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dv8grl
03-02-2009, 07:33 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090302/pl_nm/us_palestinians_gaza_clinton;_ylt=Akhxrju1ZqZ52AJd 4SwN2RGs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTJuZW5lY2VtBGFzc2V0A25tLzIw MDkwMzAyL3VzX3BhbGVzdGluaWFuc19nYXphX2NsaW50b24EcG 9zAzEzBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcnkEc2xrA2NsaW50b25zYXlz bg--

SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt (Reuters) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took a hard line against the Islamist Hamas group on Monday and said $900 million in U.S. aid for the Palestinians was part of a broader bid for Arab-Israeli peace.

Underlining the U.S. administration's position, Clinton said no money would go to Hamas which must recognize Israel, renounce violence and sign on to past Israeli and Palestinian agreements if it wanted to come out of isolation.

In her first foray into Arab-Israeli peacemaking, Clinton said President Barack Obama's administration was committed to pursuing an Arab-Israeli peace and that the aid package, about a third of it for Gaza, was aimed at accelerating those efforts.

"Our response to today's crisis in Gaza cannot be separated from our broader efforts to achieve a comprehensive peace," Clinton told an international donors' conference held for Gaza in the Egyptian coastal resort of Sharm El-Sheikh.

"Only by acting now can we turn this crisis into an opportunity that moves us closer to our shared goals," she said.

Later on Monday, Clinton will go to Israel and the West Bank where the U.S. special envoy to the Middle East for the Obama administration, George Mitchell, has been speaking to both sides to assess options for restarting peace talks.

"We will vigorously pursue a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict," said Clinton, whose husband, President Bill Clinton failed to secure an elusive peace deal.

Of the more than $900 million in U.S. funding, which has to be agreed by the U.S. Congress, $300 million was earmarked specifically to provide urgent humanitarian aid for Gaza after Israel's military offensive in December.

Clinton was adamant that none of that money would go to Hamas, which rules Gaza and which Washington labels a terrorist organization. "We have worked with the Palestinian Authority to install safeguards that will ensure our funding is only used where and for whom it is intended and does not end up in the wrong hands," she said.

BOLSTER ABBAS

A key goal of the U.S. funding is to shore up the Western-backed government of President Mahmoud Abbas, who governs the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

Of the U.S. package, $200 million will help cover budget shortfalls of Abbas's government with $400 million for economic reform and private sector and other projects on the West Bank.

Palestinian factions are in reconciliation talks to form a unity government that could include Hamas and Clinton said the Palestinian Authority of Abbas offered a more peaceful future.

"Not the violence and false choices of extremists whose tactics including rocket attacks that continue to this day, only will lead to more hardship and suffering," she said, in reference to rockets fired from Hamas into the Jewish state.

"For the Palestinians, it means that it is time to break the cycle of rejection and resistance and to cut the strings pulled by those who exploit the suffering of innocent people," she said.

Before leaving for Israel, Clinton was to meet the other members of the quartet of Middle East peacemakers -- the United Nations, European Union and Russia. U.S. officials said she would push them to maintain a hard line on Hamas.

Israeli politicians are seeking to form a new government and Clinton -- in apparent reference to hawkish prime minister-designate Benjamin Netanyahu -- said Israelis needed to show the Palestinians that there were benefits to negotiating.

LuvBigRip
03-02-2009, 07:52 AM
How do they intend to stop it? Hamas is the government in Gaza?

anothersta
03-02-2009, 11:09 AM
How do they intend to stop it? Hamas is the government in Gaza?


They aren't going to stop it. They are just going to SAY they will stop it so everyone will feel good...

justice250
03-02-2009, 11:44 AM
Ok when it's shown in a few months that Hamas did in fact get money, can we impeach Obama for treason as Hamas is a known terrorist organization?

SurferGirl
03-02-2009, 11:57 AM
They will use the excuse they gave the money to the UN, follow the UN's track record and we know where there loyalty is.

I think it will take a compete collapse of our economy along with terror attacks by obamanations friends that he plans on releasing from Gitmo, and maybe when he starts planting his islamic flag over the white house, maybe, just maybe we can impeach his sorry a$$ and charge him with treason.

PinkAquila
03-02-2009, 12:07 PM
Government funds never go where they are supposed to go.
No one will have an answer, they just point the finger to the next guy and say ask him.

anothersta
03-02-2009, 12:49 PM
So, what message is sent to Hamas?

Bomb Israel into retaliation, then the UN will send you 1 billion dollars. More money for more bombs.

Meanwhile, they oppress their people, exploit their people, liberals are cruel. But what do the libs get out of it?

A good feeling....

ahippiechic
03-02-2009, 01:00 PM
So, what message is sent to Hamas?

Bomb Israel into retaliation, then the UN will send you 1 billion dollars. More money for more bombs.

Meanwhile, they oppress their people, exploit their people, liberals are cruel. But what do the libs get out of it?

A good feeling....

Not all of us......

anothersta
03-02-2009, 01:05 PM
FYI

Hamas (as of Friday) has sent 101 rockets into Israel since the 'truce'. (I use the word truce in the LOOSEST sense of the word)

Now they've got a billion to get some really good rockets. But, these folks aren't stupid. They KNOW, if they can provoke a response from Israel, then wail and moan about how their people are getting hurt (nevermind the injured Israelis and the fact that Hamas is starving their people anyway), they will get another billion bucks.

and the UN will get another good feeling....

