day.

Hippie, you KNOW you listen to it more than that on a typical day.

I haven't really noticed it too much on my channels (could be because my kids have watched cartoons or we just haven't had the TV on) but I did go to On Demand and notice they have a section just for him. I did watch a few of his music videos (Man in the Mirror, Black or White, Scream) but I like being able to choose if I want to hear or see about him.

[ahippiechic]

All the local hiphop/rap stations have been playing mostly MJ. Sorry, but MJ was NOT HipHop nor rap. I can see them having a special about him, he did a lot of talented work, but damn, not continuously.

[msginna]

they are honoring him and a lot of stations are doing that and will for a little while half the world is mourning for him.........

[msginna]

[QUOTE=Kelsey1224;96179082]I actually saw a posting on FB where someone said, "Who cares if he raped little boys...get over it already. He was a great a artist....etc."


there will always be a great debate here and no proof...a set of perents wanting money another comming out a million years later.......getting alllll kinds of attention... just watched it all on tv... just now again... as I did berfore

they got 30 million.. sued him in civil court not criminal, I would want him dead not his money. "so how you like my new shoes hun, yeh with the money you were molested in" . yeh you are going to school in the money that you got cause you were molested in... ewwwwwwwww I wouldn't want a dime of his bribe money... but that is me of course..


I am not saying he didn't do it... just saying I don't think he did... money hungry hands... and if MYYYYY kids came to me and were molested, taking money is the last thing I would want. BUT if I am looking for money....... SAYING he molested my kids is the way to go and get mj PEEPS in on it to give me info (getting a medical record with scar info and pay them off of course) and BAM we just brought him down... and they just about did didn't they........just saying


he is an odddddddddddddd man who loves to help and is lonely.... and just wants to be loved... and he was preyed upon... that is what I think...but it is between him and his god... or probably was..:)

[chib44]

has anything else happened in the world besides Michael Jackson passing? Don't get me wrong, it's a terrible tragedy and he will be missed, but alls I'm hearing about since yesterday is his passing. It's like Farrah has been pushed to the side. It seemed like one of our local news station's talked about his death for the first 30 mins then Farrah got like a minute of face time then back to him. :( I really hope that after the initial shock wears off we can get back to our "normalish" lives. All this coverage is making me sad and I shouldn't have to not watch the news to not see it... I am hoping to hear about other things and what is going on in my area. I guess Joe Jackson frequents a restaurant here and we're hearing about what a great guy he is... REALLY!?!? b/c that is not the picture that has been painted of him before. :confused: It's like an over kill of 9/11 all over again. :(

The even prempted a show on Fara to do MJ piece now that was not right. I sorry he was so deep into drugs ,but poor Fara fought 3 years and must surley have suffered greatley. I think she is sadling being over looked. Sorry for both passings though.

[BeanieLuvR]

Dont know if you consider him "famous", but As Seen On TV pitchman Billy Mays was found dead this morning.

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-billy-mays29-2009jun29,0,6116879.story

My 15 year old son loved that guy. He didn't believe me when I told him he had died. I clicked the link so he could read the obit. So sad so many are dying young. :(

[msginna]

my hubby and son actually watch his show ,they saw a glimse of his face as it was flashed on a news show and were really bumbed out..:(..............on their faces they were like forget about michael jackson....

[jasmine]

I agree with you msginna

If someone touched my children, I sure in the hell wouldn't want a damn dime off the ******* who did it. That is just wrong. Let him and his money burn in hell.........

[candygirl]

The good thing about it all is that there are T.V. and radio stations that's not catering to Micheal Jacksons death, so thank goodness for other choices. :)


On Friday night ABC or NBC showed her ( Farrah) Diary Special and MSNBC and TVland showed it yesterday also(Saturday).

[baragabrat]

Dont know if you consider him "famous", but As Seen On TV pitchman Billy Mays was found dead this morning.

