American flag removed from Obama jet

[dor1969]

Thoughts on this??
Maybe the cover of The New Yorker wasn't so far fetched....the flag burning in the fireplace.


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ELECTION 2008
American flag disappears from Obama campaign jet
Candidate's trademark 'O' replaces stars and stripes

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Posted: July 21, 2008
6:31 pm Eastern


By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily



The U.S. flag no longer appears on the tail of the plane that will be used by presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama (Courtesy Chicago Sun-Times)

As part of a month-long aircraft makeover, a painted American flag was removed from the tail of Sen. Barack Obama's official campaign airplane and was replaced with the presidential candidate's trademark "O" symbol.

The refurbished 757 was unveiled to members of the news media today, 41 of whom boarded the craft and took off to meet Obama in Amman, Jordan, where the presidential candidate will stop as part of a Middle Eastern and European tour.

Obama traveled to the Mideast earlier this week on board a separate airplane.

Fox News blogger Bonny Kapp, traveling on Obama's new airplane, reported:

"The North American jet that flew Obama and his traveling crew around for much of the primary season was refurbished with new seats and power for each passenger a must on the campaign trail. And the plane that once had an American flag on its tail now sports the Obama 'O.'"

(Story continues below)



Obama's 'O' symbol is red, white and blue.

Most official U.S. government aircraft, including Air Force One, have U.S. flags on their tails.

Both Fox News and the Chicago Sun-Times posted pictures of the Obama campaign's redressed airplane, which does not have an American flag or any other U.S. national symbols on the section that sports the airplane door from which Obama and his team will enter and exit.

The airplane boasts Obama's anthem, "Change We Can Believe In" and the candidate’s website address.


The plane that Sen. Barack Obama will use on his campaign features his slogan and his Web address (Courtesy Sun-Times)

The aircraft also has required identification numbers and a U.S. flag to identify the nationality of the aircraft.

According to Chicago Sun-Times reporter Lynn Sweet, the refurbished Obama aircraft features a "first class" section for the candidate and his closest advisors; several "business class" seats, and a large coach section, usually meant for the traveling press corps.

Sweet reported fruit and cheese platters greeted reporters on board the flight. Dinner options offered were beef medallions, baked tilapia or eggplant parmesan.

She wrote the Obama campaign provided overnight kits for the flight that include toothbrush, mouthwash, socks, Neutrogena body lotion and lip moisturizer, Scope mouthwash, ear plugs and a blindfold for sleeping.

[freeby4me]

The aircraft also has required identification numbers and a U.S. flag to identify the nationality of the aircraft.

Did no one notice this sentence when writing the story about his plane not having a US Flag on it now?

I cant believe people are still trying to make a big deal out of something like this. Can ya'll seriously not find something worthwhile to jab him with?

[dor1969]

The aircraft also has required identification numbers and a U.S. flag to identify the nationality of the aircraft.


It is a very small flag next to the id numbers, something most people won't notice.

[freeby4me]

The aircraft also has required identification numbers and a U.S. flag to identify the nationality of the aircraft.


It is a very small flag next to the id numbers, something most people won't notice.

And no one puts together that its replaced right before he's going over to the middle east? Nothing like a nice big target to give them to shoot at right, but who really cares about that.
Nope nope, whats more important is to question his patriotism over something like this......

[mesue]

That was my first thought too, that it might be because he was going to be in an area where people are shooting at aircraft and that it would be much more likely to get shot at if it had a large American Flag on it.

But then I have not done any research on what the suggestion for such things are from the state department, since I don't own a plane. LOL

[dor1969]

Then what about Air Force One? Isn't that plane flown to the middle east without the flag being removed?

[heartlvrs]

nope! Its clearly known he has NO allegiance to America! And then theres always his "mistake" on the number of states...ie islamic states!! I am telling you, he has his own hidden agenda and it does NOT bode well for we Americans!

[heartlvrs]

Then what about Air Force One? Isn't that plane flown to the middle east without the flag being removed?

yup

[Jolie Rouge]

So ... he wants to represent the United States but not be associated with the symbols of the same ? hhhmmmm ....


