The abortion doctor Tiller was killed today!

[gmyers]

I just heard on the news he was shot to death while entering church . I heard it on Headline news.

[NasCat]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_tiller_shooting

[gmyers]

Thanks for posting the link to the story. They said they think it was a white male in his fifties. They saw him leaving the scene but I don't think they caught him.

[YankeeMary]

How sad. How horrible that his wife was there to see it as well as the rest of the congregation. This was so sensless. "I am against murder, so I am gonna kill you." What a tiny mentality.

[SurferGirl]

I really was hoping that Tiller would be brought to justice over the murders of inocent babies. I don't think anyone is right to murder someone just because they are a murderer.

[gmyers]

I don't understand it either and I bet the person that did it thinks they did the right thing. Which isn't right at all.

[speedygirl]

I don't understand the logic behind it. The killer didn't even take the law into his own hands since what the doctor was doing wasn't illegal. He just flat out killed him in church and in the process harmed the lives of everyone that had to witness it.The killer is a coward. If he was trying to be the hero by killing Tiller, he would have stayed there and become a martyr for their cause and taken his punishment like a man.
I'm tired of these extremists.

[SurferGirl]

Thanks, I get tired of all the extremest too. Two wrongs never make it right.

[IthinkNOT!]

I think it is a sad day when someone gets murdered for doing their job.

[candygirl]

Source: Suspect in custody in abortion doc slaying

Associated Press Writer Roxana Hegeman, Associated Press Writer – 6 mins ago
WICHITA, Kan. – Prominent late-term abortion provider George Tiller was shot and killed Sunday in a Wichita church where he was serving as an usher, his attorney said. The gunman fled but a city official said a suspect is in custody.

The city official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the case. The official did not provide additional details.

Long a focus of national anti-abortion groups, including a summer-long protest in 1991, Tiller was shot during morning services at Reformation Lutheran Church while his wife was in the choir, his attorney Dan Monnat said. Police said the gunman had fled in a car registered in Merriam, a Kansas City suburb nearly 200 miles away.

Tiller's Women's Health Care Services clinic is one of just three in the nation where abortions are performed after the 21st week of pregnancy.

Tiller's killing is "an unspeakable tragedy," his widow, four children and 10 grandchildren said in statement issued by Monnat. "This is particularly heart-wrenching because George was shot down in his house of worship, a place of peace."

The family said its loss "is also a loss for the city of Wichita and women across America. George dedicated his life to providing women with high-quality health care despite frequent threats and violence."

A protester shot Tiller in both arms in 1993, and his clinic was bombed in 1985. More recently, Monnat said Tiller had asked federal prosecutors to step up investigations of vandalism and other threats against the clinic out of fear that the incidents were increasing and that Tiller's safety was in jeopardy.

In early May, Tiller had asked the FBI to investigate vandalism at his clinic, including cut wires to surveillance cameras and damage to the roof that sent rainwater pouring into the building.

Anti-abortion groups denounced the shooting and stressed that they support only nonviolent protest. The movement's leaders fear the killing could create a backlash just as they are scrutinizing U.S. Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor, whose views on abortion rights are not publicly known.

"We are shocked at this morning's disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down," Troy Newman, Operation Rescue's president, said in a statement. "Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice. We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning."

In 1991, the Summer of Mercy protests organized by Operation Rescue drew thousands of anti-abortion activists to this city for demonstrations marked by civil disobedience and mass arrests.

Tiller began providing abortion services in 1973. He acknowledged abortion was as socially divisive as slavery or prohibition but said the issue was about giving women a choice when dealing with technology that can diagnose severe fetal abnormalities before a baby is born.

After the 1991 protests, Tiller kept mostly to his heavily guarded clinic, although in 1997 he opened it to three tours by state lawmakers and the media.

Tiller remained prominent in the news, in part because of an investigation started begun by former Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline, an abortion opponent.