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-billy-mays29-2009jun29,0,6116879.story

I can't say I recall so many 'celebrity' deaths in such a short time period. This is one guy I will not miss. I imagine we'll still have to sit through old infomercials with him as pitchman, but they'll fade away soon enough.

[fleabones3]

He is much better than that sham wow guy. Now he gets on my nerves. But I was watching something one night and they were talking with Billy Mays and he was funny and seemed like a nice guy. I dont like commercials or infomercials, but hey at least he was working and supporting his family unlike some other men

[Ambrianna]

I never heard anything about there being actual proof that MJ did anything to a child. I personally don't know if he did or didn't do anything, I'm not his judge and jury. But what I can't wrap my mind around is that he spent personal time with a LOT a LOT a LOT of children over the years. Yet no one can find any proof of him doing anything wrong. Wasn't it 2 people came forward trying to charge him with something, and nothing came of either? I'm sorry, I just don't think anyone is THAT good at hiding a problem like that. I could be wrong of course, but it doesn't make sense.

I know he paid off one of them at least, but I can't imagine MJ going through the whole ordeal for continued months. MY personality might state - "Yeah, just BRING it on, I didn't do anything wrong and you can't prove otherwise!" - but I don't think that's everyone's take. There ARE people out there in the world that cannot mentally and emotionally take THAT kind of spotlight. Entertaining people, making music, dancing like a nut - that's one kind of spotlight. Hateful insinuations that might not be true - yet damaging to a person no matter WHAT the truth is (which is totally bogus in my book) - is a spotlight some just can't handle.

No matter what, it was the accusers job to bring the proof of wrong doing and the limited time I paid attention, there was no proof. One of the recent articles I read on his death stated the same, nothing was ever found. If MJ being a pedophile turns out to be true, then I hope God will dole out true justice in some form or another. If it's really not true - how sad that he had to pass on with THAT memory left. I can't imagine being accused of such a horrible thing, being innocent of it, yet still being hated for it.

Personally I thougth he was a rather odd duck, but he was odd with himself - Weird pets, weird lifestyle, weird surgery. But - I never walked a mile in his shoes, I never lived his life, I never had an INSANE spotlight on me for 95% of my life. I never had my Father do the things to me that his did to him and the rest of the kids. Regardless, the man was a solid entertainer, a genuis with music and dance. I mean, Fred Astaire admired his talent!. Hehe, when the undeniable Fred gives you props, you KNOW you've arrived! :)

[Ambrianna]

Oddly enough, I'm not seeing/hearing a deluge of MJ news/music. I turned on MTV2 the night he passed and while others said they were seeing MJ videos, I saw Disturbed. I turned on MTV and saw some reality show about being 16 and pregnant. (Yet another MTV winner...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:)

The two hip hop stations I know of, I think I've heard one MJ song. One station is playing a "tribute" to MJ songs, but they play them like one every so often, not continuously. The classic rock station here has talked MORE about it then any other station and they don't play his music! Heh, figure THAT one out.

[ahippiechic]

Well, my station is playing Lil Wayne now, so all is right with world.....

[WendyLou75]

my hubby and son actually watch his show ,they saw a glimse of his face as it was flashed on a news show and were really bumbed out..:(..............on their faces they were like forget about michael jackson....


You know, John called me when he heard on the talk radio station that Billy Mays had died... and he was truly upset about it. We watched that show, a lot. He had/has a gorgeous little girl and a son too...

I am truly going to miss him... :( MJ, I could couldn't care either way... I liked some of his songs but not all. John liked him a lot. I don't know much about Farrah, other than she was one of the original Angels. And well, Ed McMahon never brought me my millions... ;) *That last part is a joke!*

[CAMSmama]

I never heard anything about there being actual proof that MJ did anything to a child. I personally don't know if he did or didn't do anything, I'm not his judge and jury. But what I can't wrap my mind around is that he spent personal time with a LOT a LOT a LOT of children over the years. Yet no one can find any proof of him doing anything wrong. Wasn't it 2 people came forward trying to charge him with something, and nothing came of either? I'm sorry, I just don't think anyone is THAT good at hiding a problem like that. I could be wrong of course, but it doesn't make sense.

