Who do you feel sorry for ?

[Jolie Rouge]

Who in this story do you feel sorry for - the eight year old definately ....

Sun Jan 13, 3:42 AM ET

FORT WORTH, Texas - A father sodomized his 18-year-old stepson to avenge the teenager's alleged rape of the man's 8-year-old daughter, police said.

The father, 32, turned himself into to authorities on Friday and was released from jail Saturday after posting a $17,500 bond. He faces a charge of aggravated sexual assault.

The stepson was arrested Jan. 2 and charged with suspicion of aggravated sexual assault. Police say the father caught him assaulting his daughter, and a subsequent examination at a hospital revealed the girl had been sodomized.

Sgt. Cheryl Johnson, supervisor of the Fort Worth sex crimes unit, said in a story posted Saturday on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram's Web site that people need to "allow the criminal justice system to work for them."

"This is a very unique case, but we have a criminal justice system in place, and no one can take the law into their own hands," Johnson said.

The Star-Telegram didn't identify the father or the stepson to protect the identity of the girl. Fort Worth police didn't immediately return phone and e-mail messages from The Associated Press.

When the stepson was arrested, the man warned his wife not to get the teenager out of jail. She posted bond for the teen's release. When he called home Jan. 3 after getting released, the father took the call and picked him up, police said.

Instead of taking the teenager home, the Arlington man drove to an abandoned house in Fort Worth, beat his stepson with a baseball bat and sodomized him with a metal tool, police said.

After the man left, the stepson found a pay phone and called police, who searched the abandoned home.

"We did find evidence at the scene to corroborate our victim's story," Johnson said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080113/ap_on_re_us/stepson_assault;_ylt=AgBtWnrBI.Q1Tk2ZW.gRVHNH2ocA

[dangerousfem]

wow... I don't agree with his methods.. but I completely understand his anger.. What I am wondering.. is this her 8 yr old dd too? or his from another marraige. I don't understand her bailing him out if it was her dd too... I guess she was in denial.

[dv8grl]

I only feel sorry for the dad & the girl. Screw the step-son, he got what he deserved, although he probably deserved more!

[cabby92]

The 8 year old and the dad. Not the step-son nor the mom. Where was her anger at the 18 year old?

[DBackFan]

I feel sorry for all 3 but ESPECIALLY the 18 yr old. First of all it was "alleged" not proven except by a man who did a worse crime himself.

If the 18 yr old actually did it I STILL feel sorry for him, it takes a very sick individual to perform such a hideous act.

Now before all of you start thinking I am crazy for these feelings I have CARED for children who have been raped and 2 of my own Sons were molested when they were young (2 and 3). At the time, YES I yelled, raged, and felt total anger but I was young. As I have matured I realize this is a sick world we live in but more importantly if we don't let our criminal justice system work we are in for big trouble, it will all be vigilante.

[Jolie Rouge]

I feel sorry for the Dad - his anger willl cost him his marriage and his freedom. Any bets that he will get a harsher treatment then the 18 year old ? At least he did something about the problem instead of sitting in denial ...

I feel sorry for the Mom, her choices may have contributed the the 18 year-olds "issues" and will most likely cost her her marriage.

I feel sorry for the 18 year old because he will not get the help he seems to need in jail ... prob be more twisted when he come out. The "revenge" meted out by the step-dad was -- excessive -- but it is hard not to sympathise with the Dad's anger. BUT - how STUPID was he to call this man for a ride home from jail after raping his 8 year old step-sister ... this man's child ?


The poor little girl in the middle of all this ... not only does she have the trauma of her own rape... but the "guilt by association" of the 18YO ... the punishment her father will have to take ... and the dissolution of the marriage. That is a lot of weight on a little child's shoulders.



DBackFan I feel sorry for all 3 but ESPECIALLY the 18 yr old. First of all it was "alleged" not proven except by a man who did a worse crime himself.

If the 18 yr old actually did it I STILL feel sorry for him, it takes a very sick individual to perform such a hideous act.

I am going to disagree with you on this .. he is old enough to know right from wrong ... and in no way, shape or form can anyone justify the rape of a child. He made a choice ... and now quite a few people will have to pay the price.

[Njean31]

i only feel sorry for the 8 year old. the rest of them are sick.