Prosecutors had alleged that Tiller had gotten second opinions from a doctor who was essentially an employee of his, not independent as state law requires. A jury in March acquitted Tiller of all 19 misdemeanor counts.

"I am stunned by this lawless and violent act, which must be condemned and should be met with the full force of law," Kline said in a written statement. "We join in lifting prayer that God's grace and presence rest with Dr. Tiller's family and friends."

Abortion opponents also questioned then-Gov. Kathleen Sebelius' ties to Tiller before the Senate confirmed her this year as U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary. Tiller donated thousands of dollars to Sebelius over the years.

[gmyers]

You know I've noticed lately police are solving cases a lot faster than they used too.Like the case of the sunday school teacher who killed the little girl, or the one where the mans wife and two sons were found strangled in their house and others. They're really doing good lately catching the bad guys.

[Jolie Rouge]

The murder of partial birth abortion doctor George Tiller
Posted by: Sister Toldjah on May 31, 2009 at 8:20 pm
http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2009/05/31/the-murder-of-partial-birth-abortion-doctor-george-tiller/

As I’m sure you’ve heard by now, partial birth abortion doctor George Tiller has been murdered:


(CNN) — Dr. George Tiller, whose Kansas women’s clinic was the epicenter of the state’s battles over abortion for nearly two decades, was shot and killed at his church Sunday morning, his family said.

Tiller, 67, was fatally shot shortly after 10 a.m. Sunday at Reformation Lutheran Church, Wichita police said.

Sunday afternoon, authorities took a man into custody near Kansas City after stopping a car that matched a description of the killer’s getaway vehicle, according to sheriff’s deputies in Johnson County, Kansas. No charges had been filed and a motive for the killing was not immediately known.

Witnesses provided a license number for a powder-blue Ford Taurus they said the killer used to speed away from the church, police spokesman Gordon Bassham said.

Tiller was one of the few U.S. physicians who still performed late-term abortions. In 1993, he was shot and wounded through both arms outside his Wichita clinic. Shelley Shannon, an ardent foe of abortion, was convicted of attempted murder in the shooting and is currently serving a 20-year sentence in federal prison.

Because Tiller was a target of pro-lifers for decades, it is being assumed - mostly by the left - that his murder was committed by a pro-life “Christianist.”

Even President Obama, unsurprisingly, has jumped on this bandwagon:


WICHITA, Kansas - President Obama said this afternoon that he was “shocked and outraged” by the killing of abortion doctor George Tiller, who was shot while attending church in east Wichita.

Wichita Deputy Police Chief Tom Stolz said at a news conference late this afternoon that a suspect in the shooting was in custody and on his way back to Wichita. “However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence,” the president said in a statement issued by the White House.


The suspect is in custody:


Deputy Chief Tom Stolz w/ Wichita Police Dept. says Dr. Tiller died of a single gunshot wound. A 51-year-old suspect is in custody in Johnson County. Police say the suspect was arrested without incident after a traffic stop.

Stolz says formal charges are expected Monday. Suspect faces one count of murder, two counts of aggravated assault. Detective says suspect threatened two others who tried to keep him from leaving the area.

The suspect, whose name will not be released until formally charged, is on his way back to Wichita.

First things first, whether or not the person who murdered Tiller was a “pro-life Christianist” or not, I join other conservative bloggers who are stating without hesitation that Tiller’s murderer deserves to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and that the death penalty should be on the table. Even if he/she was/is a “pro-life Christianist,” this isn’t the wild, wild West anymore, and this isn’t the way that a civilized society resolves its differences. As readers of this blog know very well from my prior writings on the topic, I am strongly anti-abortion, but I also strongly condemn acts of violence against abortion providers. The way to go about changing minds on abortion is not by killing its providers. It’s by educating people on what abortion actually is, what it involves, and why most women have them. Changing enough minds on the issue could make it so that one day abortions are so unpopular that it would be a mere formality to ban the practice. And yes, I know that day is a long way off.