I know he paid off one of them at least, but I can't imagine MJ going through the whole ordeal for continued months. MY personality might state - "Yeah, just BRING it on, I didn't do anything wrong and you can't prove otherwise!" - but I don't think that's everyone's take. There ARE people out there in the world that cannot mentally and emotionally take THAT kind of spotlight. Entertaining people, making music, dancing like a nut - that's one kind of spotlight. Hateful insinuations that might not be true - yet damaging to a person no matter WHAT the truth is (which is totally bogus in my book) - is a spotlight some just can't handle.

No matter what, it was the accusers job to bring the proof of wrong doing and the limited time I paid attention, there was no proof. One of the recent articles I read on his death stated the same, nothing was ever found. If MJ being a pedophile turns out to be true, then I hope God will dole out true justice in some form or another. If it's really not true - how sad that he had to pass on with THAT memory left. I can't imagine being accused of such a horrible thing, being innocent of it, yet still being hated for it.

Personally I thougth he was a rather odd duck, but he was odd with himself - Weird pets, weird lifestyle, weird surgery. But - I never walked a mile in his shoes, I never lived his life, I never had an INSANE spotlight on me for 95% of my life. I never had my Father do the things to me that his did to him and the rest of the kids. Regardless, the man was a solid entertainer, a genuis with music and dance. I mean, Fred Astaire admired his talent!. Hehe, when the undeniable Fred gives you props, you KNOW you've arrived! :)

Yep, What she said is just how I feel. strange? yes molester? no

[Kelsey1224]

[QUOTE=Kelsey1224;96179082]I actually saw a posting on FB where someone said, "Who cares if he raped little boys...get over it already. He was a great a artist....etc."


there will always be a great debate here and no proof...a set of perents wanting money another comming out a million years later.......getting alllll kinds of attention... just watched it all on tv... just now again... as I did berfore

they got 30 million.. sued him in civil court not criminal, I would want him dead not his money. "so how you like my new shoes hun, yeh with the money you were molested in" . yeh you are going to school in the money that you got cause you were molested in... ewwwwwwwww I wouldn't want a dime of his bribe money... but that is me of course..


I am not saying he didn't do it... just saying I don't think he did... money hungry hands... and if MYYYYY kids came to me and were molested, taking money is the last thing I would want. BUT if I am looking for money....... SAYING he molested my kids is the way to go and get mj PEEPS in on it to give me info (getting a medical record with scar info and pay them off of course) and BAM we just brought him down... and they just about did didn't they........just saying


he is an odddddddddddddd man who loves to help and is lonely.... and just wants to be loved... and he was preyed upon... that is what I think...but it is between him and his god... or probably was..:)

See...I totally understand where you are coming from. But, it wasn't as if she was expressing your point of view, i.e., he was never convicted of molesting a child, etc. She flat out posted, "So what if he raped little boys?" That statement totally floored me. After hearing that, I realized that she probably represented the type of mother who allowed their child to be around MJ just because of the opportunities it afforded her.

I don't know if he molested any children. As you say, it is between him and God. I do know based on his own comments that he certainly had no concept of appropriate behavior and proper boundaries which should be kept between an adult and a child. And, it was these comments (there is nothing more loving than sharing a bed with a child) that actually mirror statements said by pedophiles.

As someone who was molested as a child...I heard all the excuses about how what I experienced was simply an expression of "love' from an adult. So, forgive me if I'm a little skeptical.

[Vanilla]

Michael, I hope you are in Heaven with Barry White and Luther Vandross singing beautiful songs. I will continue to pray for your soul.

[Kelsey1224]

What I did find amusing and pathetic was the fans who staked out the Michael Jackson star on the Walk of Fame in Hollywood. (I live in LA and am quite familiar with the Walk of Fame. I frequently work premieres for Disney and know where a lot of the "stars" are.)