[DBackFan]

IT is still alleged, not proven


The stepson does not have an adult criminal record in Tarrant County. The 32-year-old man has previously pleaded guilty to burglary of a habitation and served at least two jail sentences for assault with bodily injury and marijuana possession, according to court records.

[freeby4me]

IT is still alleged, not proven

Come on.


Police say the father caught him assaulting his daughter, and a subsequent examination at a hospital revealed the girl had been sodomized

THAT to me is proof enough of why the father did what he did. The father walked in on the step son assaulting his daughter and tests PROVE that. PROVE IT.

Why feel sorry for a monster? He did it because he thought he could get away with it. Who knows how many more times he would have done it. Thousands if he could get away with it.

I think your feeling sorry's for ESPECIALLY the 18 year old is sick. The Especially Sorry's should be going to the 8 year old. She's going to need alot of help to get through everything, and everything is happening BECAUSE of the 18 year old.
NONE of this would have happened if he didnt do what he did.

[evrita]

Who in this story do you feel sorry for - the eight year old definately ....

Sun Jan 13, 3:42 AM ET

FORT WORTH, Texas - A father sodomized his 18-year-old stepson to avenge the teenager's alleged rape of the man's 8-year-old daughter, police said.

The father, 32, turned himself into to authorities on Friday and was released from jail Saturday after posting a $17,500 bond. He faces a charge of aggravated sexual assault.

The stepson was arrested Jan. 2 and charged with suspicion of aggravated sexual assault. Police say the father caught him assaulting his daughter, and a subsequent examination at a hospital revealed the girl had been sodomized.Sgt. Cheryl Johnson, supervisor of the Fort Worth sex crimes unit, said in a story posted Saturday on the Fort Worth Star-Telegram's Web site that people need to "allow the criminal justice system to work for them."

"This is a very unique case, but we have a criminal justice system in place, and no one can take the law into their own hands," Johnson said.

The Star-Telegram didn't identify the father or the stepson to protect the identity of the girl. Fort Worth police didn't immediately return phone and e-mail messages from The Associated Press.

When the stepson was arrested, the man warned his wife not to get the teenager out of jail. She posted bond for the teen's release. When he called home Jan. 3 after getting released, the father took the call and picked him up, police said.

Instead of taking the teenager home, the Arlington man drove to an abandoned house in Fort Worth, beat his stepson with a baseball bat and sodomized him with a metal tool, police said.

After the man left, the stepson found a pay phone and called police, who searched the abandoned home.

"We did find evidence at the scene to corroborate our victim's story," Johnson said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080113/ap_on_re_us/stepson_assault;_ylt=AgBtWnrBI.Q1Tk2ZW.gRVHNH2ocA

I know your saying allleged but it says right there he was caught I feel bad for the 8 y\o

[DBackFan]

Come on.



THAT to me is proof enough of why the father did what he did. The father walked in on the step son assaulting his daughter and tests PROVE that. PROVE IT.

Why feel sorry for a monster? He did it because he thought he could get away with it. Who knows how many more times he would have done it. Thousands if he could get away with it.

I think your feeling sorry's for ESPECIALLY the 18 year old is sick. The Especially Sorry's should be going to the 8 year old. She's going to need alot of help to get through everything, and everything is happening BECAUSE of the 18 year old.
NONE of this would have happened if he didnt do what he did.

Your gonna feel pretty awful saying what you did if they find the FATHER actually committed the sodomy on both of them. I am NOT saying that is what happened but its POSSIBLE. The only PROOF was that a sodomizing occured and DADS word that he walked in on them. I would love to talk to the boy.

[freeby4me]

Your gonna feel pretty awful saying what you did if they find the FATHER actually committed the sodomy on both of them. I am NOT saying that is what happened but its POSSIBLE. The only PROOF was that a sodomizing occured and DADS word that he walked in on them. I would love to talk to the boy.

Nope. Aint gonna feel sorry. Because thats not what happened. Bull shit.

Dontcha think the 18 year old would have told police that little snippet of a story and it would be put out with this story? Ayup Ima thinkin it woulda been.

Why would you "LOVE" to talk to that "boy"? Oh....poor poor me, I got more than what I deserved for SEXUALLY MOLESTING a poor innocent little girl, the dad got PISSED and taught my dumbass a lesson, oh poor poor me.

I dont think so.

at 18 years old, throw his ass in jail for what he did. Im just sorry that the father will get punished for what he did. I dont blame him at all.