That said, it should be no surprise to anyone the despicable displays being shown by pro-abortion forces on the left, trying to broad brush the entire pro-life movement for the actions of a few fringe nuts in the past - and possibily the present (again, we don’t yet know the motivations for the murder).

Andrew Sullivan, unsurprisingly, has been a ringleader in all this by using the “Christianist” label, and blaming Bill O’Reilly for the murder of Tiller. Donald Douglas verbally slaps him, and other opportunistic lefties, down here. http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/andrew-sullivan-christianists-killed.html

In addition to conservatives across the blogosophere, various pro-life groups have issued statements condemning the murder, but that hasn’t stopped even “respectable” leftists from using the broadbrush, and in the process characterizing this murder as an act of “domestic terrorism” (more here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/christian-fundamentalist_b_209521.html ).

No doubt, pro-abortionists will use (and are in fact already are using) the murder of Tiller in order to lionize the practice of abortion and the doctors who provide them, in hopes of continuing to advance the idea that abortions are “ok” to have and should remain “legal.” But in the middle of all the drama surrounding Tiller’s murder, and the inevitable mainstream media/left wing bloggers/columnists mass broad condemnations of the pro-life movement for the actions of a few disturbed individuals, it shouldn’t be ignored that Tiller was not just an abortion provider - he was one of the few doctors who performed abortion after the 21st week. LaShawn Barber reminds everyone in detail of what the process of PBA actually involves, and notes how Tiller once said of PBAs: http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2009/05/31/child-killer-george-tiller-killed/


He’d spoken at a National Education Association conference, and pro-life group Students for Life of America secretly videotaped him talking about babies slipping out of the womb alive during abortions. He called this “sloppy medicine.”

No, Tiller certainly did not deserve to be gunned down, but he doesn’t deserve the “hero” label that so many on the left are giving him for the “quality health services he provided for women across the country.” Dr. Tiller performed the following procedure on third trimester babies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intact_dilation_and_extraction


Under the Intact D&X method, the largest part of the fetus (the head) is reduced in diameter to allow vaginal passage. According to the American Medical Association, this procedure has four main elements.[7] First, the cervix is dilated. Second, the fetus is positioned for a footling breech. Third, the fetus is partially pulled out, starting with the feet, as far as the neck. Fourth, the brain and material inside the skull is evacuated, so that a dead but otherwise intact fetus can be delivered via the vagina.

Usually, preliminary procedures are performed over a period of two to three days, to gradually dilate the cervix using laminaria tents (sticks of seaweed which absorb fluid and swell). Sometimes drugs such as pitocin, a synthetic form of oxytocin, are used to induce labor. Once the cervix is sufficiently dilated, the doctor uses an ultrasound and forceps to grasp the fetus’ leg. The fetus is turned to a breech position, if necessary, and the doctor pulls one or both legs out of the birth canal, causing what is referred to by some people as the ‘partial birth’ of the fetus. The doctor subsequently extracts the rest of the fetus, usually without the aid of forceps, leaving only the head still inside the birth canal. An incision is made at the base of the skull, scissors are inserted into the incision and opened to widen the opening,[8] and then a suction catheter is inserted into the opening. The brain is suctioned out, which causes the skull to collapse and allows the fetus to pass more easily through the birth canal. The placenta is removed and the uterine wall is vacuum aspirated using a cannula.[9]

That procedure can be described many ways, but a “quality health service” is not one of them. Dr. Tiller can be called many things, but a “hero” is not most definitely not one of them. Also, let’s not forget that, in spite of the left’s assertions on why women have partial birth abortions, they myth of “life of the mother” was debunked long ago. http://www.slate.com/id/2086/

The chips will fall where they will with this murder, and hopefully the killer will get what he deserves when all is said and done. But just because Tiller’s murder may have been due to the type of abortions he performed doesn’t mean that that the position that all unborn babies should be protected is wrong and shouldn’t be advanced. There are kooks on both sides of the aisle. Does the left think that because the eco-terrorist movement is alive and well (see FBI: Eco-Terrorism Remains No. 1 Domestic Terror Threat http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html ) means that the green agenda isn’t a worthy one? No, they don’t, and they don’t appreciate it when anyone on the right tries to make such an argument. By the same token, the left shouldn’t use the isolated acts of fringe abortion opponents to broad brush the pro-life movement on the whole, but they will - perhaps because they know that the tide is turning on the issue of abortion http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Than-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx , and as a result they’ll have to use whatever excuses they can to continue to justify its practice, including continued deception on both the procedures themselves and why they’re done.

