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freeby4me
07-31-2008, 04:35 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080731/ap_on_go_ot/congress_contempt_18


WASHINGTON - A federal judge on Thursday rejected President Bush's contention that senior White House advisers are immune from subpoenas, siding with Congress' power to investigate the executive branch and handing a victory to Democrats probing the dismissal of nine federal prosecutors.

The unprecedented ruling undercut three presidential confidants who have defied congressional subpoenas for information that Bush says is protected by executive privilege. Democrats swiftly announced they would schedule hearings in September, at the height of election season.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the House could soon vote on a contempt citation against one of the three officials, Karl Rove, formerly Bush's top adviser.

"It certainly strengthens our hand," she said of the ruling. "This decision should send a clear signal to the Bush administration that it must cooperate fully with Congress and that former administration officials Harriet Miers and Karl Rove must testify before Congress."

That wasn't clear at all to the White House or Rove's attorney. Bush administration lawyers were reviewing the ruling and were widely expected to appeal. They also could seek a stay that would suspend any further congressional proceedings.

"We disagree with the district court's decision," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said.

With only a few months left in Bush's presidency, there appeared to be no sense of urgency to make the next move.

"I have not yet talked with anyone at the White House ... and don't expect that this matter will be finally resolved in the very near future," Rove attorney Robert Luskin said in an e-mail.

The case marked the first time Congress ever has gone to court to demand the testimony of White House aides.

In his ruling, U.S. District Judge John Bates said there's no legal basis for Bush's argument that his former legal counsel, Miers, must appear before Congress. If she wants to refuse to testify, he said, she must do so in person. The committee also has sought to force White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten to release documents on any role the White House may have played in the prosecutor firings.

"Harriet Miers is not immune from compelled congressional process; she is legally required to testify pursuant to a duly issued congressional subpoena," Bates wrote. He said that both Bolten and Miers must give Congress all nonprivileged documents related to the firings.

Bates, who was appointed to the bench by Bush, issued a 93-page opinion that strongly rejected the administration's legal arguments. He said the executive branch could not point to a single case in which courts held that White House aides were immune from congressional subpoenas.

"That simple yet critical fact bears repeating: The asserted absolute immunity claim here is entirely unsupported by existing case law," Bates wrote.

The ruling is a blow to the Bush administration's efforts to bolster the power of the executive branch at the expense of the legislative branch. Disputes over congressional subpoenas are normally resolved through political compromise, not through the court system. Had Bush prevailed, it would have dramatically weakened congressional authority in oversight investigations.

That remains a risk, one Republican said.

"Unfortunately, today's victory may be short-lived," said Rep. Lamar Smith, the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee. "If the administration appeals the ruling, our congressional prerogatives will once again be put at risk."

Congressional Democrats called the ruling a ringing endorsement of the principle that nobody is above the law. Shortly after the ruling, the chairmen of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees quickly demanded that the White House officials subpoenaed appear before their panels.

Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., chairman of the House panel, signaled that hearings would commence in September on the controversy that scandalized the Justice Department and led to the resignation of a longtime presidential confidant, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

"We look forward to the White House complying with this ruling and to scheduling future hearings with Ms. Miers and other witnesses who have relied on such claims," Conyers said in a statement. "We hope that the defendants will accept this decision and expect that we will receive relevant documents and call Ms. Miers to testify in September."

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said, "I look forward to working with the White House and the Justice Department to coordinate the long overdue appearances."

Between now and September, Congress will recess for five weeks of summer vacation. Bates scheduled a conference between the litigants on Aug. 27 to take stock of whether negotiations had moved forward, as he urged in his ruling. Congress then returns to a brief, three-week session before scattering to the campaign trail. All 435 House seats and a third of the Senate are up for grabs, as well as the presidency.

Republicans said there was little reason to rush to an accommodation, noting that subpoenas will expire at the end of the 110th Congress in January.

"I'm sure it will be appealed and it will go on into next year, and it will become a moot issue," said House GOP Leader John Boehner of Ohio.

Several Democratic officials said they expected the subpoenas to be reissued in January if their party retains control of Congress in the November elections.


Ok, all political affiliation aside, does it not scare anyone else that A President feels he's above the laws of this country?

jbbarn
07-31-2008, 08:06 PM
Yep! It scared the Hell out of me for 8 looong years (1992-2000)!

No politics involved,I would've voted to throw Bubba & Co. out!

mesue
08-01-2008, 04:07 AM
Why in the world would anyone be scared about a president who sit in a classroom full of students staring off into space while we were being attacked on his watch? The excuse for not getting up and leaving the classroom, he could not think of a way to excuse himself without scaring the children. LOL This man is from a wealthy family, who entertains kings, he attended Harvard and he did not have the etiquette skills to excuse himself without frightening the children.

Why would anyone be scared of a president who lied to us all to lead us into war? Why on earth would we be scared of a President who not only lied to his people about the reasons and evidence, he lied to Congress?

Why on earth would we be afraid of a President who lied to us about illegally listening in on our calls, reading our emails and breaking the FISA laws?

But hey Clinton lied about a sexual encounter with an intern who was of age, lets all dive under the bed and hunker down.

Mom2Shaun
08-01-2008, 01:39 PM
Right on, mesue! Oh, and don't forget the havoc he has wreaked on this country; going from having a surplus in the budget to the situation we're in now, with cuts in social services and healthcare, hospitals closing, gas prices and food prices soaring, the housing crash, etc., etc. Now THAT'S scarey! I could go on and on, but people do know this, even if they don't want to admit it.

mesue
08-03-2008, 06:43 PM
The judge told the defendants when he asked them what they had done and they said they were trying to arrest karl Rove said, "It's about time!"

Here is a link, too funny.

http://www.iowapolitics.com/index.iml?Article=132588

Bahet
08-03-2008, 06:58 PM
So, jb, if Clinton had refused to testify you wouldn't have been fine with that right?

Why is it everytime Bush and his cronies does something so egregious, like declaring themselves above the checks and balances put in place by the founding fathers, someone comes back with "But but but... Clinton got a blow job!" Also, the point is only made even more puerile and irreverent with the silly "Bubba", "Clintoon", etc. stuff.

ETA, that goes the same for the Shrubya stuff as well before anyone decides to jump on that bandwagon.