[Jolie Rouge]

IT is still alleged, not proven

When they find someone standing over the body with a smoking gun, covered, in blood with a writen signed confession and 50 witnesses they are still required to use the "alleged" because that is how the system is set-up.

They guy who killed and coooked his girlfriend and invited his mom to dinner is still being refered in the media as "the suspect" and "the alleged killer canniable" :rolleyes:




Your gonna feel pretty awful saying what you did if they find the FATHER actually committed the sodomy on both of them. I am NOT saying that is what happened but its POSSIBLE. The only PROOF was that a sodomizing occured and DADS word that he walked in on them. I would love to talk to the boy.

This is really reaching for straws. You'd rather blame the father then allow the 18YO POS to take responsibilty for his actions and choices ???

[Jolie Rouge]

The guy who killed and cooked his girlfriend and invited his mom to dinner is still being refered in the media as "the suspect" and "the alleged killer canniable"

http://www.bigbigforums.com/news-information/568297-screams-fried-green-tomatoes.html

[wobblypops]

I only feel sorry for the dad & the girl. Screw the step-son, he got what he deserved, although he probably deserved more!


Well, I believe that's exactly what happened & do I feel sorry for this 18 year old MAN ruining a little girl's life. Nope, absolutely not.

[PrincessArky]

I feel sorry for the daughter what worries me now is I know the father will have to go to jail so who is going to have custody of the little girl.....the mother that bailed her son who raped the girl???

[iluvmybaby]

When they find someone standing over the body with a smoking gun, covered, in blood with a writen signed confession and 50 witnesses they are still required to use the "alleged" because that is how the system is set-up.

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Jolie, you are 100 percent right, until proven guilty in the court of law it is ALWAYS allegedly. You literally could find someone covered in blood with video tape of them doing it with 50 witnesses, until a judge actually sentences them as guilty, it is ALLEGED according to the US court systems

[iluvmybaby]

I am so miserable I have a sinus infection and my sinus's ache like a son of a gun, I have had a sinus headache since Thursday the 10th and my sinus just throb and ache. So far, I have just been taking it easy and taking benedryl. Does anyone know any at home treatments for sinuses? I am going to try to lay down in a few, it seems not to hurt as much when I am still, now can I have some cheese with my whine? Pun on words!

[evrita]

I am so miserable I have a sinus infection and my sinus's ache like a son of a gun, I have had a sinus headache since Thursday the 10th and my sinus just throb and ache. So far, I have just been taking it easy and taking benedryl. Does anyone know any at home treatments for sinuses? I am going to try to lay down in a few, it seems not to hurt as much when I am still, now can I have some cheese with my whine? Pun on words!


Sudafed works great and also you can buy it cheap it is called nasal spray but it is saline and it helps flush out the sinuses. Also dont wait too long you can run into trouble if the snot is really green you might want to think about doing to the dr and getting an antibiodic. I hope you feel better.

[squirt661]

I don't want to know how we went from sodomy to sinus infection? People who answered this post shared their ideas and thoughts honestly, but to have the topic changed because you had no input, I find totally rude. I feel for the father, and thank whoever, he did not kill that punk kid. Just my input.

[freeby4me]

I don't want to know how we went from sodomy to sinus infection? People who answered this post shared their ideas and thoughts honestly, but to have the topic changed because you had no input, I find totally rude. I feel for the father, and thank whoever, he did not kill that punk kid. Just my input.

She did have input though.

[squirt661]

You are correct LOL.

[Jolie Rouge]

LOL That happens a lot around here ... pay it no mind. Sometimes we dragg it back to the OT... sometimes the tangent is interesting as well.

[evrita]

I think she posted here by accident and I answered because I am a sinus suffer :)

[YankeeMary]

Well I have to agree with DBackFan here. I feel for all of those involved. I think it is a terrible terrible tragidy that a family is totally destroyed. I think it is an outrage that any of this occurred. I think people say the 18 year older knew better, well the Stepfather knew better also. What in the world did he think raping his stepson with a metal object was gonna do, unrape his daughter??? That is just horrible. The daughter needed his support not his turning around and doing yet another wrong. The mom is stuck in the middle, though her son "allegedly" did something so horrible, doesn't change the fact that it is her son and she still loves him. Being a mom, I have UNCONDITIONAL love for my children. If they grow up and do something that is so horrendous, I will still love them, I may be wrong but I would. The poor little girl NEEDS to be removed from the home and placed with someone that can help her heal and try to learn to live with not only her rape but the rape that her own father committed on her brother. I truly hope that all involved can get some help. I do not think what the father did was right and I think he is a sick sick individual. If he would have just beat the crap out of the kid, it would be different but for a male to rape another male because a little girl got raped just doesn't make sense. I keep thinking to sick wrongs don't make a right. I think it would be great if they found out the son didn't actually do it at all. I pray that the little girl is ok and that she is going to get some therapy to help her though all of this.