The problem was that the star in the sidewalk that people worshiped did not belong to Michael Jackson the "King of Pop". It belonged to the Michael Jackson who hosted a syndicated talk radio show for many years.

The 'real' star is in front of Grauman's Chinese Theater (now called Mann's Chinese Theaters) and it was temporarily covered up with a red carpet which was put in place for the "Bruno" premiere.

Geesh...what some people will do to get on TV.

[sunflowers]

Jackson's mother files for guardianship of the singer's children
http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=417719&GT1=28102

[hkh9832]

I never heard anything about there being actual proof that MJ did anything to a child. I personally don't know if he did or didn't do anything, I'm not his judge and jury. But what I can't wrap my mind around is that he spent personal time with a LOT a LOT a LOT of children over the years. Yet no one can find any proof of him doing anything wrong. Wasn't it 2 people came forward trying to charge him with something, and nothing came of either? I'm sorry, I just don't think anyone is THAT good at hiding a problem like that. I could be wrong of course, but it doesn't make sense.



Two people I always go back to that really would have said something I think if Michael Jackson was truly a molester would be Ryan White's mom and Macaulay Culkin's dad.

I mean, from what I've heard Kit Culkin has a big mouth and is a pretty mean guy at times. So, if he's that big of a jerk and someone pulled a funny one on his kid, he'd be all over the media with it. As far as Ryan White, he got death threats for no reason and was allowed to stay at Michael's ranch as a safe haven. So for me, that doesn't add up as far as Michael being a big scary monster.

Plus, the family that originally accused him of any wrong was a real piece of work. I think they'd been busted for tax evasion in the past? Which if that's the case, it sets off a red flag right there. The whole matter of the mom divorcing the dad for a much younger guy was odd to me too. So soon after as well. The final straw for me is there is (alleged) evidence of the father of this boy basically saying they were extorting money from Michael.

[gmyers]

I know that he had to show his penis once because a kid descrided a white spot that was on it. And I heard Michael Jackson had that disease where you lose the pigment in your skin. I remember Michael Jackson saying that was humiliating to have to do that. I wonder if he had the mark on it or not.

[pepperpot]

Not every pedophile is attracted to every child neither......as in not every hetero female is attracted to every male......:shrug

No proof on Michael? :shrug I still have doubts......really not sure, the guy was wierd, probably through no fault of his own.

[gmyers]

What I'd like to know is it true that he took baths with boys. Some of his staff were saying that too. If he did then his staff were as guilty as he was in my opinion.

[msginna]

I know that he had to show his penis once because a kid descrided a white spot that was on it. And I heard Michael Jackson had that disease where you lose the pigment in your skin. I remember Michael Jackson saying that was humiliating to have to do that. I wonder if he had the mark on it or not.



I think this is false too, OR could be... I have a record of allllllll my marks and tattoo that were taken in a physical ... could have been attained by people that were paid off..BAM... there is no solid proof... all speculation, all could have been gotten by money and greed, no one will ever know

[fleabones3]

I remember when Michael had to take that pic of his penis. He was on tv talking about it. Thats what made me think he didnt do it, cuz if the kid described it and there was a picture and IF it matched what the boy said, thats all the proof you need right there. Funny thing was after the picture was taken,nothing else was said about it. HMMM yeah.

I am not saying Michael didnt do things he shouldnt have with kids, but as far as molesting them..i am not so sure of.

[gmyers]

People are saying its racist how people are bringing up stuff about Michael Jacksons life. They don't think they should be bringing up anything negative about him.

[pepperpot]

People are saying its racist how people are bringing up stuff about Michael Jacksons life. They don't think they should be bringing up anything negative about him.

Sorry, but that sounds like the Obama campaign.....:rolling:.......I have no defense, ergo, "it's racist"....:rolleyes:

[cathych]

Really? And what race was he?