That was my first thought too, that it might be because he was going to be in an area where people are shooting at aircraft and that it would be much more likely to get shot at if it had a large American Flag on it.

But then I have not done any research on what the suggestion for such things are from the state department, since I don't own a plane. LOL

While that is a valid point .. the "replacements" make it moot ...


And the plane that once had an American flag on its tail now sports the Obama 'O'. Obama's 'O' symbol is red, white and blue.

The airplane boasts Obama's anthem, "Change We Can Believe In" and the candidate’s website address.

So it isn't exactly an "unmarked" or "undercover" change ....

Anybody able to post the graphics from the OA ?

[Jolie Rouge]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70236


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a81/kos102/2008/Obama/plane-2.jpg
Obama's Campaign plane prior to "make over"


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/misc/planeonetwo.jpg
The U.S. flag no longer appears on the tail of the plane that will be used by presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama (Courtesy Chicago Sun-Times)

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/misc/planetwotwo.jpg
The plane that Sen. Barack Obama will use on his campaign features his slogan and his Web address



Both Fox News and the Chicago Sun-Times posted pictures of the Obama campaign's redressed airplane, which does not have an American flag or any other U.S. national symbols on the section that sports the airplane door from which Obama and his team will enter and exit.

In other words - providing a background for photo ops ...

http://embeds.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/img_3375.jpg

http://embeds.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/img_3380.jpg

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/07/20/obamas-757-is-back-in-service/

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/07/obama-press-plane-poised-to-de.html

[Jolie Rouge]

Am I the only one who thinks it is odd for him to be campaigning overseas ? I thought it was odd when he and Hillary both campainged in Guam & Purteo Rico


Obama meets Obamamania in Europe eager for change
By MATT MOORE, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 4 minutes ago

BERLIN - Barack Obama comes face to face this week with a constituency truly eager for change : Europeans.

Obama can expect an enthusiastic welcome when he speaks at one of Berlin's most famous landmarks, the Victory Column, on Thursday — the first of three stops in Europe, where polls show him as people's overwhelming favorite in the U.S. election.

Obama's youth, eloquence and energy have turned heads across the Atlantic, as has his call for change.

For Europeans, America offers two faces: one of cynicism, big business and bullying aggression, another of freedom, fairness and nothing-is-impossible dynamism.

If Bush was seen as embodying that first America, Obama is viewed as fitting the second role — one that Europe has historically loved, respected and relied on.

On top of that comes his charisma. The German news magazine Der Spiegel splashed the headline "Germany meets the superstar" over a photo of Obama on its cover this week.

"Americans need a change, and what's good for America is good for the whole world," said Maike Smerling, a physician who was born and raised in the former East Germany.

Juergen Trittin, a leading lawmaker with Germany's opposition Greens, pinpointed the contrast between Obama's tour and Bush's much-protested visits over the years.

"We should be glad that an American is coming who people don't have to demonstrate against," Trittin said on N24 television. "The rest of Europe is jealous that Barack Obama is speaking here in Berlin."

Obama, who will continue to France and Britain after his Berlin stop, strikes a chord with European admirers of the American ideal that all should have equal chances of success.

"He's different from other politicians. He represents minorities and he's down to earth and smart," said Ioannis Ioannidis, a 27-year-old salesman in Stockholm, Sweden. "He comes from nowhere. He wasn't born into it, and it's got nothing to do with what family he's from."

But beyond that, Obama also is hitting the right notes with Europeans on issues that matter to them. Thursday's Berlin stop offers him a chance to reinforce that impression in a city where John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton all made famous speeches.

In a speech last week on foreign policy, Obama vowed to fight global warming, stress diplomacy in dealing with Iran and produce a clear exit strategy for Iraq — all issues on which Bush's differing approaches angered many Europeans.

Evoking a time when Europe looked to America with gratitude, Obama called for a 21st century Marshall Plan to alleviate world misery because "that can be our best investment in increasing the common security of the entire world."

Polls in the countries being visited by Obama make the presumptive Democratic nominee Europe's overwhelming favorite over his Republican rival, John McCain.

Some experts have a simple explanation for Europe's Obamamania. Josef Braml, an America expert with the German Council on Foreign Relations, put it bluntly: "He's not Bush."