[MistyWolf]

I feel sorry for the 8 year old girl .. and that is it. The 18 year old and DH both should have known better. DH should have let the court system take care of DS .. makes you wonder why DS messed with DD to begin with .. maybe was he messed with as a kid? .. I mean his father had no problem sodomizing him to "punish" him!

[Bliss]

I'm sure the father done it to show the step-son how it felt to be raped. Most likely if the step-son goes to prison many men will show him the same treatment. They will get away with it.

I have sympathy for the little girl, she's the victim in all this mess.


ETA: What may have happened in the step-sons life up until now. Gives him no right to harm a child. Being molested, beat, rasied in a screwed up home doesn't fly with me. I don't see it as a reason to do unto others..It's just a sorry ass excuse to take the real blame off the person and place it else where.

[jackie227]

I understand the fathers anger. My grandaughter and a boy was molested by a man(monster).He is in prison in Alabama, and Ihope every day that one of his cell mates do to him what he did to those children.If that makes me sick, then so be it, I can live with my anting him to hurt like he hurt them. My grandaughter has many problems now over this, thank God for therapist who kow how to help them heal.He is suppose to be in there till 2018, but we all know how the system works, more than likely he will get out before then, and probably will still be the monster that he was when he went in.

[DBackFan]

Well I have to agree with DBackFan here. I feel for all of those involved. I think it is a terrible terrible tragidy that a family is totally destroyed. I think it is an outrage that any of this occurred. I think people say the 18 year older knew better, well the Stepfather knew better also. What in the world did he think raping his stepson with a metal object was gonna do, unrape his daughter??? That is just horrible. The daughter needed his support not his turning around and doing yet another wrong. The mom is stuck in the middle, though her son "allegedly" did something so horrible, doesn't change the fact that it is her son and she still loves him. Being a mom, I have UNCONDITIONAL love for my children. If they grow up and do something that is so horrendous, I will still love them, I may be wrong but I would. The poor little girl NEEDS to be removed from the home and placed with someone that can help her heal and try to learn to live with not only her rape but the rape that her own father committed on her brother. I truly hope that all involved can get some help. I do not think what the father did was right and I think he is a sick sick individual. If he would have just beat the crap out of the kid, it would be different but for a male to rape another male because a little girl got raped just doesn't make sense. I keep thinking to sick wrongs don't make a right. I think it would be great if they found out the son didn't actually do it at all. I pray that the little girl is ok and that she is going to get some therapy to help her though all of this.

well spoken Mary and thank you

[tigger4]

Yes, in theory they will get raped in prison. That is IF the other prisoners know what they are in for.

Do you know how many convicted child molesters have forged papers that say they are in for something other than molestation. My Godson's father is a convicted child molester. His papers say he is in for Burglary. His wife forged them for him.

[MistyWolf]

I'm sure the father done it to show the step-son how it felt to be raped. Most likely if the step-son goes to prison many men will show him the same treatment. They will get away with it.

I have sympathy for the little girl, she's the victim in all this mess.


ETA: What may have happened in the step-sons life up until now. Gives him no right to harm a child. Being molested, beat, rasied in a screwed up home doesn't fly with me. I don't see it as a reason to do unto others..It's just a sorry ass excuse to take the real blame off the person and place it else where.


I am sure the father did it to show the DS what it's like .. but that is still inexcuseable. It was inexcuseable for the DS to rape the DD, but the system should have taken care of that .. not the DH.

Like I said the only one I feel sorry for is the little girl.

[lizmolik]

I have to say I feel sorry for the 18 yr old boy and the girl...screw the dad, it was his own choice to take the law in his own hands, and now he will be punished for his actions...The 18 year old boy was wrong if he did the alleged rape on the little girl, but that didnt give any right to the father to do that to him, 2 wrongs don't make a right!