[cpbaby]

Really? And what race was he?

Human.

[cathych]

I know that that is easy to say, but I would venture to say that in the last several years he has not acted like any human I have ever seen.

[evrita]

I know that that is easy to say, but I would venture to say that in the last several years he has not acted like any human I have ever seen.

I was staying out of this and I assume you dont lead a sheltered life. How many people are you are suffer from mental illlness because he showed all the classic examples but it seems he was held above the laws of what others wouldve been arrested for doing. Like holding a baby over a railing and a few other things. I am not saddened by his death nor do I consider him the king of pop. I am saddened that others death who are trying to make awareness of a cause are getting over shawdowed.

Thats it I am getting offf my soap box and I feel truley bad for his kids who had to walk around in the clothes he had them wear and now the crap they are going to have to go thru. People forget about the important things when people die.

[cathych]

I think that there are probably lots of families around just like his; we only know about his because the whole Jackson clan is rich and famous. I realize that all the kids were abused; and that led to a whole host of problems when they were older. My grandmother was bi-polar, and my mother was abused terribly, and in turn it affected her relationships with the people she loved, still to this day when she is 80. I do also feel sorry for those kids. I am just rather weary of hearing day after day about Michael Jackson and how wonderful he was. I think that he was a talented musician in his day, and he may have had a good personality to the people that knew him well, but none of us knew him at all and I think that it is a little ridiculous to be crying hysterically over a rock star.

[fleabones3]

No matter who it is .. Michael, Farrah, Ed, etc etc etc they are all PEOPLE. Everyone of them had their faults, and their good points. I remember , and this was years ago.. just before the first abuse case. A woman jumped off a bridge in california with 2 or 3 kids. Michael paid for the funeral(s) of the ones that died, 1 lived I believe and he paid for counseling and a scholarship for him. He did a lot of stuff like that , and sometimes there wasnt a bunch of publicity about it.

I mean if you are tired of hearing it or seeing it.. turn the channel. Or turn the tv off. its really that easy

[OkeDoke]

No matter who it is .. Michael, Farrah, Ed, etc etc etc they are all PEOPLE. Everyone of them had their faults, and their good points. I remember , and this was years ago.. just before the first abuse case. A woman jumped off a bridge in california with 2 or 3 kids. Michael paid for the funeral(s) of the ones that died, 1 lived I believe and he paid for counseling and a scholarship for him. He did a lot of stuff like that , and sometimes there wasnt a bunch of publicity about it.

I mean if you are tired of hearing it or seeing it.. turn the channel. Or turn the tv off. its really that easy

:yeah Very well said.

[whatever]

I was staying out of this and I assume you dont lead a sheltered life. How many people are you are suffer from mental illlness because he showed all the classic examples but it seems he was held above the laws of what others wouldve been arrested for doing. Like holding a baby over a railing and a few other things. I am not saddened by his death nor do I consider him the king of pop. I am saddened that others death who are trying to make awareness of a cause are getting over shawdowed.

Thats it I am getting offf my soap box and I feel truley bad for his kids who had to walk around in the clothes he had them wear and now the crap they are going to have to go thru. People forget about the important things when people die.

I agree with you. I was a fan in the late 80's early 90's when he was still "normal". Then he went all "freaky" and did things only god knows about.
As for people saying people were after his money.......I'm not a parent which is NO secret. However I recall one court case DID go to trial and of course being who he was he was aquitted of the charges and "then" they went after him for money( if I recall).
Most parents probably knew charges wouldn't stick against him. Like evitra said he got away with alot of "crap".
And its now been over a week and STILL they are talking about his death and playing it up!! MOVE on!!! It reminds me of the Anna Nicole death.