But Europe's excitement over Obama appears to go deeper than just relief over the prospect of a break from the acrimonious Bush years.

For Europeans, perhaps, it isn't just that Obama is not Bush but that he has come to be seen as the "anti-Bush" — a figure who represents such a startling contrast to the outgoing president that there is a sense the Washington power structure might be purged of much that Europeans see as wrong with American leadership.

Obama "projects the vision of a better America," said Georg Schild, an expert on German-American relations at the University of Tuebingen.

Europeans seem to feel the U.S. is on the brink of a fundamental change and see Obama as the protagonist of that transformation.

Such is the sense of the importance of the American election that France now has a French Committee to Support Barack Obama. Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe, fashion designer Sonia Rykiel and philosopher Bernard Henri-Levy are in its ranks, as are ordinary French citizens.

"These elections have repercussions on the whole world," said the committee's president, Samuel Slovit. "What happens in the United States will affect us here. It's the result of political globalization."

It's difficult to gauge how race is playing out in European attitudes toward Obama, who has been anointed by one German newspaper as "Der Schwarze JFK" — the black JFK.

But the "feel-good" factor that many pundits have identified among educated white Americans in their support for Obama may at least in part be behind Europeans' eagerness to embrace a black U.S. presidential candidate.

Despite large minority populations across the continent, only a sprinkling of nonwhites even hold seats in Europe's parliaments — forget seriously vying to be a national leader.

"It's a vicarious thrill," said Reginald Dale, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies' Europe Program. "After they've switched off their TV screens they're not going to go out and find a black candidate to put forward to lead their own country."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/ap_on_re_eu/obama_s_european_moment;_ylt=Ah0i_YTGBloPrwkc5_gWJ LSs0NUE

[janelle]

I thought O stood for Oprah.

He won't wear the flag and now this. Makes one wonder if he is ashamed of the flag thus the USA.

But the media loves him so he will win. Change for change sake. What a concept.

[dianepost]

Am I the only one who thinks it is odd for him to be campaigning overseas ? I thought it was odd when he and Hillary both campainged in Guam & Purteo Rico


Obama meets Obamamania in Europe eager for change
By MATT MOORE, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 4 minutes ago

BERLIN - Barack Obama comes face to face this week with a constituency truly eager for change : Europeans.

Obama can expect an enthusiastic welcome when he speaks at one of Berlin's most famous landmarks, the Victory Column, on Thursday — the first of three stops in Europe, where polls show him as people's overwhelming favorite in the U.S. election.

Obama's youth, eloquence and energy have turned heads across the Atlantic, as has his call for change.

For Europeans, America offers two faces: one of cynicism, big business and bullying aggression, another of freedom, fairness and nothing-is-impossible dynamism.

If Bush was seen as embodying that first America, Obama is viewed as fitting the second role — one that Europe has historically loved, respected and relied on.

On top of that comes his charisma. The German news magazine Der Spiegel splashed the headline "Germany meets the superstar" over a photo of Obama on its cover this week.

"Americans need a change, and what's good for America is good for the whole world," said Maike Smerling, a physician who was born and raised in the former East Germany.

Juergen Trittin, a leading lawmaker with Germany's opposition Greens, pinpointed the contrast between Obama's tour and Bush's much-protested visits over the years.

"We should be glad that an American is coming who people don't have to demonstrate against," Trittin said on N24 television. "The rest of Europe is jealous that Barack Obama is speaking here in Berlin."

Obama, who will continue to France and Britain after his Berlin stop, strikes a chord with European admirers of the American ideal that all should have equal chances of success.

"He's different from other politicians. He represents minorities and he's down to earth and smart," said Ioannis Ioannidis, a 27-year-old salesman in Stockholm, Sweden. "He comes from nowhere. He wasn't born into it, and it's got nothing to do with what family he's from."

But beyond that, Obama also is hitting the right notes with Europeans on issues that matter to them. Thursday's Berlin stop offers him a chance to reinforce that impression in a city where John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton all made famous speeches.