May justice be served - both for Tiller’s murderer, and for the precious unborn.

[Jolie Rouge]

Notes on the murder of George Tiller
By Michelle Malkin • June 1, 2009 12:48 AM
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/01/notes-on-the-murder-of-george-tiller/


*Late-term abortion doctor George Tiller was gunned down at his church in Kansas Sunday morning in a thoroughly evil, cold-blooded act of domestic terrorism. Yes, terrorism. Not “extremism.” Interesting how the t-word has been rediscovered.

*Every mainstream pro-life organization has unequivocally condemned the killing.

I repeat: Every mainstream pro-life organization has unequivocally condemned the killing.

*Princeton University professor Robert P. George is right about this:
“Whoever murdered George Tiller has done a gravely wicked thing. The evil of this action is in no way diminished by the blood George Tiller had on his own hands. No private individual had the right to execute judgment against him. We are a nation of laws. Lawless violence breeds only more lawless violence.”

*President Obama is right about this:

“However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence.”

*Unfortunately, some are not content to leave it at that for now. They fail to respect that there is a proper time and place to indulge in political battle.

You can go here, here, and here for all that.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/5/31/737368/-More-proof-that-its-anti-choice,-not-pro-life
http://www.memeorandum.com/090531/p30#a090531p30
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adele-stan/tiller-murder-ann-coulter_b_209525.html
Another round-up here. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rusty-weiss/2009/05/31/liberal-blogs-quickly-link-doctor-s-murder-limbaugh-hannity-beck

Tiller’s family is grieving. Those who have jumped to score political points before Tiller is even buried are no better than the Phelps family thugs of the “Westboro Baptist Church” who respect no bounds of civility.

Unfortunately, it’s too much to ask the cable news networks and hyper-partisan snipers on the Internet to have the decency to restrain themselves.

Prepare for a wall-to-wall onslaught of gleeful finger-pointing on the Left and heated responses on the Right.

Prepare for whitewashed hagiographies of Tiller’s career as an abortionist.

Prepare for DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano’s defenders to gloat about vindication.

Prepare for collective demonization of pro-lifers and Christians — and more gratuitous attempts to tar talk radio, Fox News, and the Tea Party movement as responsible for the heinous crime.

Prepare for the continuing redefinition of any and all sharp political disagreement as “hate” — a ruinous trend that inevitably comes back to haunt the hysterical accusers decrying “hate” the loudest.

How unhinged has the discourse gotten already? Here’s the left-wing Daily Kos http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/1/737411/-Shorter-Aravosis:-Obama-Killed-Dr.-Tiller going after the left-wing John Aravosis for going after Barack Obama because he didn’t go after “right-wing extremism” hard enough http://www.americablog.com/2009/05/pro-life-terrorist-opens-fire-in-church.html?dsq=10334706#comment-10334706


Sunday, May 31, 2009
Pro-life terrorist opens fire in church, kills doctor
by John Aravosis (DC) on 5/31/2009 01:36:00 PM

Thank God that the Obama administration caved last month to religious right and GOP demands that it withdraw a new domestic terrorism report that indicated, among other things, that radicals might use abortion as a justification for committing acts of domestic terrorism. Now a man is dead, and an American church has been shot up during services. Which leads to the question as to whether the Obama administration plans to do anything about the terrorist threat posed by religious right extremists, or whether typical Democratic spinelessness will lead us to now ignore this brutal murder, since that is the message that was sent last month, just weeks before this act of terror.