[Ambrianna]

I agree with you. I was a fan in the late 80's early 90's when he was still "normal". Then he went all "freaky" and did things only god knows about.
As for people saying people were after his money.......I'm not a parent which is NO secret. However I recall one court case DID go to trial and of course being who he was he was aquitted of the charges and "then" they went after him for money( if I recall).
Most parents probably knew charges wouldn't stick against him. Like evitra said he got away with alot of "crap".
And its now been over a week and STILL they are talking about his death and playing it up!! MOVE on!!! It reminds me of the Anna Nicole death.

I'm curious...what is "alot of crap" that he got away with?

He was around a lot of children, but only two ever said anything? Or did I miss that there were more?

Seriously, I CANNOT imagine a child in danger being "glossed over" by our judicial system. Drugs, guns, even domestic violence against an adult, okay. But a pedophile?

As a parent, I would do anything I could to make sure I had proof. The last folks were caught in several lies. Didn't the last child admit the Dad wanted him to say things against Michael Jackson?

I don't know. I think it sucks when celebrities get away with things. My husband and I have this argument often with sports celebrities. But I also think it sucks when someone's entire career/life is ruined because of lies.

[pepperpot]

I don't know. I think it sucks when celebrities get away with things. ........ But I also think it sucks when someone's entire career/life is ruined because of lies.

:agree

[evrita]

I'm curious...what is "alot of crap" that he got away with?

He was around a lot of children, but only two ever said anything? Or did I miss that there were more?

Seriously, I CANNOT imagine a child in danger being "glossed over" by our judicial system. Drugs, guns, even domestic violence against an adult, okay. But a pedophile?

As a parent, I would do anything I could to make sure I had proof. The last folks were caught in several lies. Didn't the last child admit the Dad wanted him to say things against Michael Jackson?

I don't know. I think it sucks when celebrities get away with things. My husband and I have this argument often with sports celebrities. But I also think it sucks when someone's entire career/life is ruined because of lies.

Really are you serious ? What do you think wouldve happened to me if I was seen publiclly dangling my child over a balcony?? How about all the drugs in his house that people knew about? My DD is on meds for her disease and bruises easy want know know how fast a CPS was called on me explaining why? I had to show documntation from her doctors she was questioned and her meds were written down all charges dismissed. Humm do you think if I had hung her over a railing she would be in my house?

[gmyers]

If it was all lies then why did Michael himself tell someone that interviewed him that sleeping with boys was a beautiful thing. How many grown men do you know that admit that or do that and are not prosecuted for child molesting. If its lies then why would he say that like he thought theres nothing wrong with it. My husband said theres no way he would ever say something like that. You'd have to be crazy too. If a regular person said something like that they would have lost their kids and probably been prosecuted. Would any of you dare say that on tv where everyone can hear it

[dv8grl]

I ask the people who think that MJ is innocent, I say " Would you allow your child to sleep in the bed with a grown man? "
They look & say, "thats different"
Yeah, hypocrite, not different.
Then they want to make it a racial thing & thats even more ridiculous!

[jerseybarb]

I never cared much for Michael or his music, and yes I think the hype over his death is too much with people saying how good he was


Its amazing how death improves people

[nightrider127]

I likd the early Jackson 5 stuff but that was about it.

Barb is right when she says death improves people. That is the absolute truth. I know a co worker of mine was shot on her way in to work and died. She was not well liked at all. As a matter of fact, she was coming in early so she could get stuff on day shift people (she was 2nd shift) because she was nothing but a snitch. You would thought she was the best person that ever was after she died. Even most of her enemies loved her.

[jasmine]

I ask the people who think that MJ is innocent, I say " Would you allow your child to sleep in the bed with a grown man? "
They look & say, "thats different"
Yeah, hypocrite, not different.
Then they want to make it a racial thing & thats even more ridiculous!

I do have to say that when my children were smaller, some of the fun, neat times we had was when we all cuddled in bed with some movies, and popcorn, books, and just layed there and talked and played, my son sleeps in bed with nanna and papa sometimes when he stays over there (he's almost 2).
BUT, I would never allow it if it were someone else, infact, it would never be anyone else, cause they would never be put in that position.