Wonder how many good feelings the people of Gaza get?

gmyers
03-02-2009, 01:09 PM
Well thats good to know we don't have to worry now because Hillary Clinton has assured us that Hamas wont get the money. And we all know her and Obama are going to personally be there to make sure Hamas doesn't get it. We were worried for nothing.

anothersta
03-02-2009, 01:18 PM
My mistake, the amount Gaza is getting is 5.2 BILLION.


Lawmakers on Capitol Hill say they are concerned that some of the billions of dollars pledged to rebuild the Gaza Strip, including money from the United States, may end up in the hands of Hamas.

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit announced at an international donors conference on Monday that $4.48 billion in new funds has been pledged for rebuilding the Gaza Strip, which was devastated in Israel's recent offensive against its Hamas rulers. He said other nations recommitted themselves to funds they promised in the past but never delivered, bringing the total to $5.2 billion.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/02/lawmakers-worry-gaza-aid-away-hamas/

Is the Gaza strip even worth that?? Maybe we should just buy it outright

Jolie Rouge
03-03-2009, 08:57 AM
http://www.bigbigforums.com/news-information/613375-another-good-use-american-taxpayers-money.html

Team Obama and the Democrats will give nearly a billion dollar stimulus to Gaza??

Gee, do you think any of this will end up in the hands of Hamas terrorists? Can anyone find the thread were it discusses the medicines and supplies sent by Isreal into Gaza that were stolen by Hamas ? The medicine bottles that were turned into homemade grenades by the Hamas terrorists with the Isreali pharmacy labels still visiable ?? :?:

US Pledges $1B Stimulus Package... For Gaza


http://www.mererhetoric.com/images/hed/obama09.jpg

Actually that's an exaggeration. It's only a little more than $900 million: http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275477.html


The United States plans to pledge more than $900 million to help rebuild Gaza after Israel's offensive against Hamas and strengthen the Palestinian Authority, a U.S. official said on Monday. The money will be channeled through UN and other bodies and will not be distributed via the militant group Hamas, which rules Gaza, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton plans to make the announcement next week at a Gaza donors conference in Egypt.

The March 2 donors conference in Sharm el-Sheikh resort aims to raise humanitarian and rebuilding funds for Gaza after Israel's offensive against Hamas at the end of last year. About 1,300 Palestinians were killed during the campaign, according to Gaza officials, as were 13 Israelis.

Old Reuters boilerplate: "About 1,300 Palestinians were killed during the campaign, about two-thirds of which were civilians..."

New Reuters boilerplate: "About 1,300 Palestinians were killed during the campaign, according to Gaza officials..."

And people say that there's no upshot to thoroughly debunking the credulous pro-Hamas propaganda published by Western media outlets. Look how much more straightforward and honest they're being!

Anyway, one billion US dollars are going to UNRWA for infrastructure. I would point out that this is effectively a backdoor subsidy for Hamas since normally they'd have to spend some of their money being effective civil administrators. This way they can use all their resources for weapons and war-fighting. But since the money is going to UNRWA it's actually a direct subsidy for Hamas.

References:
* 'U.S. plans to pledge $900 million for Gaza' [Ha'aretz] http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1066381.html

* Gaza Body Count: Were We Duped? [TIME]
http://mideast.blogs.time.com/2009/02/18/gaza-body-count-were-we-duped/

* Obligatory Post About Kerry Being Shocked Shocked That UNRWA Works For Hamas [MR] http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275475.html

Admittedly, the foreign policy acumen of Congressional Democrats tends toward the less than impressive. But even they know that UNRWA is a de facto Hamas outlet. The way I know they know is because they said as much a few days ago. So come on:


U.S. officials are furious with the United Nations for its role in Hamas' attempt to enlist U.S. Sen John Kerry to transfer a letter from the Palestinian militant group to President Obama during Kerry's trip to the Middle East, an official source told FOX News. The incident also has raised security concerns over how much Hamas knew about Kerry's travel plans. Kerry turned the letter over to the U.S. consulate in Jerusalem on Friday, saying he was unaware that it was from Hamas until hearing about the letter in media reports, including on the BBC. He told FOX News on Saturday that he will not be visiting Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal during his trip to Syria on Saturday. He is scheduled to meet with Syrian President Bashar Assad. U.S. officials in Jerusalem are outraged at the United Nations Relief and Works agency for apparently handing the letter off to Kerry.

Here's CAMERA's new roundup of the open collaboration between Hamas and UNRWA. It's not exactly the Middle East's best kept secret. UNRWA officials brazenly spin anti-Israel lies for Hamas. They openly provide funds for Hamas. They unblinkingly inflate casualty figures for Hamas. But that they would pass on a letter from Hamas to a US Senator touring the Gaza Strip with leading anti-Israel Democrat Keith Ellison - that's unthinkable.

So, to sum up: come on.





* UN: "Clerical Error" Made Us Mistakenly Think Israel Bombed UNRWA School. Opps... http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275433.html

* UN Imposes Collective Punishment On Gaza Population In Response To Hamas Crimes, Suspends Humanitarian Shipments
http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275434.html


* Congress: Hey, Has Anyone Heard About This "We Fund UNRWA And UNRWA Funds Hamas" Rumor? http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275445.html