Note that had Obama held firm in the face of the criticism last month, he'd be riding high right now and the GOP would be cowering in shame for having basically enabled this terrorist act. But Democrats rarely look to the future, nor do they see benefit in having a spine or doing what's right. And now a man is dead.

Remember what I wrote only a month ago about the religious right demanding the right to kill. Today, in a church, they exercised that right. As they have in the past. As they will in the future.


Prepare for whitewashed hagiographies of Tiller’s career as an abortionist.

This has started already with the report at CNN quoting Peter Brownlie:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/31/kansas.doctor.killed/index.html


Tiller had been practicing medicine for nearly 40 years, said Peter Brownlie, president of the Kansas City-based regional Planned Parenthood office. His patients were “almost always in circumstances where something had gone horribly wrong with a pregnancy,” and where a woman’s health would be endangered if the pregnancy continued, Brownlie said.

I have followed the story of Phil Kline investigating Tiller for a long time, when he first filed for 30 counts of violating Kansas law, and how the abortion industry did whatever they had to do to destroy Kline. Brownlie was in the middle of that.

Those 30 counts were 30 cases in which Kline thought he could prove the late-term abortions performed by Tiller were in violation of Kansas law…which requires a threat to the health of the mother. Depression was cited in at least one case. The law also requires a second, independent Doctor’s opinion that the mother’s health was threatened. In more than one case, a Doctor was used that had financial ties to Tiller. Of the 19 counts that were eventually brought, all were dismissed.[/quote]

None of this in any way excuses Tiller being gunned down at his church…or anywhere else.

One wonders what would have happened if the case went to trial.


It’s going to be a long week.

[gmyers]

I don't believe they should try to make a hero out of him now. The kind of abortions he did shouldn't have been done. And wasn't he being investigated for doing them illegally without a second opinion or something like that. It doesn't matter what a person does they're always a good person when they die to some people.

[SHELBYDOG]

Tiller began providing abortion services in 1973. He acknowledged abortion was as socially divisive as slavery or prohibition but said the issue was about giving women a choice when dealing with technology that can diagnose severe fetal abnormalities before a baby is born.


It seems he's been providing abortion services since abortion was legalized. WHY is he the bad guy for providing services that are legal?
I'm pro-choice, if you don't agree with abortion than don't have one, it's your choice. Why do people or groups of people think they have the right to tell other women, especially when they don't know the circumstances of the pregnacy, what they can or cannot do about that pregnacy? In Indiana abortion is legal up to 12wks & I think that's fair time to make a decision. In Illinois it used to be & still may be legal up to 9 months. I think at 9 months that is murder, but it's not my business or place to scream murder to anyone who should make a decision at 9 months in a state where it's legal. I'm not sure that I could bring a child into this world knowing it had severe abnormalties or could be stillborn, but that's me & that's all I have to speak for is me & IMO that's why we have laws on the matter.
The shooter of this abortion doctor I only hope rots in the depths of hell for killing this doctor in God's house!

[SHELBYDOG]

Suspect jailed in Kansas abortion doctor's killing


By ROXANA HEGEMAN, Associated Press Writer Roxana Hegeman, Associated Press Writer – 42 mins ago
WICHITA, Kan. – A man suspected of fatally shooting abortion doctor George Tiller in church was in jail Monday while investigators sought to learn more about his background, including his possible connections to anti-abortion groups.

Tiller, 67, was serving as an usher during morning services Sunday when he was shot in the foyer of Reformation Lutheran Church, police said. The gunman fired one shot at Tiller and threatened two other people who tried to stop him.

The suspect, identified by one law enforcement agency as Scott Roeder, was taken into custody some 170 miles away in a Kansas City suburb about three hours after the shooting.

At a news briefing Monday morning, Wichita authorities confirmed that charges had not yet been filed and said they were not releasing any new information. The FBI also has been investigating, and it was not clear if charges would be filed in state or federal court.