Example~
If one of my kids were to stay the night at MJ's never land, it would have to be like a hotel setting. My child would have there room with other children of same gender, splitting the girls and boys up into their own rooms. And then with each room get nannies, babysitters, or what ever you would call it, and some room service..... but of course, they wouldn't be allowed to do something like that anyway LOL

[cathych]

yes, I think that it is quite different when it is with someone else. After all, who hasn't let their own kids in their beds at one time or another? But with another adult? That is a different horse.

[Ambrianna]

Really are you serious ? What do you think wouldve happened to me if I was seen publiclly dangling my child over a balcony?? How about all the drugs in his house that people knew about? My DD is on meds for her disease and bruises easy want know know how fast a CPS was called on me explaining why? I had to show documntation from her doctors she was questioned and her meds were written down all charges dismissed. Humm do you think if I had hung her over a railing she would be in my house?

I do recall him taking a LOT of public flak for pulling that little stunt. I saw the video and when people gasped, he pulled the child back right away. Do we know for certain that he had NO repercussions behind the scenes, that we just don't know about? Maybe. Maybe not. As far as your daughter, well, you're not dealing in like situations. Your daughter had bruises. That's something that can be seen, it's tangible. It's not a very serious accusation no one can prove either way. I'm sorry your little one has to take such a medication. :(

Was it a dumb thing to do? YES!! I think he realized it when the got the reaction he did. Should it crucifiy him for the rest of his life? (Or afterlife) No.

I think the issues about the drugs are just starting to come to light. I've been busy the last few days, I really haven't paid much attention to news about ANYthing.

Please don't lump me in with "death improves people". I think of him the same now as I did when he was alive. I think he was a phenomenal performer, with personal issues. I think he was a great-looking black man before he started the surgeries. I think the Father of that family screwed up many of the children, Michael the worst. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see he did NOT want to look like himself anymore. I think he gets some of the coverage he does - and comments by some on this board - because he looked different and is/was very odd by the public's standards. It's so much easier to find a person guilty of virtually anything when their looks disturb you. And if their actions are odd? That's all the "proof" some folks need.

I've stated before, if somehow it does come out that he abused children, I hope those children get retribution in some form. I still seriously cannot understand how you can keep so many children quiet. I guess some people just don't need any proof and will believe anything - as long as the object of the accusations is considered an odd-ball.

I don't believe for a minute that if any average person dangled their child over a balcony for a few seconds would have that child taken away from them forever. A visit from CPS? A lot of shocked, stunned people? Sure. Taken away because you're a horrible parent? No. Many parents every day make mistakes with their kids, that's a fact of life. There's a mighty big diff between an error in judgment and treating your kids like crap.

[cathych]

I think the man is dead and we all ought to leave him, his family, and his children in peace.

[ElleGee]

The circus that will be his funeral is p1ssing me off.. On the Today show they were actually congratulating one of the 'winners' of the drawing to attend his funeral.. And the dude is going to auction the tickets off on eBay .. What the eff is wrong with people...

[gmyers]

I think the Jackson family or Michaels estate should pay for this. They said its going to cost over 2 million and California shouldn't have to pay for it. If the family wants it they should pay for it.

[pepperpot]

California is already giving out IOUs......why burden them more with all this expense.....(not the funeral but the city services and tax payers being burdened)

[ElleGee]

I heard that they need to hire 25 THOUSAND police officers for this funeral.. It's insane

[Kelsey1224]

California is already giving out IOUs......why burden them more with all this expense.....(not the funeral but the city services and tax payers being burdened) It isn't coming out of the state budget, it is coming out of the city budget which is also strapped.

I live in LA and many citizens have questioned the expense of this circus...and it is a circus. The response from the city is that there is already money budgeted for things like this which require overtime, more manpower, etc. I certainly hope so.

I do not know how people are going to be able to sell the tix on eBay (although I have seen the auctions.)

