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klutzie56
04-14-2008, 09:21 AM
This has really been bothering me the situation in Texas. I certainly don't believe in sexual or physical abuse but I am wondering if they are doing the right thing by taking all the children away from their mothers and putting them in foster care. These kids must be so scared. It must be scary enough just being out in the world where everything is different. I hope they at least keep the children from one family together.

ahippiechic
04-14-2008, 09:29 AM
Taken from a CNN article about the story...

"The children are being housed in San Angelo's historic Fort Concho and at the nearby Wells Fargo pavilion. About 140 women from the ranch are also with the children, although they are not in state custody."

So the children aren't in foster care ATM.

klutzie56
04-14-2008, 09:32 AM
That makes me feel better. Yesterday Sis and I heard they had put them in foster care.

mosdata1
04-14-2008, 10:25 AM
I also saw that some mothers went too. I'm sure the moms that went are the ones who were basically 'prisoners' on the compound anyway. There are a lot of pedofiles there supposedly 'married' to many of these young teen girls. :mad:
I hoep they get some good counselling for all those involved.

freeplease
04-14-2008, 04:16 PM
It seems like all of the "mothers" were brainwashed into thinking all of these goings on were a good idea. I don't know how much stock I'd put in their maternal feelings towards the kids.

A young girl forced into marriage with a 50 year old man, forced to consumate the marriage in front (sometimes) of elders? Sounds like more porn than anything else.

I only hope these kids aren't damaged beyond repair.

tnfuhs
04-14-2008, 05:33 PM
I'm just glad it didn't happen in a tragic way, time will heal all wounds, but will be unforgettable for them.

buttrfli
04-14-2008, 06:43 PM
You have to remember that it was 140 adult women went voluntarily. I imagine that a LOT of the teen girls that were taken are also mothers, so I imagine (hope) that at least a majority of the kids have their mom with them.

Quaker_Parrots
04-14-2008, 07:02 PM
I am just glad it was done peacefully and we didnt have another "Waco"

Mary_Jo3
04-15-2008, 06:29 AM
What some people do in the name of God.

ldsmomof1
04-15-2008, 11:00 AM
I've read now they have forced some of the mothers to leave where they are keeping the kids. Some not even allowed to say goodbye. This seems like a huge mess! I feel so bad for those confused kids.

iluvmybaby
04-15-2008, 11:41 AM
On Good Morning America the mothers told America that they were tricked to return back to the ranch, ANY child over the age of 5 was taken against the mothers will:cry Here is a link to the video

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=7403582

They stole their children

klutzie56
04-15-2008, 11:45 AM
I have heard that all of the children have volunteer lawyers to act as an advocate. I don't believe that the children will get over it. Being taken from everything that you have ever known must be so frightening for these children. I just think of what it would have be like for my son to be taken away. He was such a shy child when he was little I think it would have scared him for life.

Unicornmom77
04-15-2008, 11:51 AM
How is this helping any of these kids????

I am just sick about it all, I cannot imagine going through all of this as a mother, and the suffering these kids are enduing, its just heart wrenching!

LuvBigRip
04-15-2008, 12:02 PM
These kids are being brainwashed from an early age not to talk to the outside world. The girls are being taught that their bodies are for sale at puberty and that is ok. The boys are excommunicated to keep more little girls for the child rapists. The women are accepting of this. These children are nothing more than pawns in some sick twisted old men's games all made "acceptable" under the banner of religious freedoms. In my mind this is no less sick than "honor killings" of Islam or catholic priests who rape alter boys.

jedmatters
04-15-2008, 12:19 PM
Here is the thing: we are not given every detail of what is happening.
We are only told what appears in the news... and that is editted.
The parents are going to say whatever it takes to make them look innocent, and the polic and CPS look like evil people.
CPS is going to do their job in protecting children. Yes, the children know nothing of the world as most of their mothers know nothing besides the sect laws they must follow.

If all details were given out, maybe it would make sense: but they can not do that, as it would tamper with witnesses and potential jurors later.

If even half of the stories are true: it is sad on all points.

But if a child is going to be forced to marry or forced to carry a child: then civil rights violations are being committed. And, whether the religion honors the civil rights or not: the children have them.

buttrfli
04-15-2008, 01:54 PM
How is this helping any of these kids????



Its helping them by taking them out of an abusive situation. It breaks my heart to know what these kids went through and now they will be going through something entirely foreign to them and although I know that is horrible in itself, I'd rather a child be scared than be abused.

They have to choose the lesser of two evils.

Bliss
04-15-2008, 02:16 PM
The authorities done the right thing in this case. No child should be forced into marring & bearing children. Hopefully they'll receive the care they need & realize the life they lead was not a life at all.

Those poor women & children are brainwashed beyond belief. They don't see any wrong in the life style they live. I saw on the news where they were talking with two women and all those women could say was, "We want our children." They are programed not to answer any questions.

janelle
04-15-2008, 02:35 PM
I feel sad for the women but what would you do if you had a neighbor woman who was abused and you got them out but the woman wanted to go home? Would you send the children home with her or try to rescue them?

We aren't hearing the other side and can't since it will go before a judge to decide what can be done to help the children who are having sex at puberty and getting pregnant.

Polygamy is against the law in TX so they could put all the men involved in jail. I think right now they just want to get the children out and help the pregnant teens.

flute
04-15-2008, 02:53 PM
So sick so sick :(

Njean31
04-15-2008, 02:56 PM
it's sad but necessary. these freaks really messed up these children. it's the lesser of two evils. they should castrate all the men, sale the land and everything else tangible and use the money for the children.

flute
04-15-2008, 03:14 PM
Yea why HAVEN'T the men been arrested yet???

candygirl
04-15-2008, 03:34 PM
These kids are being brainwashed from an early age not to talk to the outside world. The girls are being taught that their bodies are for sale at puberty and that is ok. The boys are excommunicated to keep more little girls for the child rapists. The women are accepting of this. These children are nothing more than pawns in some sick twisted old men's games all made "acceptable" under the banner of religious freedoms. In my mind this is no less sick than "honor killings" of Islam or catholic priests who rape alter boys.


I agree with you:five:

These children are better off away from that world,the mothers need to wake up ,if they truly care about their children.

dv8grl
04-15-2008, 03:52 PM
These kids are being brainwashed from an early age not to talk to the outside world. The girls are being taught that their bodies are for sale at puberty and that is ok. The boys are excommunicated to keep more little girls for the child rapists. The women are accepting of this. These children are nothing more than pawns in some sick twisted old men's games all made "acceptable" under the banner of religious freedoms. In my mind this is no less sick than "honor killings" of Islam or catholic priests who rape alter boys.

Abso-FRICKEN-lutely!

janelle
04-15-2008, 06:17 PM
Yea why HAVEN'T the men been arrested yet???

I think it's because the men own the property. It's like taking children out of the abusers home. Save the children first, take them out of the situation.

Also, the men might come back with guns and cause more trouble. Let them stay at the compound and not let them use the children as shields and create another Waco.