Tiller had been a lightning rod for abortion opponents for decades. The women's clinic he ran is one of three in the nation where abortions are performed after the 21st week of pregnancy, when the fetus is considered viable, and has been the site of repeated protests for about two decades.

A protester shot Tiller in both arms in 1993, and his clinic was bombed in 1985.

Roeder, 51, was returned to Wichita and was being held without bail on one count of first-degree murder and two counts of aggravated assault. Formal charges were expected to be filed Monday.

Outside the clinic Monday morning, flowers were placed along a fence, and the anti-abortion group Kansas Coalition for Life left a sign saying members had prayed for Tiller's change of heart, "not his murder."

In Washington, the U.S. Marshals Service said that as a result of Tiller's shooting, Attorney General Eric Holder had ordered it to "increase security for a number of individuals and facilities." It gave no details.

Tiller himself last had protection from the U.S. marshals in 2001, and he and other doctors received such protection at different times in the 1990s.

A man with the same name as the suspect has a criminal record and a background of anti-abortion postings on sympathetic Web sites. In one post written in 2007 on the Web site for the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue, a man identifying himself as Scott Roeder asked if anyone had thought of attending Tiller's church to ask the doctor and other worshippers about his work. "Doesn't seem like it would hurt anything but bring more attention to Tiller," the post said.

But police said Sunday that all early indications showed the shooter acted alone.

Operation Rescue condemned the killing as vigilantism and "a cowardly act," and the group's president, Troy Newman, said Roeder "has never been a member, contributor or volunteer." He may have posted to the organization's open Internet blog, Newman said, but so have thousands of nonmembers.

But Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry, whose protests have often targeted Tiller, called the slain doctor "a mass murderer," adding: "He was an evil man — his hands were covered with blood."

In 1996, a 38-year-old man named Scott Roeder was charged in Topeka with criminal use of explosives for having bomb components in his car trunk and sentenced to 24 months of probation. However, his conviction was overturned on appeal the next year after a higher court said evidence against Roeder was seized by law enforcement officers during an illegal search of his car.

At the time, police said the FBI had identified Roeder as a member of the anti-government Freemen group, an organization that kept the FBI at bay in Jordan, Mont., for almost three months in 1995-96. Authorities on Sunday night would not immediately confirm if their suspect was the same man.

Morris Wilson, a commander of the Kansas Unorganized Citizens Militia in the mid-1990s, told The Kansas City Star he knew Roeder fairly well.

"I'd say he's a good ol' boy, except he was just so fanatic about abortion," Wilson said. "He was always talking about how awful abortion was. But there's a lot of people who think abortion is awful."

The slaying quickly brought condemnation from both anti-abortion and abortion-rights groups, as well as President Barack Obama.

"However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence," Obama said in a statement.

Wichita Deputy Police Chief Tom Stolz said Tiller apparently did not have a bodyguard with him in church, although the doctor was routinely accompanied by one. An attorney for Tiller, Dan Monnat, said the doctor's wife, Jeanne, was in the choir at the time of the shooting.

Monnat said in early May that Tiller had asked federal prosecutors to step up investigations of vandalism and other threats against the clinic out of fear that the incidents were increasing and that Tiller's safety was in jeopardy. However, Stolz said authorities knew of no threats connected to the shooting.

Church members said anti-abortion protesters have shown up outside the church on Sundays regularly.

"They've been out here for quite a few years. We've just become accustomed to it. Just like an everyday thing, you just looked over and see them and say, 'Yup they're back again.'"

The last killing of an abortion doctor was in October 1998 when Dr. Barnett Slepian was fatally shot in his home in a suburb of Buffalo, N.Y. A militant abortion opponent was convicted of the murder.

One of Tiller's lawyers and friends, Dan Monnat, told ABC's "Good Morning America" that Tiller had been supported by his wife and children in his decision to continue providing abortion services.

"If Dr Tiller is not going to service a woman's right to chose, who will do it?" Monnat said.

"Many of those have been terrorized and run off by protesters," he said about other abortion providers.