Supposedly when you go to pick up your tickets (which are being distributed at Dodger Stadium)...you will be given a credential plusa wrist band which will be put on you at the time. Torn, cut, or damaged wrist bands will mean that you will be turned away! I also heard that you must present your credential AND ID which should match.

Now...that will only work for the one person holding a tix (the 'winners' received two). I don't believe that when the tickets are picked up that both people who will use the tickets need to be present.

I haven't been a fan of MJ's in a while and my earlier posts say how I feel about the man. However, I feel that the family is doing the best they can do to keep it to a minimum. Considering there were only 8,000+ winners of the ticket lottery and over 1 million people submitted requests, obviously there needed to be some kind of public memorial for the 'fans'. There will be no 'funeral procession' because of what that will do to traffic as well as how dangerous that could be to those in the procession. There will be no public viewing as there has been for other celebrities.

The two venues which have been booked are across the street from one another so as to accommodate the most people in close proximity. The only other options available would have been Dodger Stadium or the Coliseum...which probably weren't fine options.

All this being said...I will be glad when this is all over.

[ilovecats]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31760415/ns/entertainment-music/?GT1=43001


N.Y. congressman blasts Jackson as ‘pervert’
Rep. Peter King says coverage of singer’s death is ‘too politically correct’

omg I can't believe this guy had the balls to put his thoughts out there like that.

[speedygirl]

No kidding! He says;


But in a telephone interview Monday, King said that Jackson had “admitted to sleeping with young boys, traveling with young boys. ... That’s the definition of pedophilia.”



dude, pick up a dictionary.

[gmyers]

If its true that he molested boys then yes he's a pervert. Whether he can sing or not and he shouldn't be glorified.

[Ambrianna]

If its true that he molested boys then yes he's a pervert. Whether he can sing or not and he shouldn't be glorified.

Just saying "he can sing" is like saying Martin Luther King "could speak a few words". There's just so much more to it than that. Michael Jackson broke records AND barriers with his music. Some don't think that's a big deal. Between 750 million - 1 billion today thought otherwise.

I don't know, I guess some people aren't so into music. I've always been a music hound, I LOVE music. From birth. Michael Jackson was an enormous contributor to the music industry. That's over now. It's sad for those of us that have a love for that industry and a deep appreciation for it.

RIP, Michael. Your talent will be sorely missed.

[justme23]

Man... I saw part of the circus they had today... I can NOT believe they put his daughter on the stage when she clearly was uncomfortable... and they were encouraging her and making a spectacle of it. Such a disappointment how the "family" is acting... ugh... I understand there are ppl who "hero worship" this molester... but it's over now and it really needs to be let go.

In afghanistan on the 4th SEVEN SOLDIERS DIED. I had no idea until today... because I keep hearing about the molester... it's disgusting.

[Njean31]

Man... I saw part of the circus they had today... I can NOT believe they put his daughter on the stage when she clearly was uncomfortable... and they were encouraging her and making a spectacle of it. Such a disappointment how the "family" is acting... ugh... I understand there are ppl who "hero worship" this molester... but it's over now and it really needs to be let go.

In afghanistan on the 4th SEVEN SOLDIERS DIED. I had no idea until today... because I keep hearing about the molester... it's disgusting.

truth be told she prob wanted to say something in his memory.

as far as the soilders deaths....you should bookmark http://www.stripes.com/
i would never rely on the mainstream media for military news.

[hesnothere]

I can NOT believe they put his daughter on the stage when she clearly was uncomfortable... and they were encouraging her and making a spectacle of it.
I saw it as her choice. It was announced that Janet would speak then Paris said something to Janet and it looked like Janet said something like 'are you sure' and then she nodded and said yes...most of what was going on at that point was spontaneous. I think they would have rather said less but, like most funerals, people need to be given a chance to put a voice to their grief. I spoke at my fathers' funeral and it wasn't just uncomfortable, it was heartrending, but I had to do it.