[Bubblescc]

[QUOTE=DBackFan;95773858]IT is still alleged, not proven


QUOTE]

wouldnt this also apply to the fathers crimes? Just asking. cause I might have missed something

I cant imagine what I would do if I walked in on my child being sodomized. When something happens to your child, I think part of your rational mind would be gone. I know mine would be.

I have no sympathy at all for the 18 year old, who cares....cause if he did do what the step father says, well then he brought it on himself.

I wish the father had handled things differently, for I fear what will happen to that poor little girl.

The step mom is worthless as well, cause if she had not bailed the son out it also would not have happened. Not that it justifies what the father did.

I feel terrible for that little girl, This is for whom I will pray for. Her life is forever messed up. and God only knows what will happen to her.

JMO

[MistyWolf]

I feel terrible for that little girl, This is for whom I will pray for. Her life is forever messed up. and God only knows what will happen to her.

JMO

Exactly!

[Jolie Rouge]

Yes, in theory they will get raped in prison. That is IF the other prisoners know what they are in for.

Do you know how many convicted child molesters have forged papers that say they are in for something other than molestation. My Godson's father is a convicted child molester. His papers say he is in for Burglary. His wife forged them for him.

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THAT is messed up ... the Corrections Officails can not look into that ? I would think his wife would then face charges as well.

[freeby4me]

??????

THAT is messed up ... the Corrections Officails can not look into that ? I would think his wife would then face charges as well.

I agree. If they do the crime, they need to face the punishment. ALL of the punishment.

[Bliss]

Do you know how many convicted child molesters have forged papers that say they are in for something other than molestation. My Godson's father is a convicted child molester. His papers say he is in for Burglary. His wife forged them for him.


Most likely the Godsons father told the other inmates a lie & didn't show his papers. It really doesn't matter whether the inmate "forged" his paper work, the correctional officers know the real facts. They will let other inmates know the scoop. A lot of them are placed into protective custody away from the general population to save there lives once they get caught lying.

Most child molesters or sex offenders will say they are in for embezzlement, robbery, burglary, & ect. They know sex offenders are scum in society & in prison.

[Bliss]

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THAT is messed up ... the Corrections Officails can not look into that ? I would think his wife would then face charges as well.

She only forged them to save his ass from other inmates. The corrections officials know why he's there... And, inmates will have their family and friends search department of corrections websites and tell them the real reason why someone is in prison. Those scum bags can lie all the want, eventually they get caught. They pay dearly...

[PrincessArky]

Yes, in theory they will get raped in prison. That is IF the other prisoners know what they are in for.

Do you know how many convicted child molesters have forged papers that say they are in for something other than molestation. My Godson's father is a convicted child molester. His papers say he is in for Burglary. His wife forged them for him.

sorry but if that mother had half a brain she would get away from that child molesting hubby of hers forever

[freeby4me]

sorry but if that mother had half a brain she would get away from that child molesting hubby of hers forever

I dont think she has half a brain. She bailed the molesting son out of jail and then was no where to be found so the step-dad had to go get him. Well, he decided to go get him.

[PrincessArky]

I dont think she has half a brain. She bailed the molesting son out of jail and then was no where to be found so the step-dad had to go get him. Well, he decided to go get him.

Oh I already wrote that mom off as a piece of waste for getting him out was talking about the couple that tigger4 posted about

[freeby4me]

Oh I already wrote that mom off as a piece of waste for getting him out was talking about the couple that tigger4 posted about

Ohh yea I guess it takes all kinds huh. To do what I have no clue.

[Memedav]

My heart goes out to this little girl. Without going into horrid detail, I can say that speaking from personal experience she will forever be haunted by this. It's a horrible way to learn about real life. A child should remain innocent and anyone who takes that away from this is hell-bound in my book......and rightfully so.

As for the Mom, yes I can understand unconditional love, if this were my son of course I would still love him. However, what about protecting the innocent little girl? Does anyone know if this was her child also? If she cared at all about her son she should have let him sit in out in jail and get some counseling and face his judgement.........though I honestly don't think a pedophile can be reformed. JMO

For the Dad, I can totally see where he is coming from, wanting to inflict the same pain his daughter went through, back onto the stepson. But it's really sick and twisted to be able to do something like that to another human being. I don't condone his actions but am figuring that he was just totally enraged at the wife and stepson and very unstable at the moment.

As someone pointed out earlier, if the stepson is "alleged" then presumably so is the father. Though it does read as though the father walked right in and caught the son "in the act."