___

Associated Press writer John Hanna contributed to this report.

[gmyers]

I don't think in any way he should have been killed but what he did for a living was awful. And I'll never understand how he could go to church and sit there like everything was wonderful after killing babies the way he did. Its barbaric what he did to those babies. Cruel and terrible. To suck a babies brain out while its still alive. If someone did that to an animal or a death row inmate all heck would break loose but to do it to a baby is ok. No problem at all. Its just cruel and to me no better than what a serial killer does when they take instruments and slowly torture his victims. Every time I think of what that baby had to feel when they puncture it and suck the brain out I just want to cry for it.

Please someone explain to me what kind of mentality does a person have to have to puncture a tiny baby and suction there brain out. Everyone that loves animals on here would really be mad if the pound did this to an animal to euthanize it. And people would be all over it even if it was a serial kiler on death row. But its perfectly alright when its a tiny baby. Please tell me how we as human beings allowed this type of abortion to even be allowed or legal. Where is our outrage that its done to a tiny baby. Do we want abortion to be legal so bad we're all willing to overlook the sheer brutality of this method of it. God help us all if its ok with us. I believe the blood of all the babies its done to is going to be on all our hands for not stopping at least that kind of abortion.

[SurferGirl]

Tiller really should have been brought to justice for breaking the law about getting a second opinion. Now God will be the one to judge him. Tiller murdered over 60,000 babies.


This is from one of Jolies links
http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2009/05/31/child-killer-george-tiller-killed/
Child Killer George Tiller Killed
by La Shawn on May 31, 2009

in Child Killing

***Scroll down for updates and images***

Earlier this year I blogged about a man named George Tiller, killer of babies. He’d spoken at a National Education Association conference, and pro-life group Students for Life of America secretly videotaped him talking about babies slipping out of the womb alive during abortions. He called this “sloppy medicine.”

Tiller made the case for infanticide by showing graphic photos of unborn babies with abnormalities. He admits on tape to having aborted babies a day before the mother’s due date. One murdered baby in Tiller’s photo collage was a child with three arms. I asked, “Why didn’t the mother carry the baby to term and consider corrective surgery after he was born? A baby with an extra arm isn’t worthy of life?”

Today, Dr. Infanticide was shot and killed while walking into a church. Is “ironic” the right word to describe it?

Who killed Tiller the child killer, cultivator of death?


http://lashawnbarber.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pba1.jpg


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Update II: My blog’s influence isn’t as far-reaching as it used to be, but I want to urge folks not to dwell on charges for which Tiller was aquitted. The charges had nothing to do with the legality or illegality of killing babies per se. The state alleged that Tiller failed to get a second opinion from an independent doctor when killing babies. It didn’t turn on protecting the unborn. It was about paperwork.



I only copied two of the pictures the first and the last.

[speedygirl]

The man is dead, we know what he did and in no way should that have any bearing on the fact that he was murdered in front of family and the rest of his congregation. By talking about his abortion history does make him more worthy of being murdered.

[gmyers]

No it doesn't but I hope he's not considered some kind of hero either. This form of abortion was not necessary at all. I still don't see how he could do what he did then go to church and not feel bad for what he was doing. Theres no way I could sit in church knowing I did that for a living.

[SHELBYDOG]

I don't think in any way he should have been killed but what he did for a living was awful. And I'll never understand how he could go to church and sit there like everything was wonderful after killing babies the way he did. Its barbaric what he did to those babies. Cruel and terrible. To suck a babies brain out while its still alive. If someone did that to an animal or a death row inmate all heck would break loose but to do it to a baby is ok. No problem at all. Its just cruel and to me no better than what a serial killer does when they take instruments and slowly torture his victims. Every time I think of what that baby had to feel when they puncture it and suck the brain out I just want to cry for it.