In a speech last week on foreign policy, Obama vowed to fight global warming, stress diplomacy in dealing with Iran and produce a clear exit strategy for Iraq — all issues on which Bush's differing approaches angered many Europeans.

Evoking a time when Europe looked to America with gratitude, Obama called for a 21st century Marshall Plan to alleviate world misery because "that can be our best investment in increasing the common security of the entire world."

Polls in the countries being visited by Obama make the presumptive Democratic nominee Europe's overwhelming favorite over his Republican rival, John McCain.

Some experts have a simple explanation for Europe's Obamamania. Josef Braml, an America expert with the German Council on Foreign Relations, put it bluntly: "He's not Bush."

But Europe's excitement over Obama appears to go deeper than just relief over the prospect of a break from the acrimonious Bush years.

For Europeans, perhaps, it isn't just that Obama is not Bush but that he has come to be seen as the "anti-Bush" — a figure who represents such a startling contrast to the outgoing president that there is a sense the Washington power structure might be purged of much that Europeans see as wrong with American leadership.

Obama "projects the vision of a better America," said Georg Schild, an expert on German-American relations at the University of Tuebingen.

Europeans seem to feel the U.S. is on the brink of a fundamental change and see Obama as the protagonist of that transformation.

Such is the sense of the importance of the American election that France now has a French Committee to Support Barack Obama. Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe, fashion designer Sonia Rykiel and philosopher Bernard Henri-Levy are in its ranks, as are ordinary French citizens.

"These elections have repercussions on the whole world," said the committee's president, Samuel Slovit. "What happens in the United States will affect us here. It's the result of political globalization."

It's difficult to gauge how race is playing out in European attitudes toward Obama, who has been anointed by one German newspaper as "Der Schwarze JFK" — the black JFK.

But the "feel-good" factor that many pundits have identified among educated white Americans in their support for Obama may at least in part be behind Europeans' eagerness to embrace a black U.S. presidential candidate.

Despite large minority populations across the continent, only a sprinkling of nonwhites even hold seats in Europe's parliaments — forget seriously vying to be a national leader.

"It's a vicarious thrill," said Reginald Dale, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies' Europe Program. "After they've switched off their TV screens they're not going to go out and find a black candidate to put forward to lead their own country."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/ap_on_re_eu/obama_s_european_moment;_ylt=Ah0i_YTGBloPrwkc5_gWJ LSs0NUE

What wonderful pictures, thanks for posting these, and the link

[janelle]

He isn't the first serious presidential candidate to go to other countries while campaigning. The reactions don't mean much from the people. The leaders know to be cordial IF the person becomes president, just in case, so the media hyping it up is just the media doing it's regular thing with Obama.

[mesue]

Well McCain made a big deal out of Obama not making a trip to Iraq, and Obama said he had plans to go to Iraq, whether you like Bush or not, he is not very loved overseas, so getting a lot of love from the people overseas is not hurting Obama's campaign.

I agree with Janelle (shocking isn't is, LOL) I think Obama will be our next President, unless McCain has some heavy duty hidden dirt he is going to tell us about near the end of the campaign.

I also agree the media seems to love him, the media has way too much power in this country, they should have to give equal time to all candidates.

I'm not voting for him, I am voting for Nader.

[janelle]

Seems the American public is not for Obama or McCain. Not much of a selection this time around.

[PrincessArky]

Seems the American public is not for Obama or McCain. Not much of a selection this time around.

yep thats it in a nut shell..........I wonder if some will change their minds about who to vote for when the vps are picked

[hblueeyes]

I just wonder what the symbol means. I get the O but the colors, that white thing in the middle (is it a zit?), and thew red curved stripes. I wonder if it has Muslim, ant-american, ant-white, pro black symbolism. Just wondering.


Not much of a selection this time around.

When is there ever?

Vote for the indepndant or another party not democrat or republican. We may be pleasantly surprised.

me

[janelle]

I agree with Janelle (shocking isn't is, LOL) I think Obama will be our next President, unless McCain has some heavy duty hidden dirt he is going to tell us about near the end of the campaign.

:faint

[Jolie Rouge]

I agree with Janelle (shocking isn't is, LOL) I think Obama will be our next President, unless McCain has some heavy duty hidden dirt he is going to tell us about near the end of the campaign.