I was molested by a family member when I was 5 years old and never even told anyone because honestly I was just too scared and didn't really have the words to even vocalize it, much less the ability to comprehend it. It went on for several years and I remember many nights sneaking back downstairs and going to sleep in my parents living room underneath the couch because that's where I felt safest and away from that person. I don't give the 18 year old any slack at all, at that age you know right from wrong. I would never ever touch a child or do something like that to them.

It's hard to tell what this little girl has been through because chances are it's been ongoing for quite some time. What are the odds that the father caught him the very first time that something inappropriate happened?

[MsLynn]

i feel sorry for everyone in this case, but if the 18 year old got what he deserved, then i reckon the father deserves the same thing.

you can't just be pissed off that what someone did was wrong, and then do basically the same thing yourself. NOW IF HE'D DONE IT AT THE TIME HE CAUGHT THEM. or just beat him to deah or shot him... oh hell yeah, i'd have totally understood and he'd probably get it justified as "a crime of passion".

since the mother was conviently not around to pick him up - i'm wondering how she even bonded him out without being there, here you have to be there so all parties invovled can sign the papers... makes me wonder if this "revenge" wasn planned more than everyone knows about.


i can guarantee if i walked in on ANYONE hurting one of my kids, they'd never leave that room alive!!!!!!

[ssgjeg]

:yeah

Memedav, I know exactly where you're coming from and agree totally.

[tigger4]

The Godson's father is in a prison that was originally built to house sex offenders. Part of the prison is still just for that so I am assuming he is in that part. I have never visited him. I have seen his forged papers though since she showed them to me. I reported her and him to the prison officials and was told there was nothing they could do about it.

The mother won't divorce the father. He is innocent. Even though he plead guilty to two charges of molesting his neice. He is up on appeal and she honestly thinks that they are all going to live together as one big happy family. Of course she has taken her son around this man even though he is not allowed to have contact with children. And until he went to prison he was living at his mom's where the child he molested lives.

Gotta love our state CPS system. Why would you give the child who has been molested back to the family knowing that they will expose her to her molester.

Of course now Godson has been taken away by CPS because his mom is abusing him. So, where do they place him? With the same Grandmother who has the molested child. And where is mom staying? With the Grandmother. I tried to tell CPS, but they wouldn't listen. But, then again that is a whole different thread. :getyou

[PrincessArky]

The Godson's father is in a prison that was originally built to house sex offenders. Part of the prison is still just for that so I am assuming he is in that part. I have never visited him. I have seen his forged papers though since she showed them to me. I reported her and him to the prison officials and was told there was nothing they could do about it.

The mother won't divorce the father. He is innocent. Even though he plead guilty to two charges of molesting his neice. He is up on appeal and she honestly thinks that they are all going to live together as one big happy family. Of course she has taken her son around this man even though he is not allowed to have contact with children. And until he went to prison he was living at his mom's where the child he molested lives.

Gotta love our state CPS system. Why would you give the child who has been molested back to the family knowing that they will expose her to her molester.

Of course now Godson has been taken away by CPS because his mom is abusing him. So, where do they place him? With the same Grandmother who has the molested child. And where is mom staying? With the Grandmother. I tried to tell CPS, but they wouldn't listen. But, then again that is a whole different thread. :getyou

OMG sounds like the system is just failing child after child :(

[tigger4]

It is. I have fought with CPS to get him taken away. She beats him, doesn't clothe him properly, feeds him cold hot dogs and oatmeal for dinner every night, lets drug addicts and drunks babysit him, and then she left him with me on November 22nd and I had him almost every day and night until this Monday. It is sad.

[PrincessArky]

It is. I have fought with CPS to get him taken away. She beats him, doesn't clothe him properly, feeds him cold hot dogs and oatmeal for dinner every night, lets drug addicts and drunks babysit him, and then she left him with me on November 22nd and I had him almost every day and night until this Monday. It is sad.

ah poor little guy. I am just so sick of hearing so many tragic stories of children being mistreated :( I am so glad that he is at least able to spend some happy times with someone like you who truly cares

[wobblypops]

Yet CPS doesn't hesitate going after people who really shouldn't be in their systems to begin with. This makes me so very angry.

[tigger4]

Tell me about it. I have seen CPS in my state drag their feet about taking care of kids, and then I have seen them hound people who are doing nothing wrong.