Please someone explain to me what kind of mentality does a person have to have to puncture a tiny baby and suction there brain out. Everyone that loves animals on here would really be mad if the pound did this to an animal to euthanize it. And people would be all over it even if it was a serial kiler on death row. But its perfectly alright when its a tiny baby. Please tell me how we as human beings allowed this type of abortion to even be allowed or legal. Where is our outrage that its done to a tiny baby. Do we want abortion to be legal so bad we're all willing to overlook the sheer brutality of this method of it. God help us all if its ok with us. I believe the blood of all the babies its done to is going to be on all our hands for not stopping at least that kind of abortion.

I think I would have to question what kind of mentality does the mother of child about to be aborted in this manner have? Blaming the Dr. isn't the answer, blame the politicians who okayed this procedure. I definately don't agree with it, but there is nothing I can do to stop it & killing the man who does perform this procedure just brings more outrage on abortion issues.
Yes it's barbaric, but I'm sure he went to church religously & believed in God & he might of felt that since abortion in this manner is legal, he was only doing his job.

[SHELBYDOG]

No it doesn't but I hope he's not considered some kind of hero either. This form of abortion was not necessary at all. I still don't see how he could do what he did then go to church and not feel bad for what he was doing. Theres no way I could sit in church knowing I did that for a living.


Maybe he went to church bc of what his occupation was. Abortion is legal & has been for along time now, someone has to do it, if not him someone else will in the states that allow this procedure.

[speedygirl]

I don't consider Tiller a hero and I don't think that most people do. The fact of the matter is that the murderer killed another human being in a house of worship and in the process, scarred the minds of an entire congregation for the rest of their lives. You just don't kill people because you disagree with their stance on something. If we all used that logic there'd be very few people left.

[gmyers]

I agree you should never kill anyone no matter what.

[gmyers]

Maybe he went to church bc of what his occupation was. Abortion is legal & has been for along time now, someone has to do it, if not him someone else will in the states that allow this procedure.

I just don't understand someone that could do that. Isn't doctors policy to do no harm to anyone. And if that form of abortion isn't harm then I don't know what is.

[gmyers]

I think I would have to question what kind of mentality does the mother of child about to be aborted in this manner have? Blaming the Dr. isn't the answer, blame the politicians who okayed this procedure. I definately don't agree with it, but there is nothing I can do to stop it & killing the man who does perform this procedure just brings more outrage on abortion issues.
Yes it's barbaric, but I'm sure he went to church religously & believed in God & he might of felt that since abortion in this manner is legal, he was only doing his job.


I guess I just don't see how church and abortion can go together. Its against what church preaches. And I don't see how you can believe in God but not in what he teaches is right and wrong. I would have felt so guilty doing that and then going to church like I hadn't done anything wrong. Legal or not its morally wrong.

[SurferGirl]

We need to pass laws that protect the unborn.
Actually in a partial birth abortion all but the head is actually born.
Were are all those that think everybody should have civil rights?
While Bush was in office he did get a law passed to make this brutal form of murder against the law. Most of us that are pro life think that ending this late term abortion is necessary. Well we all know what happened.

[SHELBYDOG]

I guess I just don't see how church and abortion can go together. Its against what church preaches. And I don't see how you can believe in God but not in what he teaches is right and wrong. I would have felt so guilty doing that and then going to church like I hadn't done anything wrong. Legal or not its morally wrong.

It is morally wrong, I just can't dwell on things I can't change, so I try to see the other persons side for any possible reasoning.

[SHELBYDOG]

We need to pass laws that protect the unborn.
Actually in a partial birth abortion all but the head is actually born.
Were are all those that think everybody should have civil rights?
While Bush was in office he did get a law passed to make this brutal form of murder against the law. Most of us that are pro life think that ending this late term abortion is necessary. Well we all know what happened.

And you know I could support ending late term abortions, I can't support someone laying all the blame on Obama & calling him a baby killer for not ending it.
I lay the real blame on the people who legalized late term abortions to begin with, now there's your real baby killers.
I'm pro-choice, but I wouldn't be if I ended late term abortions, I'd be flip-flopping & I'm thinking so would Obama...........