Many historians see little chance for McCain David Paul Kuhn
Sun Jun 15, 8:05 AM ET

One week into the general election, the polls show a dead heat. But many presidential scholars doubt that John McCain stands much of a chance, if any.

Historians belonging to both parties offered a litany of historical comparisons that give little hope to the Republican. Several saw Barack Obama’s prospects as the most promising for a Democrat since Roosevelt trounced Hoover in 1932. “This should be an overwhelming Democratic victory,” said Allan Lichtman, an American University presidential historian who ran in a Maryland Democratic senatorial primary in 2006. Lichtman, whose forecasting model has correctly predicted the last six presidential popular vote winners, predicts that this year, “Republicans face what have always been insurmountable historical odds.” His system gives McCain a score on par with Jimmy Carter’s in 1980.

“McCain shouldn’t win it,” said presidential historian Joan Hoff, a professor at Montana State University and former president of the Center for the Study of the Presidency. She compared McCain’s prospects to those of Hubert Humphrey, whose 1968 loss to Richard Nixon resulted in large part from the unpopularity of sitting Democratic president Lyndon Johnson.

“It is one of the worst political environments for the party in power since World War II,” added Alan Abramowitz, a professor of public opinion and the presidency at Emory University. His forecasting model — which factors in gross domestic product, whether a party has completed two terms in the White House and net presidential approval rating — gives McCain about the same odds as Adlai Stevenson in 1952 and Carter in 1980 — both of whom were handily defeated in elections that returned the presidency to the previously out-of-power party. “It would be a pretty stunning upset if McCain won,” Abramowitz said.

What’s more, Republicans have held the presidency for all but 12 years since the South became solidly Republican in the realignment of 1968 — which is among the longest runs with one party dominating in American history. “These things go in cycles,” said presidential historian Robert Dallek, a professor at the University of California at Los Angeles. “The public gets tired of one approach to politics. There is always a measure of optimism in this country, so they turn to the other party.”

That desire for change also tends to manifest itself at the end of a president’s second term. Only twice in the 20th century has a candidate from the same party as a two-term president won the presidency, most recently in 1988, when George H.W. Bush replaced the term-limited Ronald Reagan, who was about twice as popular in the last year of his presidency as President George W. Bush is now.

But the biggest obstacle in McCain’s path may be running in the same party as the most unpopular president America has had since at least the advent of modern polling. Only Harry Truman and Nixon — both of whom were dogged by unpopular wars abroad and political scandals at home — have been nearly as unpopular in their last year in office, and both men’s parties lost the presidency in the following election.

Though the Democratic-controlled Congress is nearly as unpopular as the president, Lichtman says the Democrats’ 2006 midterm wins resemble the midterm congressional gains of the out-party in 1966 and 1974, which both preceded a retaking of the White House two years later.

One of the few bright spots historians noted is that the public generally does not view McCain as a traditional Republican. And, as Republicans frequently point out, McCain is not an incumbent. “Open-seat elections are somewhat different, so the referendum aspect is somewhat muted,” said James Campbell, a professor at the State University of New York at Buffalo who specializes in campaigns and elections.

“McCain would be in much better shape if Bush’s approval rating were at 45 to 50 percent,” Campbell continued. “But the history is that in-party candidates are not penalized or rewarded to the same degree as incumbents.”

Campbell still casts McCain as the underdog. But he said McCain might have more appeal to moderates than Obama if the electorate decides McCain is “center right” while Obama is “far left.” Democrats have been repeatedly undone when their nominee was viewed as too liberal, and even as polls show a rise in the number of self-identified Democrats, there has been no corresponding increase in the number of self-identified liberals.

Campbell also notes that McCain may benefit from the Democratic divisions that were on display in the primary, as Republicans did in 1968, when Democratic divisions over the war in Vietnam dogged Humphrey and helped hand Nixon victory.

Still, many historians remain extremely skeptical about McCain’s prospects. “I can’t think of an upset where the underdog faced quite the odds that McCain faces in this election,” said Sidney Milkis, a professor of presidential politics at the University of Virginia. Even "Truman didn’t face as difficult a political context as McCain.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...C1xduLAh5Aw_IE


I would be remiss not to mention Fightin’ Jacksonian Colonel Obama’s rhetorical venture to the armaments cabinet. And I wouldn’t want to be remiss. (Not really sure what “remiss” means, now that I think about it, but I think it’s bad.)

Here’s what he said: http://thepage.time.com/obama-pool-r...ia-fundraiser/


He warned that the general election campaign could get ugly. “They’re going to try to scare people. They’re going to try to say that ‘that Obama is a scary guy,’” he said.

A donor yelled out a deep accented “Don’t give in!”

“I won’t but that sounded pretty scary. You’re a tough guy,” Obama said.

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said. “Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”


Okay, three things. No, make that four.

I. If I were a Uber-Liberal Democrat I would squeal in fright that Obama was advocating violence against his political opponents and ushering in a police state. I am, instead, a rational adult capable of assessing context, so I know it was just meaningless rhetoric.

II. Obama was infamously quoted as wanting to roll back concealed carry laws. Apparently he sees some utility in them after all, at least when you’re under knife attack.

III. The point of that speech in The Untouchables he’s citing is a very, very, very interesting one. It was from an old Irish cop asserting that to beat Al Capone, Elliot Ness would have to bend the rules, and color outside the lines a bit – because Capone was an enemy who would use your own rules against you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0RLyxP13o

I’ve always thought that speech applied very well to the war on terror. I would expect Obama to disagree with me there–but it’s interesting that he does seem to think that “the Chicago Way” applies to domestic politics. I suppose a pupil of Tony Rezko’s would have to think like that.

It makes sense, if you think Republicans are the real enemy, and that the terrorists are just a distraction from the progressive agenda.

IV. The essence of Malone’s speech in The Untouchables is a negation of the doctrine of proportionality. It’s not an eye for an eye, to which there is a kind of symmetric justice. It’s two eyes for an eye. The idea being that the disproportionate cost incurred will deter mobsters like Capone from attacking cops and breaking the law.

There’s something to that idea.

Does Obama understand this as it applies to international politics, or is it just a figure of speech? I suspect that this was a telling slip of the tongue. Intuitively, Obama understands along with the rest of us that “massive retaliation” is a winning strategy and that our national defense should be geared to dispensing the unthinkable to those who attempt the unthinkable toward us.

Therein lies our security. America is a bunch of hair-trigger badass gunslinging cowboys and you do not want to be on our bad side. That’s why we have those ten-megaton warheads riding in those silos in North Dakota and on those submarines deep down in the ocean somewhere. An attack on the United States or its interests will deliver catastrophic consequences. That’s the Chicago way. That’s what keeps us safe.

Intuitively, because that’s the metaphor he grabbed when he was on the spot, I think Obama understands this. But politically, he’s saying something else. Which is why Obama is, as Capone jeered at Ness later in that same film, “nothing but a lot of talk and a badge”. Will he do what it takes–whatever it takes–to keep America safe?

Can we afford to take that chance? What if he’s…remiss?


It’s a good thing Huckabee didn’t slip up and say anything like this, else the media would have jumped on his back and mauled him.

Oh wait…

If Obama wins in November, it’s because the media wills it. You can call me “master of the obvious,” if you’d like.

[janelle]

Well the sign is red, white, and blue but it could stand for any country. I get a feeling Obama is for universal everything. No American idenity. All is one kind of thing. The United Nations will love him when he has us answer to them.

Maybe the VPs will decide who gets in. If McCain chooses a good VP I might vote for the best VP.

[Jolie Rouge]

Well the sign is red, white, and blue but it could stand for any country. I get a feeling Obama is for universal everything. No American idenity. All is one kind of thing. The United Nations will love him when he has us answer to them.



I refer you to Tngirl's post http://www.bigbigforums.com/news-information/591280-i-love-obama-he-really-loves-world.html


I Love Obama! He Really Loves The World

S2433

Title: A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 12/7/2007) Cosponsors (27)
Related Bills: H.R.1302

Latest Major Action: 4/24/2008 Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under
General Orders. Calendar No. 718.

Senate Reports: 110-331


In other words, Obama wants to give our money to the UN in order to support the world.

[janelle]

And we are in debt by how many trillion? That would be nuttier than those people who borrowed on the extreme makeover house and then lost it.

Maybe we should be thinking of paying down our own debt before we are owned by other countries.

[Bahet]

What? No outrage over McCain's plane? *crickets* Oh yea, he's a Republican so it doesn't matter. At least Obama's uses the red, white, and blue. McCain's would be more appropriate if he was running for President of the University of Michigan.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/easyaim/2725383436/

[janelle]

"John McCain's plane has no American flag on it and never did."

That is the important sentence. No flag until he is president but he didn't REMOVE THE FLAG.

Also, Obama has had several occasions to wear a flag pin---why does he have a problem with the pin when almost all Americans have no problem wearing one. Also, having a flag displayed when he makes speeches.

I don't care for McCain either but he does not have a, "don't show me the flag problem". Obama is forgetting how patriotic most Americans are but he seems to want "All is one and one is all".

[Bahet]

Obama's plane was a former NorthWest airlines plane. It didn't have the flag on it until he put it on after buying it from NorthWest. So it would have been better if he just never even bothered to put the flag on it in the 1st place?

I really don't care if he wears a flag pin. After 9/11 everyone everywhere wore a flag pin all the time. Now hardly anyone does. Does that mean all those people who stopped wearing them are no longer patriotic? Oh I know I know, "But but they aren't running for President!" That's right. So what? I want a President who is a patriot not one who just pays lip service with a piece of aluminum on his $3000 suit while ignoring their constituents and what they voted for.

[PrincessArky]

Oh yea, he's a Republican so it doesn't matter.


sorry but didnt know what his plane looked like or Obama's until this post started.........guess to be honest I have other problems like making ends meet than what they are doing with their planes........to be honest I don't much care for either of them BUT I have drawn on my fathers values as a Veteran of WW2 and what I feel in my heart he would believe was the right choice.....and thats what I will vote in November.

[janelle]

Obama's plane was a former NorthWest airlines plane. It didn't have the flag on it until he put it on after buying it from NorthWest. So it would have been better if he just never even bothered to put the flag on it in the 1st place?

I really don't care if he wears a flag pin. After 9/11 everyone everywhere wore a flag pin all the time. Now hardly anyone does. Does that mean all those people who stopped wearing them are no longer patriotic? Oh I know I know, "But but they aren't running for President!" That's right. So what? I want a President who is a patriot not one who just pays lip service with a piece of aluminum on his $3000 suit while ignoring their constituents and what they voted for.

WOW, he put a flag on it, then removed it? WTH? Yes, if he really believes what he says then DO NOT PUT A FLAG ON IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. Guess he changed is mind.

No, I don't want a president who just gives lip service to being patriotic but I also don't want one who goes out of his way to show he ISN'T patriotic. When asked about those things he says it isn't important. He won't acknowledge the flag or show the flag. How is that to tee off veterans and others.

No vet will respect a person who does not respect the flag. We may be in a war he does not respect but what about all those other wars that allow him to be free and have the opportunity to run for president?

[Bahet]

1st, I'd rather a President respect the citizens than some symbol. 2nd, I think most vets will agree. I'm not speaking for all of them, but you shouldn't either.

[janelle]

I'm not speaking for them, just what I heard vets say. Just accepting what I hear from them.

I think it's fair to say most Americans are proud of our flag. We want a president who is the same way. It may be symbolic but he would be the first person running for head of state who won't acknowledge the flag. Kinda stupid IMO.

[Bahet]

I've listened to vets also. They want someone who will get them home alive. They don't give a damn if they wear a piece of plstic on their $3000 suit nearly as much as they care about being able to see their family again.

You've been reading too many email forwards. Where do you get that he won't honor the flag? Because he doesn't put a piece of plastic on his suit?

[cSoReNSoN]

I think there are far more pertinent issues in this country than whether an individual does or does not have a flag on his/her airplane.

[ahippiechic]

So is it ok that McCain's plane doesn't have a flag either? That means he is also unpatriotic right?